Author Topic: McGuinty's Looking to Euroland for a new manufacturer... (Read 4530 times)

Thinking Out Loud · « **on:** July 02, 2008, 01:51:40 pm »

...if you had your choice of all the manufacturers in Europe to choose from, who would you want to see succeed with a plant and product here?

I'm voting for Citroen, close second - Fiat.

safristi · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2008, 01:58:53 pm »

,,,

....If i was McSquinty....I'd hide inna Swiss un-NUMB BUMMED account

...we have been BERNE'd enuf wif the doofus......his policies have more HOLES than SWISS CHEESIE_NESS......

weebl · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2008, 02:46:16 pm »

I don't know the whole story, but will I laugh again at what McSquinty is up to?

Thinking Out Loud · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2008, 02:52:26 pm »

Here's a link:

http://www.thestar.com/News/Ontario/article/428063

mwqa · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2008, 03:28:27 pm »

I'd like to see Renualt for the Modus and the Scenic.

The Citroen Picasso certainly has personality, but the rest of thier models seem a bit anonymous.

I've seen Peugots around England and likewise am not impressed.

Loudpedal · « **Reply #5 on:** July 02, 2008, 04:05:57 pm »

Renault, Peugeot, Fiat... in that order

vdk · « **Reply #6 on:** July 02, 2008, 06:16:42 pm »

ALFA ! ! !

or Peugeot

mmret · « **Reply #7 on:** July 02, 2008, 06:38:09 pm »

Cortina · « **Reply #8 on:** July 02, 2008, 08:27:17 pm »

Peugeot they are the best IMO.

Trouble with Fiat, Renault and Citroen they are not that reliable. Renault and Citroen are only reliable when the got the Peugeot diesel engines under the bonnet IMO.

Ummmmm. While your at it........

I also say scrap NA Ford and GM. Bring over the Euroland Ford and GM products which are far better and would save the companies IMHO.

tpl · « **Reply #9 on:** July 02, 2008, 08:30:05 pm »

VW 1st

Citroen, Fiat, Renault tie 2nd

or

Caterham & Noble.

vdk · « **Reply #10 on:** July 02, 2008, 08:34:17 pm »

Quote from: Cortina on July 02, 2008, 08:27:17 pm

Peugeot they are the best IMO.

Trouble with Fiat, Renault and Citroen they are not that reliable. Renault and Citroen are only reliable when the got the Peugeot diesel engines under the bonnet IMO.

Ummmmm. While your at it........

I also say scrap NA Ford and GM. Bring over the Euroland Ford and GM products which are far better and would save the companies IMHO.

The problem with all those is that they're not THAT reliable... not even Peugeot, I speculate Renault is the most reliable of the bunch...

Citroen + Peugeot = PSA, kinda like a french VAG.

rrocket · « **Reply #11 on:** July 02, 2008, 08:35:34 pm »

Windsor was trying to court VW. But VW balked because of...you guessed it...the CAW.

tpl · « **Reply #12 on:** July 02, 2008, 08:43:16 pm »

I would trade Toyota-like reliability for character any day.

rrocket · « **Reply #13 on:** July 02, 2008, 08:54:13 pm »

My Supra oozes character......

And is dead reliable to boot!!

My Echo also has character..though I'm not entirely sure what kind....LOL...

Cortina · « **Reply #14 on:** July 02, 2008, 08:54:38 pm »

Quote from: vdk on July 02, 2008, 08:34:17 pm

Quote from: Cortina on July 02, 2008, 08:27:17 pm
Peugeot they are the best IMO.

Trouble with Fiat, Renault and Citroen they are not that reliable. Renault and Citroen are only reliable when the got the Peugeot diesel engines under the bonnet IMO.

Ummmmm. While your at it........

I also say scrap NA Ford and GM. Bring over the Euroland Ford and GM products which are far better and would save the companies IMHO.

The problem with all those is that they're not THAT reliable... not even Peugeot, I speculate Renault is the most reliable of the bunch...

Citroen + Peugeot = PSA, kinda like a french VAG.

Peugeot do make the best Diesel. Thats is they only way to have any of these french cars. IMO Peugeot make the best Diesel in the world.

tpl · « **Reply #15 on:** July 02, 2008, 08:58:17 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on July 02, 2008, 08:54:13 pm

My Supra oozes character...... And is dead reliable to boot!!

My Echo also has character..though I'm not entirely sure what kind....LOL...

I thought of your Supra while I was typing that last reply.... that, Mr2 and the awd turbo Celica of some years back

Cortina · « **Reply #16 on:** July 02, 2008, 09:00:18 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on July 02, 2008, 08:54:13 pm

My Supra oozes character...... And is dead reliable to boot!!

My Echo also has character..though I'm not entirely sure what kind....LOL...

Thrifty.

Thinking Out Loud · « **Reply #17 on:** July 02, 2008, 09:20:37 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on July 02, 2008, 08:35:34 pm

Windsor was trying to court VW. But VW balked because of...you guessed it...the CAW.

Wonder how Honda and Toyota did it...what happened to Hyundai in Quebec? Union also?

Sidebar, I'm wondering if VW is better NOT getting (back) into the 'macrovan' market with JV deal on a new-nosed Dodge Caravan, given declining minivan sales?

Quote from: Cortina on July 02, 2008, 08:27:17 pm

Ummmmm. While your at it........

I also say scrap NA Ford and GM. Bring over the Euroland Ford and GM products which are far better and would save the companies IMHO.

I also agree - a 'clean sheet' approach would be nice - but at what cost in alienated loyalty to the existing brands (and there is to some extent)?

Ford Trucks could be spun off, and the Crown Vic Police Interceptor has a dedicated following in law enforcement circles that a Magna could own without breaking a sweat (Frank Stronach, Line 1 please....Frank Stronach, Line 1) paid-off tooling and an assembly plant ready for purchase.

Anyway, back to my original question, would like to see ANY other brand, in addition to VW, in the general populace affordability sector from Europe.

I was reminicing about the Renault/AMC days, and (really) old Skoda days.

Zoo · « **Reply #18 on:** July 02, 2008, 09:40:18 pm »

Quote from: Cortina on July 02, 2008, 08:27:17 pm

Peugeot they are the best IMO.

Trouble with Fiat, Renault and Citroen they are not that reliable. Renault and Citroen are only reliable when the got the Peugeot diesel engines under the bonnet IMO.

Ummmmm. While your at it........

I also say scrap NA Ford and GM. Bring over the Euroland Ford and GM products which are far better and would save the companies IMHO.

Isn't that what GM is already doing with Saturn with very mixed results? A friend of mine just traded in their Ion

for a new Astra. I am hoping to take it out later this week and see how it drives. Their Ion was pretty crappy based on my time driving it. I am hopeful that the Astra will feel a bit like a VW or sort of "Euro".

initial_D · « **Reply #19 on:** July 03, 2008, 06:57:36 pm »

Ferrari.

Author Topic: McGuinty's Looking to Euroland for a new manufacturer... (Read 4530 times)

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