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2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« on: November 23, 2007, 10:59:49 am »







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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2007, 11:19:03 am »
Similar numbers to the STI and should make for an interesting head to head shoot out. I willing to bet the GSR will be $4k cheaper than the STI but the MR will be close.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2007, 11:42:31 am »
price predictions already...

so the 'muricans had anxiety over a bump in their STi msrp to ~35k USD. Will ours still be 50k CAD?  I think the EVO will enter in at the low 40s + a few grand for toys.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2007, 12:01:20 pm »
Wow... i am so glad that Mitsu is including Sunvisors and carpets as STD.  ::)

When a car company starts to list Map Lights or Emergency Trunk Release as part of their STD features, you know the car is gonna be fairly bare.  :)  Pity no... IC Sprayer.
Check out the >3500lb weight. Did Rosie had a hand on it?  ???
Are the hp/tq measurement SAE?

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2007, 12:52:05 pm »
My dealer told me to expect a price reduction in the STI in Canada much like the 2008 WRX. IMO the STI is be near the $45k range.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2007, 12:56:06 pm »
I noticed the weight too, Ghost.  What was the weight on that 'fat pig' 135i again? 

No heated seats?  No steering wheel controls?  It had better be fun to drive!
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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2007, 01:05:01 pm »
Is it just me or do those look like high reving, power launching gear ratios!?!

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2007, 01:11:50 pm »
I noticed the weight too, Ghost.  What was the weight on that 'fat pig' 135i again? 

No heated seats?  No steering wheel controls?  It had better be fun to drive!

Heated seats in the MR  and the diff has a steering wheel control.  ;) ;D

I have a little spreadsheet on a bunch of cars, and the power to weight on for the EVO is bested by two cars (I care about on my spreadsheet) - the 135i and ... the MazdaSpeed3.  Now, getting those cars to hook up is a whole 'nother matter.

What's also interesting is how tiny the trunk appears to be.  6.9 cubic feet!  A Mini is 5.7, an RX-8 is 7.6 and my e36 BMW was 10.3.  My Miata was 3.6 cu.ft.!!

Rear legroom is also smaller than my e36 BMW, while the EVO is longer (but has a shorter wheelbase).

I'm sure it's an amazing sports car (more so than my BMW was), but some funny compromises is sedan body unless some of my numbers are wrong.  Not that I care that much as I think I'd be fine back in a car of MINI proportions.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2007, 01:34:26 pm »
Yay. Now I can brag against the EVO fanbois that my torqueless wunder RX-8 has something over their cars - trunk space.  :rofl:
So let me get this straight. Despite not having the requisite leather, heated this and that, padded NVH items the EVO is still as heavy if not more so than the 135i. :think:


What's also interesting is how tiny the trunk appears to be.  6.9 cubic feet!  A Mini is 5.7, an RX-8 is 7.6 and my e36 BMW was 10.3.  My Miata was 3.6 cu.ft.!!


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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2007, 01:55:56 pm »
I have a little spreadsheet on a bunch of cars, and the power to weight on for the EVO is bested by two cars (I care about on my spreadsheet) - the 135i and ... the MazdaSpeed3.  Now, getting those cars to hook up is a whole 'nother matter.


Yeah, but really, aside from at the drag strip, when is a perfect launch really THAT crucial?  The roll-on power is where most day-to-day driving is most enjoyable, no?  Once the MS3 is rolling along, and you dip your toe into the pool of turbo goodness, hang on!

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2007, 02:22:14 pm »
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Yeah, but really, aside from at the drag strip, when is a perfect launch really THAT crucial?  The roll-on power is where most day-to-day driving is most enjoyable, no?  Once the MS3 is rolling along, and you dip your toe into the pool of turbo goodness, hang on!

Yes, if you're really head to head on a race track the cars don't come to a stop (or even slow speeds) along the course.  Makes my wonder how much weight savings could be gained in a front-wheel drive only EVO X.

The EVO X will be faster than the MS3 no problem.  But for the price different makes you wonder how much faster?  A few thousand dollars on the MS3 can get you hp numbers to match the EVO X.  And if you buy Mazdaspeed parts they are under warranty.

To me AWD has its uses in snow, ice, and bad wet weather.  On a dry track or road, it makes you wonder if it's worth while.  I mean, F1 cars are not AWD.  The weight savings by not having AWD are greater for racing IMO.  In real world driving there's a huge benefit though.  But you're not supposed to race on public roads  ;)  In slippery conditions I don't push my car.  It's just too dangerous and usually all the other traffic is going slower than normal anyway.

My only wish was that Mitsu made a hatcback EVO X.  When I'm done with my MS3 in a few years I'd have to get the STi instead, even though I like the styling of the EVO more.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2007, 02:47:41 pm »
To me AWD has its uses in snow, ice, and bad wet weather.  On a dry track or road, it makes you wonder if it's worth while.  I mean, F1 cars are not AWD.

But neither are they FWD.  I would take the AWD version of a performance car over the FWD version any time, but in the case of the MS3, there is no such thing.  For the vast price difference between the MS3 and the EVO, the Mazda is a much better bang/buck.  Wish the MS3 was $29,995 with an AWD version for $31,995.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2007, 02:50:33 pm by johngenx »

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2007, 02:49:44 pm »
Holy brake size batman! 18 inch front disc and 17 inch back wow or was that wheel size?. Winter tires will cost a lot for this car LOL.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2007, 02:51:42 pm by gotak »

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2007, 02:52:18 pm »
Holy brake size batman! 18 inch front disc and 17 inch back wow. Winter tires will cost a lot for this car LOL.

13.8" F/13.0 R.  Still huge.  The 18/17 numbers might mean min wheel size, os the "name" of the brakes, as the actual disc diameter is listed below.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2007, 02:54:25 pm »
yeah on 2nd read that's what I thought too strange to put 18 and 17 on the sheet then.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2007, 03:05:07 pm »
Cannot compare the EVO with the MS3. Not in the same class. At best the MS3 likens to the Neon SRT4, Caliber SRT4,Civic SI and GTI. All fairly capable FWD cars in its own class. EVO and STi are another beast altogether.
RWD --> AWD -----------------------------------------------------------> FWD.  ;D

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2007, 03:48:26 pm »
Cannot compare the EVO with the MS3. Not in the same class. At best the MS3 likens to the Neon SRT4, Caliber SRT4,Civic SI and GTI. All fairly capable FWD cars in its own class. EVO and STi are another beast altogether.
RWD --> AWD -----------------------------------------------------------> FWD.  ;D

Ghost is right.  The EVO is neck-and-neck with the STi, perhaps even slightly better (comparing previous-generation to previous-generation).  Completely different class than the FWD hot hatches.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2007, 04:27:34 pm »
Makes my wonder how much weight savings could be gained in a front-wheel drive only EVO X.

Blasphemy!  If it aint AWD, it aint an EVO, even if it's got a million horsepower and accelerates faster than the space shuttle.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2007, 05:32:20 pm »
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To me AWD has its uses in snow, ice, and bad wet weather.  On a dry track or road, it makes you wonder if it's worth while.  I mean, F1 cars are not AWD.

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But neither are they FWD.

I was just pointing out that the professionals who design, race and manage one of the most rigorous races known to man do not feel AWD is necessary or worthwhile, that's all.  Obviously F1 cars are a completely different beast.

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Cannot compare the EVO with the MS3. Not in the same class. At best the MS3 likens to the Neon SRT4, Caliber SRT4,Civic SI and GTI. All fairly capable FWD cars in its own class. EVO and STi are another beast altogether.
RWD --> AWD -----------------------------------------------------------> FWD.  Grin

I wasn't necessarily trying to compare MS3 with EVO X as overall packages.  I know the EVO X is in a different league.  It was more a question of how useful is AWD on the racetrack.  And let's face it, these cars (EVO X, STi) are really only gonna stretch their legs on a racetrack anyway.  The question of traction off the line was introduced and I stated my opinion.

The EVO and STi come from rally heritage where AWD is important.  I can't think of a single person who is going to buy a $45,000 dollar car, then blast down a gravel, muddy road--unless they are a sponored rally team.

As for overall vehicle driving feel and fun factor, I'd rather have RWD only.

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Wish the MS3 was $29,995 with an AWD version for $31,995.

With some clever deal making you can get the MS3 for $30k.  That's not much lower than the msrp.

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Re: 2008 Mitsubishi EVO X Canadian Specs
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2007, 06:03:34 pm »
F1 is intended to be raced on a controlled environment (except weather of course). The race tracks are smooth as silk. Drivers memorise each turn and corner of the tracks that there is no guessing work vs. Rally drivers. Also with racing slicks, traction is usually not an issue with F1 cars.
Any car can benefit from a good AWD system on our wonderfully well-funded road systems. Presuming the driver knows how to drive of course. AWD in the case for EVO and STi allows for maximum power delivery all the time not just at standing launch.