Topic: Real-world fuel consumption

[blur911]

My last tank in the Cayenne was under 13, it was 12.95 L/100km.   

Not too bad, but premium is such a rip-off in Ontario.

[JohnnyMac]

My last tank in the Cayenne was under 13, it was 12.95 L/100km.   

Not too bad, but premium is such a rip-off in Ontario.

Is the price different huge at Costco gas station in Ontario?  Here in NB the only place to buy premium is at Costco as it's typically the same price as other stations regular.

[ChaosphereIX]

yeah, I am getting a Costco membership, almost solely for bulk almonds and cashews and premium fuel for the Jag...

[tortoise]

Is the price different huge at Costco gas station in Ontario?  Here in NB the only place to buy premium is at Costco as it's typically the same price as other stations regular.

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It's typically 10 cents/L more at Costco vs. almost 30 cents/L

[JohnnyMac]

Is the price different huge at Costco gas station in Ontario?  Here in NB the only place to buy premium is at Costco as it's typically the same price as other stations regular.

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It's typically 10 cents/L more at Costco vs. almost 30 cents/L

I think it's more like 6 cents spread here in NB between Costco regular and Costco 91 supreme.  The spread is only about double that at regular gas stations though, so we don't see that 30 cent difference here.

[rrocket]

Is the price different huge at Costco gas station in Ontario?  Here in NB the only place to buy premium is at Costco as it's typically the same price as other stations regular.

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It's typically 10 cents/L more at Costco vs. almost 30 cents/L

The fuel at Costco in Ontario is also Top Tier....if that matters.

[dkaz]

Costco’s premium costs the same as everyone else’s regular, at least in Edmonton.

Screenshot 1 - Costco regular
Screenshot 2 - Costco premium
Screenshot 3 - everyone else’s regular

[quadzilla]

Forgot to check my consumption going to London but on the way back to Cambridge with a 20-30 kph headwind, I got 6.9 L/100 with the cruise set at 119 kph. Should be doing some secondary highway tomorrow which should produce better numbers. Engine has less than 300 km.

Side notes. Really liking radar cruise but hate the shitty stereo.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Forgot to check my consumption going to London but on the way back to Cambridge with a 20-30 kph headwind, I got 6.9 L/100 with the cruise set at 119 kph. Should be doing some secondary highway tomorrow which should produce better numbers. Engine has less than 300 km.

Side notes. Really liking radar cruise but hate the shitty stereo.

Wow, those are great numbers at that speed (effectively 140-150km/h with the headwind). 

I WAS going to say that the stereo can be upgraded, but then I remembered how integrated stereos are into the car now, what with the infotainment and all that.  So maybe not?  Possibly better speakers would help? 

[Seafoam]

Forgot to check my consumption going to London but on the way back to Cambridge with a 20-30 kph headwind, I got 6.9 L/100 with the cruise set at 119 kph. Should be doing some secondary highway tomorrow which should produce better numbers. Engine has less than 300 km.

Side notes. Really liking radar cruise but hate the shitty stereo.

Is that better consumption under similar conditions as your GTI ?

[JohnnyMac]

Forgot to check my consumption going to London but on the way back to Cambridge with a 20-30 kph headwind, I got 6.9 L/100 with the cruise set at 119 kph. Should be doing some secondary highway tomorrow which should produce better numbers. Engine has less than 300 km.

Side notes. Really liking radar cruise but hate the shitty stereo.

Considering how new that vehicle is, the speed, plus wind, I'd say that's a minimum of 1L/100 higher than it will be once it's broken in and without the headwind.  Heck it might even be closer to 2L/100 high.  I know with my GLI at those speeds with some wind and hills I'm under 6L/100kms, so I'd be shocked if the Corolla doesn't beat that handily. 

[Blueprint]

Forgot to check my consumption going to London but on the way back to Cambridge with a 20-30 kph headwind, I got 6.9 L/100 with the cruise set at 119 kph. Should be doing some secondary highway tomorrow which should produce better numbers. Engine has less than 300 km.

Side notes. Really liking radar cruise but hate the shitty stereo.

Wow, those are great numbers at that speed (effectively 140-150km/h with the headwind). 

I WAS going to say that the stereo can be upgraded, but then I remembered how integrated stereos are into the car now, what with the infotainment and all that.  So maybe not?  Possibly better speakers would help?

Had a '22 Corolla hatchback last week, finished my week at 7.1. Put less than 200 km on it though. 6MT XSE with the JBL stereo. Hatches not as good as sedans because they lack the poor man's subwoofer we call a trunk. While the JBL was decent in the Hatchback, I remember the base system in the C-HR LE I reviewed earlier this year was nearly as good. If yours is a sedan, then better speakers are the way to go, maybe even add a sub in the trunk.

[quadzilla]

I WAS going to say that the stereo can be upgraded, but then I remembered how integrated stereos are into the car now, what with the infotainment and all that.  So maybe not?  Possibly better speakers would help?

If yours is a sedan, then better speakers are the way to go, maybe even add a sub in the trunk.

Yes sedan. Might be a project for next year.

Considering how new that vehicle is, the speed, plus wind, I'd say that's a minimum of 1L/100 higher than it will be once it's broken in and without the headwind.  Heck it might even be closer to 2L/100 high.  I know with my GLI at those speeds with some wind and hills I'm under 6L/100kms, so I'd be shocked if the Corolla doesn't beat that handily. 

That GLI is really good. I'll be going back to London again next week so will be checking both ways this time. FTR, my numbers are door-door from cold start.

Is that better consumption under similar conditions as your GTI ?

GTI would have been into the 9's. Done that trip enough times I could compute the wind speed just from my f/e. On a good day it would be low 8's or the odd high 7's. Secondary roads I was mostly into the 7's.

[JohnnyMac]

Yeah this was a trip I did back in April with my GLI, still had my winter tires on, I know my average speed only says 99kms/hr but that's more because a little bit of city driving and some secondary roads that had a speed limit of 80kms/hr.  About 200kms of that distance was traveled at 115km/hr.

[warp]

Yeah this was a trip I did back in April with my GLI, still had my winter tires on, I know my average speed only says 99kms/hr but that's more because a little bit of city driving and some secondary roads that had a speed limit of 80kms/hr.  About 200kms of that distance was traveled at 115km/hr.

That is excellent. Do you have the DSG or the 6 speed manual? Because my experience with the GTI is more like:

GTI would have been into the 9's. Done that trip enough times I could compute the wind speed just from my f/e. On a good day it would be low 8's or the odd high 7's. Secondary roads I was mostly into the 7's.

[JohnnyMac]

Yeah this was a trip I did back in April with my GLI, still had my winter tires on, I know my average speed only says 99kms/hr but that's more because a little bit of city driving and some secondary roads that had a speed limit of 80kms/hr.  About 200kms of that distance was traveled at 115km/hr.

That is excellent. Do you have the DSG or the 6 speed manual? Because my experience with the GTI is more like:

GTI would have been into the 9's. Done that trip enough times I could compute the wind speed just from my f/e. On a good day it would be low 8's or the odd high 7's. Secondary roads I was mostly into the 7's.

Manual, but I don't think there would be a big change either way, actually think the DSG might be even more efficient, but I'm not sure.

[tortoise]

The TDI guys all say that the manual gives better fuel economy than the DSG.

It makes sense that the GLI is better than the GTI since sedans tend to be more aerodynamic.

[warp]

Yeah this was a trip I did back in April with my GLI, still had my winter tires on, I know my average speed only says 99kms/hr but that's more because a little bit of city driving and some secondary roads that had a speed limit of 80kms/hr.  About 200kms of that distance was traveled at 115km/hr.

That is excellent. Do you have the DSG or the 6 speed manual? Because my experience with the GTI is more like:

GTI would have been into the 9's. Done that trip enough times I could compute the wind speed just from my f/e. On a good day it would be low 8's or the odd high 7's. Secondary roads I was mostly into the 7's.

Manual, but I don't think there would be a big change either way, actually think the DSG might be even more efficient, but I'm not sure.

A lot of people say that both transmissions give  identical numbers under test conditions but in real world driving the manual has better consumption. Having said that Car and Driver tested the GLI with both transmissions over their 200 mile highway test run at 75  mph and got an identical 36 mpg. They also got 36 mpg with the GTI but did not specify what transmission it had. With the regular Jetta 1.4 liter turbo they got 43 mpg with the 8 speed automatic and 48 mpg with the 6 speed manual.

But this could also be a factor in the GLI vs GTI fuel consumption comparison:

The TDI guys all say that the manual gives better fuel economy than the DSG.

It makes sense that the GLI is better than the GTI since sedans tend to be more aerodynamic.

[quadzilla]

Yeah this was a trip I did back in April with my GLI, still had my winter tires on, I know my average speed only says 99kms/hr but that's more because a little bit of city driving and some secondary roads that had a speed limit of 80kms/hr.  About 200kms of that distance was traveled at 115km/hr.

I'm very impressed. Now show us your worst. 

The best I did in the GTI was 5.9 cruising through a valley in Vermont but the gearing is short.

[rrocket]

Forgot to check my consumption going to London but on the way back to Cambridge with a 20-30 kph headwind, I got 6.9 L/100 with the cruise set at 119 kph. Should be doing some secondary highway tomorrow which should produce better numbers. Engine has less than 300 km.

Side notes. Really liking radar cruise but hate the shitty stereo.

Wow, those are great numbers at that speed (effectively 140-150km/h with the headwind). 

I WAS going to say that the stereo can be upgraded, but then I remembered how integrated stereos are into the car now, what with the infotainment and all that.  So maybe not?  Possibly better speakers would help?

Had a '22 Corolla hatchback last week, finished my week at 7.1. Put less than 200 km on it though. 6MT XSE with the JBL stereo. Hatches not as good as sedans because they lack the poor man's subwoofer we call a trunk. While the JBL was decent in the Hatchback, I remember the base system in the C-HR LE I reviewed earlier this year was nearly as good. If yours is a sedan, then better speakers are the way to go, maybe even add a sub in the trunk.

I've been spoiled by Mark Levinson for the last several years.

Even though I have the top shelf JBL system in the Prius, it sounds like a turd to my ears.  And I'm half deaf.