This white stuff will eat holes in your clothing so if it isen't called acid what is Steve?Lead Sulphite salt or ester. But, best not to sprinkle it on your roast beef.
Do you really have a clue about GM as the Delco Division which make the Batteries is owned by GM and not Delphi but you continue to publish false info as usual regarding GM.Delphi, no longer a GM company, but still a major supplier (who else is going to buy from them
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) took all of AC Delco and is in the process of spinning some of those operations off. GM retained some naming rights such as "Freedom".
THey use distilled water inside most batteries which is not acidic until it has been charged to the full strength of the batteries power limit.Dude, new batteries are filled with sulfuric acid, not water.
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To top up a used battery one then can use water.
Here is good example of just how crap Delco side batteries are:
AC Delco - GM Battery Leaking Acid Complaint ripoff NationwideMy wife and I purchsed 2 Saturn vehicles from the Saturn Dealership in December of 2000, they were 2001 models. I have owned 3 Saturns prior to this purchase because I honestly believed in the company and it's quality of vehicle. What I have since discovered is that GM uses faulty batteries to run and operate the vehicles they sell. The battery they use is AC Delco (which is owned by General Motors - something I was not aware of until this afternoon).
In 2002 my car would not start. Upon opening the hood I discovered that the positive connection to the battery was wet and something had been leaking out, battery acid. I had to get the vehicle towed to the dealership, but in the process the guy doing the tow had failed to put the car into neutral. I pointed this out to him and he told me something to the effect that he had been doing this for years and he was doing it right. Black marks were made on my driveway as a result and after the battery was replaced I was told that there was also damage done to my brakes.
Fast Forward to September of 2003. My wife and I moved to Central Florida. She was about to go to work and came back into the house to tell me her car would not start. I went out and sure enough, the EXACT same thing happened. Battery Acid had leaked out. The good side, no evident damage appeared to have been done and EVERYTHING was covered under warranty. The battery was replaced and we were told it had an 18 month warranty.
Fast Forward to September of 2004. I am driving my car along the road and it suddenly dies on me. Coasting to the side of the road I begin to freak out a little. I turn the car off and then sit for a moment then try to start it. It starts, so I immediatly take it to the Saturn Dealership. Upon opening the hood, guess what? The positive connection was yet again corroded. It's a lucky thing I was not driving on the interstate that day! They had to change the battery, but this time it was pro-rated to me. I spent $69.95 for that plus $3.13 for a bolt, plus who knows how much for the install, I had some other work done so the install price is not itemized.
Fast Forward to today, January 13th. My wife is again about to go to work and comes back to tell me her car won't start. Before I even look, I can already assume it's the positive connection leaking acid. I went down and took a picture of it, which is what you see here. I called the Saturn Dealership and they tried to tell me that it was not covered under warranty, that from September of 2004 to now exceeded 18 months, I tried to correct his math, but he assured me I was wrong. My math tells me it's 16 months, but what do I know? I was also told that the warranty on my wife's car only ran for the first 3 years, or 36,000 miles. Odd how I was holding in my hand the Service Plan Agreement for her car that stated we had a 5 year/60,000 mile warranty coverage.
He also told me that towing and install would not be covered under the warranty either. I called my wife at work (she took my car) and explained this all to her and we both agreed that it sounded like a crock. She called them and then called me back and told me that someone in the Service Department said that both the battery and the install would be covered under the warranty.
At this point I became very confused and called them back. I was now told what my wife had been told; that the battery and the install were covered under warranty, but that we had to figure out some way to get the car towed there, the towing would still not be covered.
I got off the phone with the dealership and called the Saturn 800-number for roadside assistance, the same number we had called the previous 3 times this had happened. I gave them my VIN number and asked about my warranty and the lady told me that towing WAS covered under my warranty.
I hung up and called the dealship to let them know my car would be brought in. They told me that their computers were down and they would have to take my information down manually. Within an hour and a half after hanging up with Roadside Assistance my wife's car was towed to the dealership.
I've yet to hear anything from the dealership in regards to my car, but I can honestly say that my faith in General Motors is almost gone. I cannot understand how I can get such a run-around, how they can outfit their vehicles with a battery that obviously has some issues, and yet they have not done a recall on the batteries to fix the issues!
Can you imagine driving you car with you family on the interstate then all of a sudden it dies on you? What kind of lawsuit do you think the parent company of AC Delco would face in an instance like that? Instead I guess the would rather replace the bad battery with another model that will do the same thing.
I can guarentee that I will post a followup to this after I hear what they have to tell me.
David
Palm Bay, Florida
U.S.A.Another leaking AC/Delco battery!
I bought an Oldsmobile Aurora in 2001, and to Delco's credit, the battery lasted until September, 2005. Olds saw fit to locate the battery in this car, under the back seat, so checking its 'Freedom' battery was/is not a simple everyday thing.
When the battery died this week, I pulled out the rear seat cushion to find a pool of acid in the battery tray and an encrusted positive terminal/cable end. Upon attempting to unscrew the cable, the entire terminal broke out of the battery.
My car is still under its original 60 months/60,000 mile 'bumper to bumper' warranty, but GM refuses to fix it as they no longer cover any battery/related parts for more than 3 years or 36,000 miles.
Add this one to some other historical issues with GM and its products and this will probably be the last GM product I purchase.
Page
Glendale, Arizona
U.S.A.Purchased GMC pickup in 2002 it came with standard stock battery. After 3.5 years the battery suddenly died. It would not jump or take a charge. The battery was then replaced with a similar/same battery for $125.00. After 16 months the battery went dead again. The first battery was deemed a bad cell. The second battery would not take a charge. The second battery was replaced free of charge to a third battery. It is clear to me that something is defective about this line of batteries. There was also corrosion found and cleaned off the connections both times. All three times this battery was dealer standard stock part AC Delco battery 650 CCA. I have gone through three batteries in 5 years and 2 months I think this is a little accessive for a battery that boast a 5 year life span.
In the past I have had Mopar or Diehard batteries and have gotten in access of five years useage from them. Don't know what AC Delco problem is?
Bearshadow
Big Rapids, Michigan
U.S.A.For many more tales of hardship
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