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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2008, 08:48:59 pm »
Quote from: gmgod on July 20, 2008, 08:47:21 pm
They are correct. Toyota and Honda have been manipulating their epa esimates for a long time. NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT!!!!

What a G5 gets 48MPG ?
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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2008, 08:57:44 pm »
The EPA rates (highway, 5 speed manual) the G5 XFE, a high mileage model we don't get here, at 6.7L/100km, (or 42 Imp MPG). For comparison, the Corolla gets 6.4 (44 Imp. mpg) and the Civic gets 6.9 (41mpg). So it's basically competitive. Driving style will make more difference than the difference between models.

Also from the EPA the Aveo5 gets 6.9L/100km (Imp 41mpg), the same as the Fit and less than the Yaris 6.5 (43 Imp. mpg)
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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2008, 09:00:08 pm »
Quote from: Big_Thumb on July 20, 2008, 08:57:44 pm
The EPA rates the G5 XFE, a high mileage model we don't get here, at 6.7L/100km, (or 42 Imp MPG). For comparison, the Corolla gets 6.4 (44 Imp. mpg) and the Civic gets 6.9 (41mpg). So it's basically competitive. Driving style will make more difference than the difference between models.

meh....

Yeah but 6MPG difference is a big difference when people are quoting misleading figures to drive sales..?  I agree on driving style but you have to use averages when comparing different models.
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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2008, 09:05:09 pm »
Quote from: Just Bob on July 20, 2008, 09:00:08 pm
Quote from: Big_Thumb on July 20, 2008, 08:57:44 pm
The EPA rates the G5 XFE, a high mileage model we don't get here, at 6.7L/100km, (or 42 Imp MPG). For comparison, the Corolla gets 6.4 (44 Imp. mpg) and the Civic gets 6.9 (41mpg). So it's basically competitive. Driving style will make more difference than the difference between models.

meh....

Yeah but 6MPG difference is a big difference when people are quoting misleading figures to drive sales..?  I agree on driving style but you have to use averages when comparing different models.

Agreed. That's why I never get my information from salesmen or newspaper adverts! They may be opening themselves up for misleading advertising accusations.
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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2008, 09:20:45 pm »
Quote from: KRS on July 20, 2008, 07:52:11 pm
then its time for you to reconsider such a sweeping statement as "The Domestics are the worst when comes to gas mileage"

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My mistake. :)

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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2008, 09:25:18 pm »
Quote from: Big_Thumb on July 20, 2008, 09:05:09 pm
Quote from: Just Bob on July 20, 2008, 09:00:08 pm
Quote from: Big_Thumb on July 20, 2008, 08:57:44 pm
The EPA rates the G5 XFE, a high mileage model we don't get here, at 6.7L/100km, (or 42 Imp MPG). For comparison, the Corolla gets 6.4 (44 Imp. mpg) and the Civic gets 6.9 (41mpg). So it's basically competitive. Driving style will make more difference than the difference between models.

meh....

Yeah but 6MPG difference is a big difference when people are quoting misleading figures to drive sales..?  I agree on driving style but you have to use averages when comparing different models.

Agreed. That's why I never get my information from salesmen or newspaper adverts! They may be opening themselves up for misleading advertising accusations.

 The 6 MPG difference diifference is I believe due to the difference in how the EPA and Natural Resources Canada mandates testing. If you go to the NRC website at http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/tools/fuelratings/ratings-search.cfm?attr=8 You will Find that according to the Canadian government  48 MPG is what a G5 with the 2.2 Litre 5 speed achieves on the Highway cycle of testing. Also its worth considering that if your buying a new vehicle in Canada that the Energuide Mileage ratings are on the window stickers so it's not easy for a salesman to lie to you if you do a little research. For what its worth the NRC site says the 2008 corolla gets 53 MPG highway and as I had in my previous post the Civic has a 52 MPG highway rating in their most efficient models so the better mileage in Canadian testing is the same across the board.

 
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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2008, 09:48:40 pm »
Quote from: KRS on July 20, 2008, 09:25:18 pm
Quote from: Big_Thumb on July 20, 2008, 09:05:09 pm
Quote from: Just Bob on July 20, 2008, 09:00:08 pm
Quote from: Big_Thumb on July 20, 2008, 08:57:44 pm
The EPA rates the G5 XFE, a high mileage model we don't get here, at 6.7L/100km, (or 42 Imp MPG). For comparison, the Corolla gets 6.4 (44 Imp. mpg) and the Civic gets 6.9 (41mpg). So it's basically competitive. Driving style will make more difference than the difference between models.

meh....

Yeah but 6MPG difference is a big difference when people are quoting misleading figures to drive sales..?  I agree on driving style but you have to use averages when comparing different models.

Agreed. That's why I never get my information from salesmen or newspaper adverts! They may be opening themselves up for misleading advertising accusations.

 The 6 MPG difference diifference is I believe due to the difference in how the EPA and Natural Resources Canada mandates testing. If you go to the NRC website at http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/tools/fuelratings/ratings-search.cfm?attr=8 You will Find that according to the Canadian government  48 MPG is what a G5 with the 2.2 Litre 5 speed achieves on the Highway cycle of testing. Also its worth considering that if your buying a new vehicle in Canada that the Energuide Mileage ratings are on the window stickers so it's not easy for a salesman to lie to you if you do a little research. For what its worth the NRC site says the 2008 corolla gets 53 MPG highway and as I had in my previous post the Civic has a 52 MPG highway rating in their most efficient models so the better mileage in Canadian testing is the same across the board.

 

You are correct. I didn't check the Energuide numbers. Their testing is more optimistic then the EPA method.

For those interested: www.fueleconomy.gov
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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2008, 09:59:07 pm »
Quote from: gmgod on July 20, 2008, 08:47:21 pm
They are correct. Toyota and Honda have been manipulating their epa esimates for a long time. NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT!!!!

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Re: Are these figures correct?
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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2008, 06:39:49 am »
Quote from: Mitlov on July 20, 2008, 09:59:07 pm
Quote from: gmgod on July 20, 2008, 08:47:21 pm
They are correct. Toyota and Honda have been manipulating their epa esimates for a long time. NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT!!!!

Five bucks says GMGod is actually one of the anti-domestic folks on this website trolling.  Does anybody know how to check his IP to see if he shares it with another member?

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Re: Are these figures correct?
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2008, 07:52:31 am »
Quote from: gmgod on July 21, 2008, 06:39:49 am
Quote from: Mitlov on July 20, 2008, 09:59:07 pm
Quote from: gmgod on July 20, 2008, 08:47:21 pm
They are correct. Toyota and Honda have been manipulating their epa esimates for a long time. NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT!!!!

Five bucks says GMGod is actually one of the anti-domestic folks on this website trolling.  Does anybody know how to check his IP to see if he shares it with another member?

You owe me 5 bucks.

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