Topic: THE DAY HAS COME! Transport Canada considering less stringent bumper rules!

[turbodiesel]

For those who are angry that Canada uses the 8km/h bumper rule causing imports and even other stuff difficult, guess what? TC is considering LESS STRINGENT BUMPER RULES!

http://www.globeauto.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080103.wh-buzz-0103/GAStory/specialGlobeAuto/home

Good riddance, 8km/h bumper rule. Now stick with the US and UNECE rules and make everyone happy.

[Snowman]

So…easing fontal impact damage criteria is a good thing?

[sailor723]

So…easing fontal impact damage criteria is a good thing?

It is if the costs are outweighing the benefits!

[Snowman]

So…easing fontal impact damage criteria is a good thing?

It is if the costs are outweighing the benefits!

Show me the trade-off study then.

[sailor723]

Doesn't the Globe article mention a NHTSA study from '87?...Seems about right...only took Transport Canada 20 years to catch on!

[Snowman]

"Evidence suggests" OK..I will buy that 

[tpl]

The 8km bumper was uselessIMHO.  A much more sensible approach would be to make ALL bumpers on vehicles sold to the public and vehicles that are likely ENCOUNTERED by the public ( buses, 18 wheelers etc)  ALL the same height with a massive fine for anyone who lowers or jacks up their vehicle outside a narrow range. I realize that some people with jacked up trucks object and so do some rice boys.... too bad.

[dr_spock]

How does having a weaker bumper a good thing in low speed impacts?

[safristi]

Duty Booty Calls @ tha BORDER......How Firm is IT Maam?? I;m guessing by MY MAN_O_Meter yer a titch LOW......

[tpl]

How does having a weaker bumper a good thing in low speed impacts?

It doesn't.  But I'd rather have weak bumper to weak bumper  than strong  bumper to radiator or to trunk lid.

[Cord]

Good. Body shops needed a break.

[Scaerio]

UNECE

OMG!  I thought I was the only one who knew what this useless UN body was...

[turbodiesel]

my justification: 4km/h bumper and 8km/h bumper, who cares? you get a very slow speed collision (i.e. slam on light post becuz of bad parking skills), end up crack the bumper, your fault; dun blame the car manufacturer and ask for insurance.

that makes sense.

[2JDM]

So...

Can we import the previous gen Evo now?? 

[barrie1]

Time to go back to the bumpers that are made of something that will take a hit for a change instead of the cheap paper thin useless crap they use now. The only thing they are any good for is to look good. Nothing else at all as you hit something at creeping speed and its still over $2000. to start with. Even the bumper on my 1972 GMC is at least 25 times stronger then the junk of to-day by all of the builders. They save weight on the car but nothing else is worth the damage they cause to the owners pocket or the Insurance Comanies pockets which in turn you pay for anyways. 

[Mitlov]

So…easing fontal impact damage criteria is a good thing?

It is if the costs are outweighing the benefits!

Show me the trade-off study then.

Study?  Here's my six-letter study.

EVO
GTO

[2JDM]

So…easing fontal impact damage criteria is a good thing?

It is if the costs are outweighing the benefits!

Show me the trade-off study then.

Study?  Here's my six-letter study.

EVO
GTO

YOUR BACK!

[pickles]

The 8km bumper was uselessIMHO.  A much more sensible approach would be to make ALL bumpers on vehicles sold to the public and vehicles that are likely ENCOUNTERED by the public ( buses, 18 wheelers etc)  ALL the same height with a massive fine for anyone who lowers or jacks up their vehicle outside a narrow range. I realize that some people with jacked up trucks object and so do some rice boys.... too bad.

I agree with this, we need a bumper height standard.

Hmm most manufacturer front crash tests are done by slaming the vehicle into a barrier wall where height of the bumper does not matter.  In real world driving how many vehicles have a vertical wall attached to their bumpers so when two vehicles hit with different bumper heights it will not be a factor.

[duck]

The 8km bumper was uselessIMHO.  A much more sensible approach would be to make ALL bumpers on vehicles sold to the public and vehicles that are likely ENCOUNTERED by the public ( buses, 18 wheelers etc)  ALL the same height with a massive fine for anyone who lowers or jacks up their vehicle outside a narrow range. I realize that some people with jacked up trucks object and so do some rice boys.... too bad.

 

There is too much damage from bumper hitting rad.

[Ex-airbalancer]

my justification: 4km/h bumper and 8km/h bumper, who cares? you get a very slow speed collision (i.e. slam on light post becuz of bad parking skills), end up crack the bumper, your fault; dun blame the car manufacturer and ask for insurance.

that makes sense.

You are parked on a street, some is parking behind you and bump your car, and drives away.
You have $500 damage done. Not your fault.
There are always two sides to a story

Could the speed lowering be  to protecting a pedestrian. need the front end to collapse at a lower speed

I know why are people out walking in front of your car, they should be driving