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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6500 on: June 24, 2019, 12:50:16 pm »
Had four screw piles installed yesterday for my back deck reno.  Hit rock in three of the four piles so had to make adjustments to their original positions.  That sucks because it took me a while to work out the post placements so that the deck posts don't block windows and ingress/egress to the walkout basement entrance.  Took almost 6 hours to install 4 screw piles.   :P

After reading this story , I think concrete posts are the way to go
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/safety-put-in-jeopardy-by-some-companies-shoring-up-shaky-homes-industry-complaint-alleges-1.5184859

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6501 on: June 24, 2019, 12:57:13 pm »
Had four screw piles installed yesterday for my back deck reno.  Hit rock in three of the four piles so had to make adjustments to their original positions.  That sucks because it took me a while to work out the post placements so that the deck posts don't block windows and ingress/egress to the walkout basement entrance.  Took almost 6 hours to install 4 screw piles.   :P

After reading this story , I think concrete posts are the way to go
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/safety-put-in-jeopardy-by-some-companies-shoring-up-shaky-homes-industry-complaint-alleges-1.5184859

Yeah, I think screw piles are okay for decks, or even sun rooms. 

But I would never ever put a residence on them.  No Way. 

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6503 on: June 24, 2019, 12:59:23 pm »
Do it right, no issues. Cut corners, and man do things pile up in a hurry.

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6504 on: June 24, 2019, 01:13:09 pm »

Reminds me of this story.
Rialton
https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/06/house-hunters-true-story-of-being-on-the-show.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab


I'm only really surprised by how little they get paid. $1500 flat fee? To hell with that!

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6505 on: June 24, 2019, 01:14:58 pm »
Do it right, no issues. Cut corners, and man do things pile up in a hurry.

Pun intended?  ;D

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6506 on: June 24, 2019, 01:23:11 pm »
https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/06/house-hunters-true-story-of-being-on-the-show.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

This does not surprise me in the least.  I get the feeling it's a similar thing for Escape to the Country (a show I really enjoy just to see the properties).  Sometimes, the people seem a bit wooden, or even trying the keep a straight face, and I wonder if that's the reason.

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6507 on: June 24, 2019, 01:24:27 pm »
Do it right, no issues. Cut corners, and man do things pile up in a hurry.

Pun intended?  ;D



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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6508 on: June 24, 2019, 02:02:29 pm »

Reminds me of this story.
Rialton
https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/06/house-hunters-true-story-of-being-on-the-show.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab


I'm only really surprised by how little they get paid. $1500 flat fee? To hell with that!

for 5  (FIVE!!!) days of shooting.

f- that sh1t. 



totally not DIY, but i have attic guys coming this friday to add more insulation.    whoever did the master bathroom reno f-ed up the insulation over master.  it's freezing in winter.

hope it helps with hot temp during summer too.

going to cost me 1500.  :(
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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6509 on: June 24, 2019, 02:53:48 pm »

Reminds me of this story.
Rialton
https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/06/house-hunters-true-story-of-being-on-the-show.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab


I'm only really surprised by how little they get paid. $1500 flat fee? To hell with that!
I was talking with the guys from water furnace, the mechanical used their HPs in a school, they were out doing start up
They were talking about doing a show with Mike Holmes, they had to supply and install a system for free and they said someone on the show was a real dick  :rofl2:

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6510 on: June 25, 2019, 01:39:24 pm »
Had four screw piles installed yesterday for my back deck reno.  Hit rock in three of the four piles so had to make adjustments to their original positions.  That sucks because it took me a while to work out the post placements so that the deck posts don't block windows and ingress/egress to the walkout basement entrance.  Took almost 6 hours to install 4 screw piles.   :P

After reading this story , I think concrete posts are the way to go
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/safety-put-in-jeopardy-by-some-companies-shoring-up-shaky-homes-industry-complaint-alleges-1.5184859

Yeah, I think screw piles are okay for decks, or even sun rooms. 

But I would never ever put a residence on them.  No Way.

Yeah, that's just crazy!  ::)  Screwpiles provide no lateral stability.  A combination of diagonal braces, hurricane ties, and the deck boards themselves provides the lateral stability, for my deck anyways.  I would only use concrete posts for new construction.  I'd never have gotten concrete posts in the area that i wanted without some major excavation and a huge mess.

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6511 on: June 25, 2019, 02:25:25 pm »
^^ Concrete posts or concrete footings?

I don’t see how there’d be a lateral stability problem with a screw pile vs a concrete footing. They’re both sunk down into the earth. I’m sure it depends on soil composition and stuff, but if properly engineered there should be no problem.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were certain soil conditions where screw piles were actually preferable over a concrete footing/foundation, even for a house.

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6512 on: June 25, 2019, 02:45:49 pm »
^^ Concrete posts or concrete footings?

I don’t see how there’d be a lateral stability problem with a screw pile vs a concrete footing. They’re both sunk down into the earth. I’m sure it depends on soil composition and stuff, but if properly engineered there should be no problem.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were certain soil conditions where screw piles were actually preferable over a concrete footing/foundation, even for a house.
I can not think any conditions that screw piles would be preferred

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6513 on: June 25, 2019, 02:50:15 pm »
^^ I dunno. Somewhere with a really high water table? Or maybe up north where it’s semi-muskeg?

Houses get built on piles all the time. Not sure why screwing it in would be any worse than pounding it in?

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6514 on: June 26, 2019, 11:15:15 am »
^^ Concrete posts or concrete footings?

I don’t see how there’d be a lateral stability problem with a screw pile vs a concrete footing. They’re both sunk down into the earth. I’m sure it depends on soil composition and stuff, but if properly engineered there should be no problem.

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were certain soil conditions where screw piles were actually preferable over a concrete footing/foundation, even for a house.

Neither one provide any lateral stability.  They footings only provide a stable base to rest on and the post just sit on top.  The only reason the posts are bolted to the bracket is so that they don't get knocked out of position if they get hit, or run into with a mower,
or something.  Neither one provide any lateral (side-to-side) stability.  Below is a picture of one of the new posts on the screwpile and next to the old concrete piling.  There is nothing there to prevent lateral movement for the posts.  When i went to remove the old post from its concrete mount, after i removed the old support beam, i simply pushed it over and ripped out the nails holding it to the mounting bracket.  Same for the new ones mounted on the screw piles.  I had to use lots of temporary bracing until I got the joists and diagonal bracing in place. 

No problem setting anything on screw piles AFAIC as long as the lateral bracing is addressed. 

As far as applications are concerned, screw piles are far superior for avoiding frost heaving than concrete piles in my experience.  I know a contractor friend of mine installed screw piles for his deck and some fence posts almost 15 years ago and he has never had an instance of heaving since.  The freeze-thaw cycle has gotten a lot worse in the last several years and last year my deck heaved more than ever and was really noticeable.  Last winter the front rim joist of my deck looked to be elevated at least a few inches above the ledger board.
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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6515 on: June 26, 2019, 04:24:39 pm »
Nothing wrong with screw piles as long as they're built to standard and used appropriately. We've got high voltage equipment held up by screw piles that haven't moved in decades. 

People buying cheap screw piles that use weak steel, with no rust protection and bad welds shouldn't be surprised when their 'bargain' fails.

For structural applications, get a damned engineer or civil tech involved.

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6516 on: June 26, 2019, 04:47:17 pm »
For structural applications, get a damned engineer or civil tech involved.

That is no fun  :rofl2:

I am just more use to concrete footings and piers
Back in 1989 I set every  anchor bolt for this 2 story 200,000 sqft mall
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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6517 on: June 28, 2019, 04:22:46 am »
I'm a big fan of woodworking and I made my first wooden table recently. I found router bits reviews on some website and ordered a few for home use. They are useful in the workshop.
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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6518 on: June 28, 2019, 07:10:12 am »
I'm a big fan of woodworking and I made my first wooden table recently.


Nice work.  :thumbup:  I have a huge piece of salvaged oak that I plan on doing something similar with at some point.   I'm a little hung up on what to use for a base.  Did you buy those legs ready made or were they custom built? 

Also, you might find this thread interesting:

https://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php?topic=101003.0

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Re: What you Buy or DIY show off thread
« Reply #6519 on: June 28, 2019, 08:18:05 am »
I'm a big fan of woodworking and I made my first wooden table recently.


Nice work.  :thumbup:  I have a huge piece of salvaged oak that I plan on doing something similar with at some point.   I'm a little hung up on what to use for a base.  Did you buy those legs ready made or were they custom built? 

Also, you might find this thread interesting:

https://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php?topic=101003.0

That's awesome. Did you by any chance use the Live edge timber material? I ask because this weekend I'm about to start my office desk project where I build a custom 8 foot desk top using their lumber and legs. Love it!

https://www.liveedgetimber.com/
I love it when a plan comes together.