Topic: Real-world fuel consumption

[WP v3.32]

Did a little Canada Day trip of 150kms return to friends cottage. Even with some stop and go through a small town for part of trip I pulled off 7.8 (or 36 MPG) in non-turbo CX-5. Pretty pleased with that. I know I could do better on a pure highway run.

Over 6200 kms of my normal driving mix (a lot of city driving) I am at 10.5 (26.9 MPG).

7.8 = 30 US MPG

10.5 = 22 US MPG

Could the British and American at least agree on what a gallon is. 

[PJungnitsch]

Did a little Canada Day trip of 150kms return to friends cottage. Even with some stop and go through a small town for part of trip I pulled off 7.8 (or 36 MPG) in non-turbo CX-5. Pretty pleased with that. I know I could do better on a pure highway run.

Over 6200 kms of my normal driving mix (a lot of city driving) I am at 10.5 (26.9 MPG).

7.8 = 30 US MPG

10.5 = 22 US MPG

Could the British and American at least agree on what a gallon is. 

Remember the big wrench box back on the farm had a few oddball British wrenches in /32 sizes, like a 19/32 and a 25/32. Always wondered what the hell they were thinking. One was perfect for a particular metric drain plug, other than that they pretty much just weighed down the toolbox

[dkaz]

Did a little Canada Day trip of 150kms return to friends cottage. Even with some stop and go through a small town for part of trip I pulled off 7.8 (or 36 MPG) in non-turbo CX-5. Pretty pleased with that. I know I could do better on a pure highway run.

Over 6200 kms of my normal driving mix (a lot of city driving) I am at 10.5 (26.9 MPG).

7.8 = 30 US MPG

10.5 = 22 US MPG

Could the British and American at least agree on what a gallon is. 

I wonder what it was like pre metric buying gas in Canada by the imperial gallon and then having to buy 20% more in the US. It makes the photos of pre metric gas prices even more impressive knowing it’s 4.54L not 3.78L.

Of course the confusion with the MPG rating. When I bought my brand new Mazda 3 they had one along the side of the road 49 MPG like who still uses MPG? Then one of the staff mentioned the temperature in Fahrenheit and it made sense lol.

[rrocket]

Did a little Canada Day trip of 150kms return to friends cottage. Even with some stop and go through a small town for part of trip I pulled off 7.8 (or 36 MPG) in non-turbo CX-5. Pretty pleased with that. I know I could do better on a pure highway run.

Over 6200 kms of my normal driving mix (a lot of city driving) I am at 10.5 (26.9 MPG).

7.8 = 30 US MPG

10.5 = 22 US MPG

Could the British and American at least agree on what a gallon is. 

I wonder what it was like pre metric buying gas in Canada by the imperial gallon and then having to buy 20% more in the US. It makes the photos of pre metric gas prices even more impressive knowing it’s 4.54L not 3.78L.

Of course the confusion with the MPG rating. When I bought my brand new Mazda 3 they had one along the side of the road 49 MPG like who still uses MPG? Then one of the staff mentioned the temperature in Fahrenheit and it made sense lol.

The systems are often used interchangeably here (border town).

Most astonishing is that they are still used, both of them, in skilled trades here.

[Seafoam]

Did a little Canada Day trip of 150kms return to friends cottage. Even with some stop and go through a small town for part of trip I pulled off 7.8 (or 36 MPG) in non-turbo CX-5. Pretty pleased with that. I know I could do better on a pure highway run.

Over 6200 kms of my normal driving mix (a lot of city driving) I am at 10.5 (26.9 MPG).

7.8 = 30 US MPG

10.5 = 22 US MPG

Could the British and American at least agree on what a gallon is. 

I wonder what it was like pre metric buying gas in Canada by the imperial gallon and then having to buy 20% more in the US. It makes the photos of pre metric gas prices even more impressive knowing it’s 4.54L not 3.78L.

Of course the confusion with the MPG rating. When I bought my brand new Mazda 3 they had one along the side of the road 49 MPG like who still uses MPG? Then one of the staff mentioned the temperature in Fahrenheit and it made sense lol.

I  use liters per 100 when doing calculations and relate that back to the old imperial measure as that is how it was always done. The US calculation in miles per gallon means nothing to me.

[warp]

In the Toyota Grand Highlander fuel consumption measurement can be set in three different ways:

miles per US gallon

liters/100 km

km per liter.


I have set it at km per liter as I find that the most intuitive.

[Slow_lane]

Did a little Canada Day trip of 150kms return to friends cottage. Even with some stop and go through a small town for part of trip I pulled off 7.8 (or 36 MPG) in non-turbo CX-5. Pretty pleased with that. I know I could do better on a pure highway run.

Over 6200 kms of my normal driving mix (a lot of city driving) I am at 10.5 (26.9 MPG).

I knew I could do better. Did another day trip with very little stop and go. Almost all highway and pull off 7.3 (based on the dash readout) in the CX-5. I will not mention what MPG it is. Ok I will ..... it is 38.7 per Imperial gallon.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Did a little Canada Day trip of 150kms return to friends cottage. Even with some stop and go through a small town for part of trip I pulled off 7.8 (or 36 MPG) in non-turbo CX-5. Pretty pleased with that. I know I could do better on a pure highway run.

Over 6200 kms of my normal driving mix (a lot of city driving) I am at 10.5 (26.9 MPG).

I knew I could do better. Did another day trip with very little stop and go. Almost all highway and pull off 7.3 (based on the dash readout) in the CX-5. I will not mention what MPG it is. Ok I will ..... it is 38.7 per Imperial gallon.

Your numbers add up to mine, more or less.  I can do low 7's on a pure highway trip (without bikes on the back), while my in-town average is sitting at 11. 

I had pretty much perfect conditions on Saturday - the wifey and I took a little drive up to Lockport, the next town over from Winnipeg, down some winding (for Manitoba) B-roads.  Speeds were low (60km/h), and there are NO stops, so fuel economy averaged about 5.5L/100kms.  Completely abnormal and totally situational, but still a cool number to see on the dash readout. 

[valuator]

Two years and just over 16,000kms with the Civic Si and the mileage seems to be stabilizing.  Still loving the car and it fits my needs very well.  Got the winter tires off today and had its first true inspection.  As you can see from the picture there are 4 numbers indicating the last two years of “winter” and “summer” driving.  This past winter was especially mild so I think that’s why the mileage was a bit better.  Lifetime average is sitting at 6.3L/100kms.  Not bad for a compact sports sedan.

I envy your lack of mileage....I've done 16,000km in the new Pilot just since January. 

[JohnnyMac]

Two years and just over 16,000kms with the Civic Si and the mileage seems to be stabilizing.  Still loving the car and it fits my needs very well.  Got the winter tires off today and had its first true inspection.  As you can see from the picture there are 4 numbers indicating the last two years of “winter” and “summer” driving.  This past winter was especially mild so I think that’s why the mileage was a bit better.  Lifetime average is sitting at 6.3L/100kms.  Not bad for a compact sports sedan.

I envy your lack of mileage....I've done 16,000km in the new Pilot just since January.

I think our similar aged CR-V is at around 21,000kms roughly, and the difference is almost 100% due to a trip my wife took with it to her parents place in northern NL.  She'll be doing that again at some point this summer/fall. 

We just don't take long road trips, live very close to our works and things we need, and the big one is we don't have kids to cart around to a million activities.  By the time we are ready to trade both vehicles in at the 7 year mark, the Civic will likely be sitting somewhere between 40,000-50,000kms, while the CR-V should be under 90,000kms I would think. 

[WP v3.32]

In the Toyota Grand Highlander fuel consumption measurement can be set in three different ways:

miles per US gallon

liters/100 km

km per liter.


I have set it at km per liter as I find that the most intuitive.

I think Mexico and south america uses the KM per L, I might be wrong


Finally hit 9.9L/100km with the Ram.   Highway driving but there was construction so speed was reduced.   

[bye]

"Fuel" cost details for 1050 km of road trip from Cape Cod MA to Toronto using Tesla superchargers exclusively (three stops) in a Ford Lightning extended range pickup truck.
$125 CAD in Tesla supercharger fees.
Plus $10 in home charging on FLO home 30A 240V charger.

At the 125 km/h average speeds we drove, a gas truck would cost at least $200 CAD right?

[rrocket]

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At the 125 km/h average speeds we drove, a gas truck would cost at least $200 CAD right?

Why does it have to be a truck? Trucks are inefficient.

I could have done the same trip for $50.

[TheHire]

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At the 125 km/h average speeds we drove, a gas truck would cost at least $200 CAD right?

Why does it have to be a truck? Trucks are inefficient.

I could have done the same trip for $50.

Not towing his trailer though...

[rrocket]

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At the 125 km/h average speeds we drove, a gas truck would cost at least $200 CAD right?

Why does it have to be a truck? Trucks are inefficient.

I could have done the same trip for $50.

Not towing his trailer though...

No, definitely not.

But towing a trailer is an inefficient means of travel.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

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At the 125 km/h average speeds we drove, a gas truck would cost at least $200 CAD right?

Why does it have to be a truck? Trucks are inefficient.

I could have done the same trip for $50.

Not towing his trailer though...

Also, I don't think that trip was towing his trailer - that was truck alone. 

Anyway, I can do the math for my much more reasonable CX-5 (not as efficient as Ron's Prius, and not as wasteful as a half ton pickup for a 2-person trip - just average). 

8L/100 km (what I get at 125km/h) with gas at $1.50/L is $126.  So right on par with the EV truck.  Not sure what the draw is at this point, as the EV truck doesn't really hold any advantage other than it's bigger.  But for 2 people, you don't really need bigger.  And you have to make more stops. 

[Blueprint]

My last two pressers, mostly urban mixed driving: Dodge Hornet PHEV, 2.0 l/100 km (regular), Lexus GX 550, 16.2 L/100 km (premium). This week's Trailblazer sitting at 8.0 so far, and that thing actually feels stiffer than the GX. Won't pull 9,096 lbs though  .

[WP v3.32]

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At the 125 km/h average speeds we drove, a gas truck would cost at least $200 CAD right?

Why does it have to be a truck? Trucks are inefficient.

I could have done the same trip for $50.

Not towing his trailer though...

Also, I don't think that trip was towing his trailer - that was truck alone. 

Anyway, I can do the math for my much more reasonable CX-5 (not as efficient as Ron's Prius, and not as wasteful as a half ton pickup for a 2-person trip - just average). 

8L/100 km (what I get at 125km/h) with gas at $1.50/L is $126.  So right on par with the EV truck.  Not sure what the draw is at this point, as the EV truck doesn't really hold any advantage other than it's bigger.  But for 2 people, you don't really need bigger.  And you have to make more stops.

   I just did road trip with my Ram 1500 and managed 10.1L/100km.  So that would have been 106L @ $1.52/L = $161  for 1050km.

[Blueprint]

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At the 125 km/h average speeds we drove, a gas truck would cost at least $200 CAD right?

Why does it have to be a truck? Trucks are inefficient.

I could have done the same trip for $50.

Not towing his trailer though...

Also, I don't think that trip was towing his trailer - that was truck alone. 

Anyway, I can do the math for my much more reasonable CX-5 (not as efficient as Ron's Prius, and not as wasteful as a half ton pickup for a 2-person trip - just average). 

8L/100 km (what I get at 125km/h) with gas at $1.50/L is $126.  So right on par with the EV truck.  Not sure what the draw is at this point, as the EV truck doesn't really hold any advantage other than it's bigger.  But for 2 people, you don't really need bigger.  And you have to make more stops.

   I just did road trip with my Ram 1500 and managed 10.1L/100km.  So that would have been 106L @ $1.52/L = $161  for 1050km.

My colleague who went through Maine with a GV60 - he did the math, the cost of the public charges was equivalent to gassing up an NX 350h for the same distance travelled, and that includes the bits in Quebec, where power is cheaper and gas much more expensive.

[WP v3.32]

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At the 125 km/h average speeds we drove, a gas truck would cost at least $200 CAD right?

Why does it have to be a truck? Trucks are inefficient.

I could have done the same trip for $50.

Not towing his trailer though...

Also, I don't think that trip was towing his trailer - that was truck alone. 

Anyway, I can do the math for my much more reasonable CX-5 (not as efficient as Ron's Prius, and not as wasteful as a half ton pickup for a 2-person trip - just average). 

8L/100 km (what I get at 125km/h) with gas at $1.50/L is $126.  So right on par with the EV truck.  Not sure what the draw is at this point, as the EV truck doesn't really hold any advantage other than it's bigger.  But for 2 people, you don't really need bigger.  And you have to make more stops.

   I just did road trip with my Ram 1500 and managed 10.1L/100km.  So that would have been 106L @ $1.52/L = $161  for 1050km.

My colleague who went through Maine with a GV60 - he did the math, the cost of the public charges was equivalent to gassing up an NX 350h for the same distance travelled, and that includes the bits in Quebec, where power is cheaper and gas much more expensive.

The gap between gas and electric doesn't look that enticing anymore.