Topic: BMW 1 Series

[davidm]

Wow, the 128i Cabrio is the best priced of all!!! If you compare the markup from 3-Series Coupé to Cabriolet (328i $13,000 - $56,500, 335i $15,000 - $66,500) then compare the premium for the 1-Series (128i $6,000 - $39,900, 135i $5,500 - $47,200) it's pretty appealing. Certainly the lowest priced of the 'pretige' import brands - only Eos is lower at $37,175, A4 Cabrio $52,9, Saab 9-3 $54,4, C70 $56,8, SLK $60,5. Hell MINI Cooper S Convertible is $36,5. For small people  wanting a BMW it offers great value.

Cloth vs power hardtop makes the costs involved a lot less than the 3-series, Eos, C70, and SLK.  Feature for feature, better start adding the options to compare with the A4 Cabrio and the Mini.

Given my addition before, this car will be $50k before taxes with the options and freight/PDI, etc.

[sirAQUAMAN64]

Wow, the 128i Cabrio is the best priced of all!!! If you compare the markup from 3-Series Coupé to Cabriolet (328i $13,000 - $56,500, 335i $15,000 - $66,500) then compare the premium for the 1-Series (128i $6,000 - $39,900, 135i $5,500 - $47,200) it's pretty appealing. Certainly the lowest priced of the 'pretige' import brands - only Eos is lower at $37,175, A4 Cabrio $52,9, Saab 9-3 $54,4, C70 $56,8, SLK $60,5. Hell MINI Cooper S Convertible is $36,5. For small people  wanting a BMW it offers great value.

Cloth vs power hardtop makes the costs involved a lot less than the 3-series, Eos, C70, and SLK.  Feature for feature, better start adding the options to compare with the A4 Cabrio and the Mini.

Given my addition before, this car will be $50k before taxes with the options and freight/PDI, etc.

Forgot about it being a cloth top vs the 3er, but still. The Mini and A4 are cloth too.

All cars have options + Freight/PDI and taxes. Such is life. Think one could live comfortably with a base 128i.

[davidm]

Looks like you can add performance bits to your heart's content while keeping warrenty.  Don't see them selling any lightness yet - ($999 - we yank out the carpeting, AC, radio, and all the other &$^% that slows the car down  ).


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/29/official-bmw-1-series-performance-catalog-leaks-out/

fficial BMW 1-series performance catalog leaks out
from Autoblog by Damon Lavrinc

Filed under: Aftermarket, Tuners, Coupes, BMW

Click above for a gallery of pics.

The numero-uno forum for all things 1-series got a hold of BMW's brochure for its upcoming line of performance parts, and as suspected, much of the kit originally seen on the tii concept will be available through authorized BMW dealers.

The photos we posted last week of the modified 1-series show the same car displayed in the brochure. Unfortunately, the text is in German, but Google's translation software is here to help.

Aside from some aerodynamic body panels that are visible in the pictures, well-to-do customizers can upgrade the front brakes of their 1-series with six-piston yellow calipers squeezing 325mm drilled and slotted rotors, while two-piston calipers in the rear grab onto 320mm rotors. Three different wheel choices frame those new yellow binders, ranging from 18x7.5-inches all the way up to 19x9 inch rollers, while a new dampers, springs, stabilizer and strut tower bars are available to keep things planted at all four corners.

While we don't see an optional ECU upgrade mentioned in the brochure, BMW will be offering a new intake setup and a full exhaust to ease breathing duties, and a new short shifter supposedly reduces throws by 25-percent over its stock counterpart.

Inside, there's plenty of carbon fiber, aluminum and Alcantara accoutrements that can be applied throughout the interior, and those sports seats we've been drooling over will be available as well. The big question, however, is what's going on with the steering wheel. At the 12 o'clock position is an LCD screen that can be controlled via the two buttons flanking its sides. The display can act as a stopwatch, able to keep track of 10 different laps down to 1/100 of a second, and can record 1/8- and 1/4-mile times, saving them for later viewing, along with keeping tabs on the engine temp, positive, negative and lateral g's.

You can check out some of the pics in the gallery below.

Top tip Jack!

[Source: 1addicts]

[davidm]

Wow, the 128i Cabrio is the best priced of all!!! If you compare the markup from 3-Series Coupé to Cabriolet (328i $13,000 - $56,500, 335i $15,000 - $66,500) then compare the premium for the 1-Series (128i $6,000 - $39,900, 135i $5,500 - $47,200) it's pretty appealing. Certainly the lowest priced of the 'pretige' import brands - only Eos is lower at $37,175, A4 Cabrio $52,9, Saab 9-3 $54,4, C70 $56,8, SLK $60,5. Hell MINI Cooper S Convertible is $36,5. For small people  wanting a BMW it offers great value.

Cloth vs power hardtop makes the costs involved a lot less than the 3-series, Eos, C70, and SLK.  Feature for feature, better start adding the options to compare with the A4 Cabrio and the Mini.

Given my addition before, this car will be $50k before taxes with the options and freight/PDI, etc.

Forgot about it being a cloth top vs the 3er, but still. The Mini and A4 are cloth too.

All cars have options + Freight/PDI and taxes. Such is life. Think one could live comfortably with a base 128i.

The A4 and Mini S soft tops have many more std features than the 128i, that said, so do their tintop comparables so the comment on the delta is still true.

[rrocket]

If you want power, Dinan will be the place to go.  Their ECU/Injector package (335i) for $2000 retains factory warranty and you end up with this

Peak Horsepower:           384 @ 5700 rpm
Peak Torque:                   421 lb-ft @ 4300 rpm


In the 1 Series, that would be crazy.....

[tpl]

I know that BMW USA accepts Dinan tuning under warranty but does BMW Canada ?

[dave]

I know that BMW USA accepts Dinan tuning under warranty but does BMW Canada ?

Yes, we investigated some Dinan mods for the 645Ci before papa bear went with the M6.  Mods were covered.

[DriverJeff]

I know that BMW USA accepts Dinan tuning under warranty but does BMW Canada ?

Yes, we investigated some Dinan mods for the 645Ci before papa bear went with the M6.  Mods were covered.

...but will any such investigations be going on for the M6 too?    500 hp is so 2007 these days.   

[JSCC]

I know that BMW USA accepts Dinan tuning under warranty but does BMW Canada ?

Yes, we investigated some Dinan mods for the 645Ci before papa bear went with the M6.  Mods were covered.

...but will any such investigations be going on for the M6 too?    500 hp is so 2007 these days.   

V10 Twin-turbo 580HP+ sounds good?

[Wolfe]

I know that BMW USA accepts Dinan tuning under warranty but does BMW Canada ?

Yes, we investigated some Dinan mods for the 645Ci before papa bear went with the M6.  Mods were covered.

...but will any such investigations be going on for the M6 too?    500 hp is so 2007 these days.   

Yeah, you'll need at least 600-700hp to clear the trees.

http://www.canadiandriver.com/forum/index.php/topic,56100.msg474965.html#msg474965

[Ex-airbalancer]

price list http://nudehacker.org/135i%20Coupe%20Price.PDF

[dave]

Confirmed lease and finance rates:

7.75% lease rate
6.75% finance rate

Huge kick in the pants.   

That 328i coupe is looking pretty reasonable now...

[tpl]

Confirmed lease and finance rates:

7.75% lease rate
6.75% finance rate

Huge kick in the pants.   

That 328i coupe is looking pretty reasonable now...

So.... borrow from your secured home line of credit which OUGHT to be no more than prime + 1%, which tomorrow should be 0.5% cheaper than today.

[Triple Bob]

Confirmed lease and finance rates:

7.75% lease rate
6.75% finance rate

Huge kick in the pants.   

That 328i coupe is looking pretty reasonable now...

So.... borrow from your secured home line of credit which OUGHT to be no more than prime + 1%, which tomorrow should be 0.5% cheaper than today.

Or home equity, it will NEVER run out!!

 

[dorin]

So.... borrow from your secured home line of credit which OUGHT to be no more than prime + 1%, which tomorrow should be 0.5% cheaper than today.

That's assuming that the 0.5% cut will translate through to bank prime.  The last cut was eaten up by the banks to make up for their sub-prime losses. 

[Cord]

So.... borrow from your secured home line of credit which OUGHT to be no more than prime + 1%, which tomorrow should be 0.5% cheaper than today.

That's assuming that the 0.5% cut will translate through to bank prime.  The last cut was eaten up by the banks to make up for their sub-prime losses. 

Not at BMO it wasn't. 6.0% dropped to 5.75%. I'm sure every major bank did the same.

edit: Here's a CBC article from Jan 22/08: http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/01/22/bankofcanada.html

Prime rate drops to 5.75%
Prime lending rates quickly began dropping at the banks. Royal Bank was the first to announce it would lower its prime rate by a quarter of a percentage point to 5.75 per cent. TD Bank, CIBC and Scotiabank followed soon after. The prime rate is the rate banks charge on loans to their best customers.

[tpl]

The really good trick is to get the Home equity credit line at prime + 0.   Working for one of the big banks for a couple of decades helps.

[DriverJeff]

Confirmed lease and finance rates:

7.75% lease rate
6.75% finance rate

Huge kick in the pants.   

That 328i coupe is looking pretty reasonable now...

Comparing apples-to-apples in equipment levels though, a 328i sedan looks to be a much better deal.  I don't know that the sexy styling of the coupe are worth nearly $100/mo extra in a lease!

[dave]

You're right Vman.  I'm definitely not going to borrow money to buy this car.  No sense in digging deep for a luxury item that I'll lose money on.

BMW just dropped the 3 series rates to 3.9% lease, 2.9% finance.

GD, a sedan?  You ARE getting old 

I'm going in to meet with my friendly neighbour BMW sales associate soon to see what kind of a bar-goon I get on a 3 series.  People at e90 post have been getting 5% off MRSP.

[evil_twin]

To top things off BMW lowered the rates on the 3 coupes to 2.9% and 3.9% for financing and leasing, respectively. (Down from 3.9 and 4.9%).

So the lease payments for a comparably equipped 135i and 335i coupe are almost identical.

I still think the 135i is a great car...but unless you're paying cash, lookout.


Re: Borrowing money to buy a car.  It depends on the situation and the market really.  If you're going to be buying a depreciating luxury item (like a nice car), it's not necessarily a bad idea to do it when the market is sinking (aka. now).  That is to say, your money isn't going to be doing you much good in your investments right now as it is.  So if you're going to be taking funds from your investments and putting it into depreciating assests...might as well do it now when the difference is minimized.

That being said, the best the economic move is always to not buy the nice car (or any car for that matter), save your pennies for a rainy day, and dump whatever you're left with at the end of your life on your kids.....and then they can repeat cycle.


However, I like nice cars.

...screw my unborn offspring.