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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #140 on: January 05, 2009, 06:31:29 pm »
Quote from: MKII on January 05, 2009, 01:22:13 pm
Quote from: vdk on January 05, 2009, 11:46:13 am
4 feet doesn't really mean anything.. could be due to the weight of the driver.. ;D
Well its worth an insult from Edmunds "But when it came time for the Mazda's four-wheel discs to shine, they didn't. The Mazda 3 requires 127 feet to come to a stop from 60 mph, and we've tested a 2009 Corolla with rear drums that needed only 125 feet to complete the same task. "


oh.. it's definitely a poor braking performance.. considering the old 3 was better.. and a 'rolla beats it..

i was trying to say that a few feet difference between 2 tests is no biggie..
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #141 on: January 17, 2009, 09:19:17 am »
Pricing is now available and you can check out all the details of the 2010 model on the Mazda.ca site under "Upcoming Vehicles".

A summary of pricing and pkgs can be found on this post from RFD:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8088412&postcount=1776


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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #142 on: January 17, 2009, 09:27:50 am »
 nEW 3 owners can always brag.....................MINE is BIGGER than YOURS...................... :rofl:......Oooohh STOP IT Saf..............
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2009, 04:35:48 pm »
Why can't I get a 2L with sport seats and sunroof? Come on Mazda, break the mold for bending people over to get top level trims to get some comfort/safety features.  >:(
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #144 on: January 17, 2009, 05:53:06 pm »
Today I went to see the 2010 Mazda3. They had a Sport GT in blue with Luxury Package (leather).
I was very pleased with the interior quality and design. It's a step up from the current model and I dare to say it's the best quality interior in the class by far. It now has a very nicely textured soft touch upper dashboard. The rest of the interior materials are nice too and feel like high quality.
I wasn't sold to the new smiley face and body curves (resembling the Matrix from certain angles, which is not a good thing), but I have to say that in person it looks much better IMO.
The build feels solid and the fit and finish is top notch. This was a pre-production unit though.
I did not drive it, but I have no doubts that it will drive just fine.

Less than an hour later I sat in a "top of the line" Matrix in a Toyota showroom. What difference!!! The Matrix feels like a penalty box by comparison.
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #145 on: January 17, 2009, 08:26:30 pm »
Quote from: ggweci on January 17, 2009, 09:19:17 am
Pricing is now available and you can check out all the details of the 2010 model on the Mazda.ca site under "Upcoming Vehicles".

A summary of pricing and pkgs can be found on this post from RFD:

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8088412&postcount=1776

I had been idly toying with the idea of "what if I traded my 2006 Mazda3 for a new one in a couple of years?" but after seeing the options packages I'm not that interested.  It seems that the options I would want cannot be combined.  I won't go without cruise control and I want power windows/locks, heated outside mirrors, moonroof, heated cloth seats, auto-headlights and steering wheel mounted audio controls.  However I despise auto-dimming rearview mirrors and I definitely don't want traction control, stability control or rain-sensing wipers.  That combination doesn't seem to be doable.  :(
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #146 on: January 17, 2009, 08:49:27 pm »
Why would you be that bothered about traction and stability control? It's not exactly an enthusiast's car.
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #147 on: January 17, 2009, 09:03:48 pm »
The stability control/traction control can be disabled from the button on the dash.
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« Reply #148 on: January 17, 2009, 11:23:53 pm »
 and considering that it would not be a track car.. what's the problem with ESC? assuming you personally can't brake all 4 wheels independently.. it's good!
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« Reply #149 on: January 18, 2009, 12:24:09 am »
Traction control on a car
Quote from: Just Bob on January 17, 2009, 08:49:27 pm
Why would you be that bothered about traction and stability control? It's not exactly an enthusiast's car.

This is North America Bob.  The Mazda 3 is kind of an enthusiast's car.
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« Reply #150 on: January 18, 2009, 12:29:35 am »
Quote from: carcrazy on January 17, 2009, 09:03:48 pm
The stability control/traction control can be disabled from the button on the dash.

Really?  Just one button?  No complicated sequence of key turning and/or pedal presses? 
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #151 on: January 18, 2009, 12:33:19 am »
Quote from: dorin on January 18, 2009, 12:29:35 am
Quote from: carcrazy on January 17, 2009, 09:03:48 pm
The stability control/traction control can be disabled from the button on the dash.

Really?  Just one button?  No complicated sequence of key turning and/or pedal presses? 

Personally I'm hoping so. On my 6-Wgn the traction control is shut off fully with one button press.

I think both the RX-8 and MX-5 have ESC....Since there are owners in the forum, maybe somebody can say what needs to be done to turn it off in those cars.
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« Reply #152 on: January 18, 2009, 12:47:13 am »
Quote from: vdk on January 17, 2009, 11:23:53 pm
and considering that it would not be a track car.. what's the problem with ESC? assuming you personally can't brake all 4 wheels independently.. it's good!

No drifting around snowy corners for one.  Actually, I could possibly live with ESC that does not bog the car down and/or cause understeer, but all the ESC systems I've had the misfortune of experiencing tend to understeer and bog the car down.

Also, can you get ESP without traction control?  Traction control in a standard car is beyond useless since it screws with clutch modulation.
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« Reply #153 on: January 18, 2009, 01:32:55 am »
but it's a FWD car... they all understeer in corners.. handbrake sort of solves the problem but not really.. ESC will actually make the car take the corner and prevent understeer..

You might be able to get ESP w/o traction control.. I know some Audis have this thing.. if you press the ESP button once.. the traction control disengages but the ESP itself is still on.. you need to hold the button to disengage the ESP..
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #154 on: January 18, 2009, 08:11:44 am »
Dorin I think you'll find traction and stability work fine with manual transmissions, just ask BMW, Lotus and Porsche. ;)
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #155 on: January 18, 2009, 08:22:31 am »
Quote from: Just Bob on January 18, 2009, 08:11:44 am
Dorin I think you'll find traction and stability work fine with manual transmissions, just ask BMW, Lotus and Porsche. ;)

But all traction & stability controls are not created equally :popo:
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #156 on: January 18, 2009, 08:32:35 am »
Quote from: MKII on January 05, 2009, 01:22:13 pm
Quote from: vdk on January 05, 2009, 11:46:13 am
4 feet doesn't really mean anything.. could be due to the weight of the driver.. ;D
Well its worth an insult from Edmunds "But when it came time for the Mazda's four-wheel discs to shine, they didn't. The Mazda 3 requires 127 feet to come to a stop from 60 mph, and we've tested a 2009 Corolla with rear drums that needed only 125 feet to complete the same task. "

Rear brakes only provide ~30% of the braking force. Properly sized drums are just as effective as discs, plus they have the advantage of much higher resistance to corrosion on moving parts. Their main disadvantage is they don't dissipate heat quite as well, not an issue for mainstream street cars.
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #157 on: January 18, 2009, 09:04:25 am »
I think all 'Traction Control' can be turn off via a button, but not the likes of DSC. The CX-7 doesn't a sequence for the DSC to be turn off (not that it matters anyway for such a heavy and high center of gravity vehicle). Would be good the new 3 can have the DSC off.

Thumbs up to Mazda for having DSC on the 3 in the first place.  :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #158 on: January 18, 2009, 09:06:25 am »
Quote from: MKII on January 18, 2009, 08:22:31 am
Quote from: Just Bob on January 18, 2009, 08:11:44 am
Dorin I think you'll find traction and stability work fine with manual transmissions, just ask BMW, Lotus and Porsche. ;)

But all traction & stability controls are not created equally :popo:

Ain't that the truth! Even tho just mostly software codes.
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Re: 2010 Mazda3
« Reply #159 on: January 18, 2009, 09:22:08 am »
Quote from: dorin on January 18, 2009, 12:29:35 am
Quote from: carcrazy on January 17, 2009, 09:03:48 pm
The stability control/traction control can be disabled from the button on the dash.

Really?  Just one button?  No complicated sequence of key turning and/or pedal presses? 


It is one button on the left side of the steering wheel. That complicated sequence is usually needed on the cars that don't have the on/off button on the dash. I would also guess that the button disables both, ESP and TC.
On my Outlander, the ASC on/off button turns off both stability and traction control, which are integrated (they are also integrated with the 4WD system, but that remains active – there is a different knob to deal with the 4WD).


 I recall seeing a power on/off button on the rearview mirror, so I guess you can turn off the auto dimming feature too.
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