Topic: First Drive: 2008 Chevrolet Malibu

[ArticSteve]

So it ISN'T small-town courtesy to test-drive your competition's product with an open mind, but it IS small-town courtesy to go around, bashing their new product at every chance you get without ever sampling it first-hand?

 

Mitlov; this one will be a snap for ya. 
 
What does the retail car business and the American litigation industry have in common. 

They're both BLOOD SPORTS. 

[Dante]

Carcrazy were ya reading MOTOR TREND Upside down.... ...it's BETTER!!! that way...

 

[Mitlov]

So it ISN'T small-town courtesy to test-drive your competition's product with an open mind, but it IS small-town courtesy to go around, bashing their new product at every chance you get without ever sampling it first-hand?

 

Mitlov; this one will be a snap for ya. 
 
What does the retail car business and the American litigation industry have in common. 

They're both BLOOD SPORTS. 

   Then maybe you should have said "I have no interest in test-driving the Malibu because I'll spew the same self-interested propaganda regardless of what I personally think of it" instead of saying "I won't test-drive the Malibu because of small-town courtesy." 

[EDIT: Before you blow another forehead artery, those are paraphrases, not verbatim quotes.]

[Ex-airbalancer]

Artic, whazzamatter, the local GM dealer has banned you from setting foot on the lot and doing test drives now?  (don't blame 'em!)

The thing about small towns and the OS certainly qualifies, is that unlike the urban jungle we don't kick our comrades when they're down and they IS way down at the momento. 

So it ISN'T small-town courtesy to test-drive your competition's product with an open mind, but it IS small-town courtesy to go around, bashing their new product at every chance you get without ever sampling it first-hand?



Strange small town you live in.

Owen Sound appeared to be nice town
But he sounds like a  car salesperson, they will not go and personal check out other brands, they will give them a  without even driving one

[rrocket]

I'm kinda in the same boat...I REALLY like the new Malibu.  ALOT.  But I'm so gun-shy from all the problems we've had with our GM and the quality problems in general from GM that I really can't consider buying one.  Our current car has just been to costly with too many problems for us to "trust" GM with a sale again....

It sure looks like GM is trying a turn around...but until I see 3 and 5 year reliability stuides on this new crop of cars..I have to stay away...

[ArticSteve]

   Then maybe you should have said "I have no interest in test-driving the Malibu because I'll spew the same self-interested propaganda regardless of what I personally think of it" instead of saying "I won't test-drive the Malibu because of small-town courtesy." 

[EDIT: Before you blow another forehead artery, those are paraphrases, not verbatim quotes.]

Dubya and the Dickster are huge on the paraphrase thingy.  It's rubbing off on you Mitty. 

[Mitlov]

Owen Sound appeared to be nice town
But he sounds like a  car salesperson, they will not go and personal check out other brands, they will give them a  without even driving one

Neither Cord nor JSCC engage in this sort of down-with-everyone-but-my-brand trolling, in my experience with them.  I'm not sure if there are any other car salesmen on this website, but those two certainly never behave like this.

[Ex-airbalancer]

Owen Sound appeared to be nice town
But he sounds like a  car salesperson, they will not go and personal check out other brands, they will give them a  without even driving one

Neither Cord nor JSCC engage in this sort of down-with-everyone-but-my-brand trolling, in my experience with them.  I'm not sure if there are any other car salesmen on this website, but those two certainly never behave like this.

These two gentleman are above our the typical car salemen

[ArticSteve]

Neither Cord nor JSCC engage in this sort of down-with-everyone-but-my-brand trolling, in my experience with them.  I'm not sure if there are any other car salesmen on this website, but those two certainly never behave like this.

down-with-everyone-but-my-brand trolling

Someone posts the edmond's review and I'm trolling.     Continue the personal attacks Mitlov, it's right up your alley. 

[ArticSteve]

These two gentleman are above our the typical car salemen

 

[Cortina]

Someone posts the edmond's review.

  Your wish is my command. How about a Comparison Test: 2007-2008 V6 Family Sedans.

 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123842?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..3.*

Honda still come out on top against the Camry,Malibu, Altima.

[Seafoam]

Someone posts the edmond's review.

  Your wish is my command. How about a Comparison Test: 2007-2008 V6 Family Sedans.

 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123842?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..3.*

Honda still come out on top against the Camry,Malibu, Altima.

"Honda sales guy" is going to love that one.

[dougjp]

Owen Sound appeared to be nice town
But he sounds like a  car salesperson, they will not go and personal check out other brands, they will give them a  without even driving one

Neither Cord nor JSCC engage in this sort of down-with-everyone-but-my-brand trolling, in my experience with them.  I'm not sure if there are any other car salesmen on this website, but those two certainly never behave like this.

These two gentleman are above our the typical car salesmen

Yup, get a whif of 'em - turn around and leave.... fast! 

[Wetson]

Do I have to make Mitlov & Artic stand in the corner?

[tpl]

yes. please do that Wetson. 

[ArticSteve]

Someone posts the edmond's review.

  Your wish is my command. How about a Comparison Test: 2007-2008 V6 Family Sedans.

 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123842?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..3.*

Honda still come out on top against the Camry,Malibu, Altima.

Well I actually said this, "Someone posts the edmond's review and I'm trolling".  But I'm good to go on your link. 

Even in routine driving, the Camry's soft ride and deliberate chassis responses make it feel poorly controlled, as if it's wallowing down the road. Similarly, the Camry's steering is reasonably precise, yet it feels almost completely numb. The result is a limp driving character that seems even more pronounced in contrast to the far more engaging personalities of its rivals. The Malibu in particular demonstrates that body control and a compliant ride are not mutually exclusive.

Well what a SURPRISE !!!! That is exactly why ppl buy the XLE; to float down the road just like Buicks used to. 

However, what EDMONDS OMMITS to tell the twits good ppl that rely on their expertise  is that for handling Toyota offers the SE whose suspension is tighter than all 3 competitors x2

Then you floor the throttle and the Camry aims to erase these impressions, flinging itself to the quarter-mile mark in 14.9 seconds at 96.4 mph, quicker and faster than any other car in this test. Its 268-hp V6 and six-speed automatic combine to deliver a sweet powertrain, with plenty of power everywhere in the rev range and a willingness to flex its muscles even during routine driving. Several times we found ourselves remarking that the Camry's chassis is almost comically overshadowed by the refined performance of this V6.

HAHAHA read that and weep have a cookie. 

On the OTHER HAND     The Malibu's six-speed automatic transmission garners some black marks from us due to its lazy part-throttle calibration, which dulls the engine's potency. Top gear is summoned at every opportunity, and the gearbox doggedly refuses to downshift in a timely fashion. This is clearly a measure to enhance fuel economy, yet it also gives the car a sluggish disposition around town despite the V6's respectably broad power band.
 

And GM is going to stick that tranny on it's Cobalt 4 banger.   

[drederick]

Someone posts the edmond's review.

  Your wish is my command. How about a Comparison Test: 2007-2008 V6 Family Sedans.

 http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123842?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..3.*

Honda still come out on top against the Camry,Malibu, Altima.

Well I actually said this, "Someone posts the edmond's review and I'm trolling".  But I'm good to go on your link. 

Even in routine driving, the Camry's soft ride and deliberate chassis responses make it feel poorly controlled, as if it's wallowing down the road. Similarly, the Camry's steering is reasonably precise, yet it feels almost completely numb. The result is a limp driving character that seems even more pronounced in contrast to the far more engaging personalities of its rivals. The Malibu in particular demonstrates that body control and a compliant ride are not mutually exclusive.

Well what a SURPRISE !!!! That is exactly why ppl buy the XLE; to float down the road just like Buicks used to. 

However, what EDMONDS OMMITS to tell the twits good ppl that rely on their expertise  is that for handling Toyota offers the SE whose suspension is tighter than all 3 competitors x2

Then you floor the throttle and the Camry aims to erase these impressions, flinging itself to the quarter-mile mark in 14.9 seconds at 96.4 mph, quicker and faster than any other car in this test. Its 268-hp V6 and six-speed automatic combine to deliver a sweet powertrain, with plenty of power everywhere in the rev range and a willingness to flex its muscles even during routine driving. Several times we found ourselves remarking that the Camry's chassis is almost comically overshadowed by the refined performance of this V6.

HAHAHA read that and weep have a cookie. 

On the OTHER HAND     The Malibu's six-speed automatic transmission garners some black marks from us due to its lazy part-throttle calibration, which dulls the engine's potency. Top gear is summoned at every opportunity, and the gearbox doggedly refuses to downshift in a timely fashion. This is clearly a measure to enhance fuel economy, yet it also gives the car a sluggish disposition around town despite the V6's respectably broad power band.
 

And GM is going to stick that tranny on it's Cobalt 4 banger.   

artic when oh when will you stop with your stupidity? when it comes down to it they are all great cars - Malibu, Accord, Camry, Sonata.

Just because you cannot even fathom a car from GM being good doesn't make it untrue.

Just read this review just posted today from this site about the base Malibu and tell me what exactly is wrong:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/mc/08malibu.htm

seems like they liked it pretty well.... and considering you haven't driven it at all SHUT UP already.

And, EDMONDS had the following to say about your 'better than the Earth it drives on Camry':

On the other hand, the Camry is just a mess. The engine is a marvel of power-to-fuel-economy ratio, but it's attached to a car completely unprepared for that much gusto. While the Altima's steering is light and communicative, the Camry's is light and clueless. The suspension clop-clops over bumpy roads, and the chassis feels just a hair more solid than linguini al dente. Plus, the interior isn't particularly impressive. Like Dancing with the Stars, I don't get why America loves the thing so much.


ha ha ha mess mess mess

[ArticSteve]

Dude; I just cut and pasted from the Edmond's article someone else posted.  It's what they said, not me. 

Then you floor the throttle and the Camry aims to erase these impressions, flinging itself to the quarter-mile mark in 14.9 seconds at 96.4 mph, quicker and faster than any other car in this test. Its 268-hp V6 and six-speed automatic combine to deliver a sweet powertrain, with plenty of power everywhere in the rev range and a willingness to flex its muscles even during routine driving. Several times we found ourselves remarking that the Camry's chassis is almost comically overshadowed by the refined performance of this V6.

On the OTHER HAND     The Malibu's six-speed automatic transmission garners some black marks from us due to its lazy part-throttle calibration, which dulls the engine's potency. Top gear is summoned at every opportunity, and the gearbox doggedly refuses to downshift in a timely fashion. This is clearly a measure to enhance fuel economy, yet it also gives the car a sluggish disposition around town despite the V6's respectably broad power band.

[barrie1]

Thats hard to believe coming from you and the BS you have been spewing for months on here. People like you give the Used Car business a very dirty Name as just about 0000 you say can't  be trusted. Even Lawyers are higher rated then what you do as you admitted that its a blood sport for used car dealers like you, why because they can lie and cheat all the clients they can. You fit the mold perfectly.  Since when did you take anything in other then a high milage used import cars. You have No knowledge of the GM products at all but still tell us all the lies you can about them. Glad I don't do any business with you and I am surprised you haven't been run out of town on a rail yet. Thats probably coming as you do a great dishonour to your town by your behavior on here as well as what you say in business by your own admissions. 

[ArticSteve]

I think you've had enough for tonight.