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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #100 on: October 08, 2008, 11:17:39 am »
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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #101 on: October 08, 2008, 11:54:21 am »
No quad has FORE_skins pulling him back........................ :run:
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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #102 on: October 08, 2008, 12:10:34 pm »
Here are some screenshots - doesn't it seem odd that 6:29:99 and 6:30:58 and 6:30:83 all come before the turn (watch the sign on the left handside of the turn)

then suddenly the clock goes back to 6:30:00 right at the sign in the turn and counts 6:30 again as shown in the screenshot of 6:30:21 and 6:36 both of which appear after the sign on the left hand side.
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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #103 on: October 08, 2008, 02:10:18 pm »
:iagree:

I think we can all agree the GT-R and ZR1 are both very quick cars...  'nuff said.

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #104 on: October 08, 2008, 02:37:36 pm »
..my Nuclear CLOCK begs to differ....................... >:D :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :run:


Drederick must be using a NUCULAR clock.

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #105 on: October 08, 2008, 03:51:50 pm »
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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #106 on: October 08, 2008, 05:11:22 pm »
Just so I understand....the GT-R is not the ringer....the ringer is the........ringer timer??   HAHAHAHAHA    :rofl2:


Yea...cut it out already........Like I said....I'm still not sure what you're trying to prove anyways...the ZR-1 was quicker around the 'Ring.  Period.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2008, 05:21:44 pm by rrocket »
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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #107 on: October 08, 2008, 07:17:13 pm »
ZR-1 looks better too. ;D
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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #108 on: October 08, 2008, 07:28:25 pm »
ZR-1 looks better too. ;D

Looks like every other Corvette more or less.....So I prefer the looks of the GT-R for that reason...

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #109 on: October 08, 2008, 08:02:54 pm »
Kind of what I meant, Corvettes in general look better.

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #110 on: October 08, 2008, 08:06:48 pm »
Kind of what I meant, Corvettes in general look better. plain.

Fixed it for ya!   ;D

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #111 on: October 08, 2008, 08:19:36 pm »
Kind of what I meant, Corvettes in general look better. plain like they weren't designed by Xbox 360 refugees.

Fixed it for ya!   ;D

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #112 on: October 08, 2008, 08:21:27 pm »
Kind of what I meant, Corvettes in general look better. plain like they were designed by someone who couldn't even turn on an Xbox 360.

Fixed it for ya!   ;D

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #114 on: October 09, 2008, 11:48:14 am »
Geez, look how out of whack those screen caps are!  Even the steering wheel has been put on the wrong side of the car!   :o 

Since my brother works in the industry, I can tell you that I've seen some pretty cool video editing that is so very seamless you wouldn't even know it's there.  Further, imagine speeding up the footage, oh, say 2% in the editing stage.  It'd be so subtle, that you'd never notice it while watching it, but the end result would be that the car would appear to be going around the track faster than it really did (this isn't just for the GT-R footage -- it could be for anything, Porsche, Ferrari, Corvette, Wing showing off in the S2000, whatever).   If the whole legitimacy one car's time over another around the ring is dependent on a YouTube video, well, I tell ya, buddy, you need a much more reliable source.   
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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #115 on: October 09, 2008, 12:02:10 pm »
Nissan's press release regarding the subject.
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Nissan Motor Company Ltd.

Global Communications

October 9, 2008

Statement

NISSAN GT-R TEST PROCEDURES

In light of comments made recently in the media concerning the testing of the Nissan GT-R, it is clear that there are some important facts that were not accurately represented.

Background

          o On September 24, 2007 the Nissan GT-R recorded a lap time of the Nordschleife circuit at Germany's Nurburgring of seven minutes and 38 seconds. This lap time was completed in weather conditions that the Nissan test team knew would not show the full potential of the car.


          o On April 17, 2008 the Nissan test team was back at the Nurburgring and recorded a new lap time of seven minutes and 29 seconds, several times.


          o For all testing at the Nurburgring and other circuits such as Sendai Highlands in Japan, the GT-R development team used production specification vehicles with production specification tires. These tests are part of the extensive performance and durability program undertaken before, during and after the commercial introduction of the GT-R.


          o The GT-R is a world-class supercar developed to be sold in multiple global markets. While specifications can differ across the various markets, the cars used to record both Nurburgring lap times were identical to the Japanese market production specification cars.


          o For the April 2008 test, the GT-R carried an additional 50kg of weight due to the Marelli data recorder and video camera equipment. In addition, the test was witnessed by 'Best Motoring' magazine from Japan who reported the test in their July 2008 issue, which included a DVD program of the session.


          o Nissan records the lap times around the Nurburgring using the same methodology and measuring locations as Sport Auto Magazine in Germany. Sport Auto Magazine provides the most consistent and objective measurement of lap times around the Nurburgring, allowing accurate comparisons between different vehicles.


          o In both timed lap sessions at the Nurburgring, chief test driver and professional racing driver, Toshio Suzuki was at the wheel. Suzuki has been the chief test driver on the GT-R program throughout the vehicle's development.


Tires

The GT-R offers two different tire choices for customers:

          o Bridgestone POTENZA RE070R
          o Dunlop SP SPORT 600 DSST CTT


          o For the tests conducted at the Nurburgring where the lap times of 7:38 and 7:29 were recorded, the Dunlop tires were used. The tires – which are designed for high performance driving in the dry and wet - used in the tests were identical to the production specification tires available to GT-R customers.


          o In June, 2008 Dunlop Japan issued a press release announcing that their tires had been used by Nissan to record the 7:29 lap time. The release can be accessed in Japanese and English at:

            http://www.dunlop.co.jp/newsrelease/2008/2008_039.htm

            http://www3.srigroup.co.jp/CACHE/news_news_e_newsobj144_2008.cfm

          o For any media interested in seeing the actual tires used at the test (7:29 lap time), they should contact the Public Relations Department at Sumitomo Rubber Industries, Ltd. in Japan.


Driving the GT-R

          o Consistent with industry benchmarking practices, we are aware that several auto makers have purchased the GT-R for their own testing and evaluation. Like all GT-R customers, we recommend that any auto maker buying a GT-R should follow the recommended run-in procedures, service schedules and maintenance to ensure the maximum performance from their car.


          o In addition, we offer performance driving courses for prospective and current GT-R owners to help them get the best performance from their car. We would welcome the opportunity to help any auto manufacturer with understanding the full capabilities of the GT-R.


Remarks

From Kazutoshi Mizuno, Chief Vehicle Engineer and Chief Product Specialist for GT-R:

"We have used circuits like the Nurburgring and Sendai extensively during the development of the GT-R. The fastest lap-time was never the objective but a simple parameter for us to measure the GT-R in a consistent way against other world class supercars."

"Testing a car with specialized parts such as unique tires or suspension has no meaning for us. The GT-R was designed from the start to be a supercar that could be driven anywhere, anytime and by anyone. For us, testing the car in standard production specification is far more relevant than creating a one-off vehicle that our customers cannot buy."





Conclusion
Due to the weather conditions at the Nurburgring, testing has now stopped and will resume around April 2009. Nissan will be back at the Nurburgring testing both the standard GT-R and upcoming additional models. We look forward to welcoming more members of the media to join us for these test sessions, consistent with our transparency at previous test sessions.

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #116 on: October 09, 2008, 12:08:10 pm »
:fiver:

:thumbup:

Well done, Nissan PR folks.  Not only are they laying down all the details -- including putting forth the ability for anyone to actually see the tires used, they're also suggesting Porsche's drivers are sub-standard.   :rofl2:

I'm a huge Porsche fan... but I'm also a marketing professional, and this kind of stuff is most entertaining.

" o For any media interested in seeing the actual tires used at the test (7:29 lap time), they should contact the Public Relations Department at Sumitomo Rubber Industries, Ltd. in Japan.


Driving the GT-R

          o Consistent with industry benchmarking practices, we are aware that several auto makers have purchased the GT-R for their own testing and evaluation. Like all GT-R customers, we recommend that any auto maker buying a GT-R should follow the recommended run-in procedures, service schedules and maintenance to ensure the maximum performance from their car.

     o In addition, we offer performance driving courses for prospective and current GT-R owners to help them get the best performance from their car. We would welcome the opportunity to help any auto manufacturer with understanding the full capabilities of the GT-R."

« Last Edit: October 09, 2008, 12:10:16 pm by Giant Dwarf »

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #117 on: October 09, 2008, 01:19:53 pm »
So sumitomo makes dunlop eh?

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #118 on: October 09, 2008, 02:05:56 pm »
So sumitomo makes dunlop eh?

Yeah, I caught that too...  Veddy, veddy intellesting.

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Re: First Track Test: Nissan GT-R CRUSHES Z06 and Porsche 911 TT
« Reply #119 on: October 09, 2008, 02:26:47 pm »
So sumitomo makes dunlop eh?

Yeah, I caught that too...  Veddy, veddy intellesting.
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