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Offline Triple Bob

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Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« on: September 18, 2008, 09:53:21 pm »
JB you're probably best placed to answer this but, if you have a paddle on the left and right behind the steering wheel that shift up and down (a CVT/auto/manual doesn't matter) a cog, what is the best positioning:

Attached to the steering wheel so they go around with it when you turn?

or

Fixed to the steering column so they stay where they are regardless of the steering wheel.

I drove a new outlander xls the other day that had a flappy paddle set up, and found I couldn't change gear when going round a corner, which was a real pain  when turning left in first gear!  I think they were fixed to the steering wheel, can't remember?

And which way is the Evo set up?
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Re: Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 10:06:30 pm »
I believe fixed to the column is the preferred way, the GT-R and EVO are both on the column if I remember correctly (GT-R for sure).  I keep my hands at 9-3 though almost 100% of the time so for me I like them on the wheel as I turn my hands are still there where the shifter is.  But if you get all crossed up on the wheel that could get confusing since it won't be obvious anymore and the angle where the paddle is is no longer straight.
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Re: Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 11:13:31 pm »
Quote from: wing on September 18, 2008, 10:06:30 pm
I believe fixed to the column is the preferred way, the GT-R and EVO are both on the column if I remember correctly (GT-R for sure).  I keep my hands at 9-3 though almost 100% of the time so for me I like them on the wheel as I turn my hands are still there where the shifter is.  But if you get all crossed up on the wheel that could get confusing since it won't be obvious anymore and the angle where the paddle is is no longer straight.

That's it though, when you're taking a 90 degree left you can't keep your hands like that easily, I had to actually look at the wheel to find the bleeding shifter!  At least on the column you know exactly where to find them if you are turning the wheel a lot, especially if sliding/drifting.
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Re: Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 11:20:40 pm »
Honestly...if you're talking the EVO with that tranny...the transmission is so intelligent, so brilliant that most racers got around the track a touch quicker with the tranny in auto mode.  Hard to believe, yes.  Even the legendary Drift King said the car's transmission was beyond amazing...
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Re: Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 05:36:48 am »
My GTi has them on the wheel  WRONG!   They should be on the column.. I have just the same problem, accelerating from rest around a corner can't find a paddle to change up from 1st.
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Re: Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2008, 06:18:29 am »
Paddle shifts work best with an aggressive the rack and pinion ratio on the steering. IMO They were never intended for street use and daily driving situations when you have to turn the steering wheel >90 deg.
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Re: Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 06:41:16 am »
I would go for far more aggressive steering, maybe 2 turns lock to lock (rather than 3+)  would be tight yet allow a bit of sneeze capability.
Funny that none of the "tuners"  make high ration power steering racks as part of their packages.  I suppose that they would be rather expensive and also quite difficult for the home mechanic to install.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2008, 06:42:52 am by tpl »
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Re: Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 07:36:23 pm »
They seem to be fine on my USB Logitech steering wheel.
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Re: Flappy Paddle Gear Shift
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2008, 10:06:43 pm »
Quote from: Snowman on September 19, 2008, 06:18:29 am
Paddle shifts work best with an aggressive the rack and pinion ratio on the steering. IMO They were never intended for street use and daily driving situations when you have to turn the steering wheel >90 deg.
:iagree: Any sharp turns in 1st are a real pain in the ass with wheel mounted paddles. Column mounted wins!
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