Topic: Real-world fuel consumption

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Just came back from 4 days in Niagara Falls via Waterloo and back to Toronto.

Charged the Tesla fully on Saturday, and dropped son off at camp in Waterloo, charged while eating and shopping at the Conestoga Mall, then took to the highway and arrived in Niagara Falls with 60 km range remaining.  Charged fully overnight at the hotel and went to Niagara on the Lake and back, and other sight seeing.  Plugged in again the next night to top up.  Did the water park and then the journey behind the falls today. 

Arrived home with 100 km range remaining, averaged 230 wH/km on the trip.  More than half of the electricity we used was covered by the charge spots included in the hotel we visited.  Basically, we paid $9 for more than 500 km of travel this week.

[Solstice2006]

Just came back from 4 days in Niagara Falls via Waterloo and back to Toronto.

Charged the Tesla fully on Saturday, and dropped son off at camp in Waterloo, charged while eating and shopping at the Conestoga Mall, then took to the highway and arrived in Niagara Falls with 60 km range remaining.  Charged fully overnight at the hotel and went to Niagara on the Lake and back, and other sight seeing.  Plugged in again the next night to top up.  Did the water park and then the journey behind the falls today. 

Arrived home with 100 km range remaining, averaged 230 wH/km on the trip.  More than half of the electricity we used was covered by the charge spots included in the hotel we visited.  Basically, we paid $9 for more than 500 km of travel this week.

Yeah but think of the money you could have saved if you didn't go to the mall!   

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Yeah but think of the money you could have saved if you didn't go to the mall!   

+1 !!  This is the same reason places offer free wifi.  More and more destinations will have EV charging in the future, it's about attracting dollars.  Right now, there are hundreds of charge points in Ontario, most of them fully funded by the hotel, mall, restaurant, etc that is providing them to attract customers.

The chargers at malls are relatively slow, adding 30km for each hour plugged in, this is done on purpose to keep us at the destination longer in order to get any meaningful range added.

But even with "slow but free" charging, it's better than nothing.  Just like using free wifi when available to avoid using data on your LTE plan...

The mall was an unplanned stop, it showed up as an available charger, so we gave our business to them instead of another place.  It's just that simple.  I vote with my purchasing power, it's how things get done in a capitalistic society.

I just wanted to highlight that we drove a road trip that didn't include Tesla superchargers and it worked out great, just like our previous trip to New York did.   Flawless.

[quadzilla]

In most articles I've read, for some reason the Passat seems to bring in better numbers than Golf / Jetta, despite the added size - go figure!!

I am guessing the longer body is more aerodynamic.  Particularly vs the Golf.

I'm sure I read somewhere that hatches/wagons are less aero than sedans.

[quadzilla]

Cambridge - Pennsylvania/Maryland

7.6 L/100 going
7.9 L/100 return

Pretty good considering how crazy steep everything is in PA.

Found some great roads and even did some hooning one night. Saw a Focus ST up ahead but he obviously saw me coming after him. Now that was a really fun and scary (lots of blind crests) drive.

[Ex-airbalancer]

In most articles I've read, for some reason the Passat seems to bring in better numbers than Golf / Jetta, despite the added size - go figure!!

I am guessing the longer body is more aerodynamic.  Particularly vs the Golf.

I'm sure I read somewhere that hatches/wagons are less aero than sedans.

I wonder, the Prius is a hatch , if a sedan was more efficient , I think they would made it a sedan 

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3L/100km "equivalent" today in a large sedan (Tesla) with luggage and 4 passengers at highway (left lane) speeds in the rain (worse on efficiency compared to dry).

Math:

We drove 310 km today on a single charge (with 75 km remaining estimated range when we arrived home)
Used about 65 kWh (including 15% loss during charging)
= $10 in overnight electricity here in Ontario
approximately the same as 9L of gas,
about the equivalent of 3L/100km.

[mlin32]

My total trip last week was just shy of 2500km, with an average of 6,2 l/100km diesel.

[bridgecity]

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I ended the weekend with a 1470km trip to southern Alberta with the travel trailer and boys dirt bikes in tow.  Economy on the way there was 28l/100km, with the final economy reading at 26.8 when we pulled up to the driveway.  This would mean the economy on the way home was in the 25.6l/100km range.  Towing speed was 105-110km/hr.  Temps were extreme on the way there, hitting 36C in some locations with a strong cross wind.  Winds were calm on the way home with temps in the teens. 

Heavy fuel bill, that's for sure.

[KD]

Averaged 7.1l/100 km on a relatively leisurely 240 km round trip to Sussex yesterday in the S2000.  Pretty well an even mix of backroads and highway with a few passes made on the backroads, but not much hooning as wife on board. I usually settle in around 125km/h on the highway.  Seems to be getting a little better now that it's reached 12k. 

[See3PeeO]

Breaking in the wife's new Sonata drove up to Collingwood, across to Wiarton, up to Lion's Head to the cottage for the weekend and back home.  6.8 for the entire trip and 6.3 on the ride home (250 km of back roads at 95 km/h).  Will be easy to get 800 km out of a tank.

[Ex-airbalancer]

Breaking in the wife's new Sonata drove up to Collingwood, across to Wiarton, up to Lion's Head to the cottage for the weekend and back home.  6.8 for the entire trip and 6.3 on the ride home (250 km of back roads at 95 km/h).  Will be easy to get 800 km out of a tank.

What size tank?

[See3PeeO]

Breaking in the wife's new Sonata drove up to Collingwood, across to Wiarton, up to Lion's Head to the cottage for the weekend and back home.  6.8 for the entire trip and 6.3 on the ride home (250 km of back roads at 95 km/h).  Will be easy to get 800 km out of a tank.

What size tank?

70.  Great range.

[Ex-airbalancer]

Breaking in the wife's new Sonata drove up to Collingwood, across to Wiarton, up to Lion's Head to the cottage for the weekend and back home.  6.8 for the entire trip and 6.3 on the ride home (250 km of back roads at 95 km/h).  Will be easy to get 800 km out of a tank.

What size tank?

70.  Great range.

I can get over 800 on 40 litre tank

[johngenx]

I can get over 800 on 40 litre tank

We typically see the fuel light go on in the Corolla at about 800km - then cram 42L in.  I really appreciate the long range.

The longest range car we ever owned was our Mercedes diesel.  It had a whopping 80L tank that went on the light at 8L remaining, giving us a realistic range of 1200km on the highway.  I loved it.  I wish all my cars could go 1000km on a tank.

[rrocket]

I can get over 800 on 40 litre tank

We typically see the fuel light go on in the Corolla at about 800km - then cram 42L in.  I really appreciate the long range.

The longest range car we ever owned was our Mercedes diesel.  It had a whopping 80L tank that went on the light at 8L remaining, giving us a realistic range of 1200km on the highway.  I loved it.  I wish all my cars could go 1000km on a tank.

The range in my Insight was about 1200kms. That thing sipped fuel.  Was pretty sweet to only visit the gas station about once a month (I really only used the car for work).

In the "I can't believe it can go this far on a tank of gas" cars was my Stealth TT.  It had a ~75L tank and on the highway could go well over 800kms.

[Solstice2006]

I can get over 800 on 40 litre tank

We typically see the fuel light go on in the Corolla at about 800km - then cram 42L in.  I really appreciate the long range.

The longest range car we ever owned was our Mercedes diesel.  It had a whopping 80L tank that went on the light at 8L remaining, giving us a realistic range of 1200km on the highway.  I loved it.  I wish all my cars could go 1000km on a tank.

The range in my Insight was about 1200kms. That thing sipped fuel.  Was pretty sweet to only visit the gas station about once a month (I really only used the car for work).

In the "I can't believe it can go this far on a tank of gas" cars was my Stealth TT.  It had a ~75L tank and on the highway could go well over 800kms.

Always wanted to drive a Stealth, saw a green for sale about 4 km from here.  But isn't it the R/T?

[OliverD]

I think he just meant TT = twin turbo. There was a naturally aspirated R/T along with the AWD turbo R/T.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

So,

The Altima usually does 6.9-7.3 l/100kms on the highway.  Today we'll be doing 3 hours of highway, but with 1000lbs of trailer tent hooked up to the back of it.  Anyone care to take any guesses as to what my fuel usage will increase to?  I'll be sticking between 90 & 100 km/h, more for safety reasons than economy.

If I have cell service I'll post the results when we get there this evening.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I can get over 800 on 40 litre tank

We typically see the fuel light go on in the Corolla at about 800km - then cram 42L in.  I really appreciate the long range.

The longest range car we ever owned was our Mercedes diesel.  It had a whopping 80L tank that went on the light at 8L remaining, giving us a realistic range of 1200km on the highway.  I loved it.  I wish all my cars could go 1000km on a tank.

The Altima has a 75L tank.  Doing 7.0L/100km nets us over 1000kms per tank on the highway.  This came in handy when we drove to Calgary and back last year.  I could do Winnipeg to Swift Current in one shot, then reached Calgary with a half-tank left over.  On the way home, Calgary to Regina was not a problem, then a half tank remaining in Winnipeg.