Topic: BMW 1 Series

[dr_spock]

Is it me or does it has a hint of an Accent shape?

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/hl/images/03accent_1.jpg

[Snowman]

  Its you.

[Mitlov]

Its you.

[Ex-airbalancer]

The straight six-cylinder petrol engine.
BMW engines stand for performance, power and dynamics - and the straight six petrol engine in the BMW 130i is no exception. This engine is the most powerful one in the 1 Series range, delivering 195 kW (261 bhp) with a 0 to 100 km/h time of 6.1 seconds and a top speed of 250 km/h. It's the sportiest way to enjoy the BMW 1 Series.

The four-cylinder diesel engines.
The BMW 120d makes an impression within seconds - 7.9 of them to be precise. That's how long it takes this common rail diesel to go from 0 to 100 km/h. Its 120 kW (163 bhp) and 340 Nm of torque ensure rapid acceleration and responsive performance. Athleticism and efficiency are the hallmarks of the BMW 118d. Despite its 90 kW (122 bhp), 280 Nm of torque and top speed of 201 km/h, it offers fuel consumption of just 5.6 litres per 100 km. A particle filter that complies with EU4 emissions regulations is available as an option for all diesel models.

Four-cylinder petrol engines.
Impressive torque and supreme smoothness - the hallmarks of outstanding engines are clearly evident in the BMW 1 Series. The high-performance four-cylinder petrol engine in the BMW 120i and 118i uses double-Vanos technology and Valvetronic, which reaches an output of 110 kW (150 bhp) and a top speed of 217 km/h in the 120i. Double-Vanos is also built into the responsive 116i engine, which can deliver 85 kW (115 bps) and reach up to 200 km/h.

Take your pick

[sirAQUAMAN64]

This thing u'll be haut.

[Wolverine]

That's the only BMW I really dislike. We have some of those here in town, to me, it's overpriced (well, every car is overpriced here, mainly when they are imported...)

[mmret]

The four-cylinder diesel engines.
The BMW 120d makes an impression within seconds - 7.9 of them to be precise. That's how long it takes this common rail diesel to go from 0 to 100 km/h. Its 120 kW (163 bhp) and 340 Nm of torque ensure rapid acceleration and responsive performance.

:cool:

340Nm = 250lbft, thats plenty.

[Triple Bob]

The straight six-cylinder petrol engine.
BMW engines stand for performance, power and dynamics - and the straight six petrol engine in the BMW 130i is no exception. This engine is the most powerful one in the 1 Series range, delivering 195 kW (261 bhp) with a 0 to 100 km/h time of 6.1 seconds and a top speed of 250 km/h. It's the sportiest way to enjoy the BMW 1 Series.

Yeah, wait 'til you see the price, I bet a corvette is cheaper! 

[tpl]

Unlikely. The cheapest corvette here is $68500 cdn   and then plus 14% tax to get to $78000.

Not allowing for any discounts.

A BMW 1series will have to fit below a base 335i to be marketable so that gives it a maximum of $57K cdn Including taxes. I bet the most expensive 1-series that we will be able to get will be under $50k on the road.

[Mitlov]

A BMW 1series will have to fit below a base 335i to be marketable

In my mind, a base 1-series will have to fit below a base 3-series, not just a 335i, to be marketable.  And it would have to undercut a base 3-series by several thousand dollars.

[mmret]

A BMW 1series will have to fit below a base 335i to be marketable

In my mind, a base 1-series will have to fit below a base 3-series, not just a 335i, to be marketable.  And it would have to undercut a base 3-series by several thousand dollars.

Agree, assuming they ditch the 323 it will still have to come in well under 328 price to really be considered.

It's going to lose a lot of snob appeal being a "cheapened" 3-Series, and pricing will have to reflect that.

[Mitlov]

Agree, assuming they ditch the 323 it will still have to come in well under 328 price to really be considered.

It's going to lose a lot of snob appeal being a "cheapened" 3-Series, and pricing will have to reflect that.

I think it would make the most sense to offer the "23" engine as the base engine in the 1-series, and make the "28" engine the base engine for the 3-series (like it already is in the States).  That will help keep even the base 3-series a bit more prestigious than the 1-series, and will also help keep base-engined 1-series prices down.

[mmret]

Agree, assuming they ditch the 323 it will still have to come in well under 328 price to really be considered.

It's going to lose a lot of snob appeal being a "cheapened" 3-Series, and pricing will have to reflect that.

I think it would make the most sense to offer the "23" engine as the base engine in the 1-series, and make the "28" engine the base engine for the 3-series (like it already is in the States).  That will help keep even the base 3-series a bit more prestigious than the 1-series, and will also help keep base-engined 1-series prices down.

As long as they offer the diesel, its all good.

[initial_D]

There has to be an entry level 3-series for the badge happy shoppers. Too bad current market and buyers' mindset won't allow BMW to sell a stripper performance oriented 1 series car in NA.

The 3 series is doing mighty fine in both the US and Canada, it would be very foolish for NA BMW Execs to make changes to the current line up and hoping for potential 1 series buyers.

[Triple Bob]

The 3 series is doing mighty fine in both the US and Canada, it would be very foolish for NA BMW Execs to make changes to the current line up and hoping for potential 1 series buyers.

Same in Europe before they released the 1 series... 

[JSCC]

Price range and trim levels should be in-line with C30/A3/B-Class

[initial_D]

The 3 series is doing mighty fine in both the US and Canada, it would be very foolish for NA BMW Execs to make changes to the current line up and hoping for potential 1 series buyers.

Same in Europe before they released the 1 series... 

So the 3-series line up changed after the introduction in EuroLand?

[Mitlov]

There has to be an entry level 3-series for the badge happy shoppers.

BMW is doing just fine in the US without a 323i.  All we've got is the 328i, 335i, and M3, and before that we had 325i, 330i, and M3.  I'd imagine that BMW Canada would also drop the 323i with the advent of the 1-series, and I don't see that BMW would suffer as a consequence.

[initial_D]

The US 328i starts at $32,500 USD, us Canucks have the 323i starting at $35,600, the 328i starts at $41,000. Theoretically, you can get a 323i outta door for under $40,000 with a bit of options. It would be nice if BMW Canada can offer a lesser model of the 328i around $36,500. Don't know what is the optional equipment differences between the 328i model on both sides of the border, but would be nice if we can buy a 328i starting at $32,500 USD here as well.

Somehow, I got the feeling that most North American buyers will want more car for their money, as in a bigger size car, with options  A stripper down 1 series with good pricing won't attract a lot of buyers here.

[mmret]

The US 328i starts at $32,500 USD, us Canucks have the 323i starting at $35,600, the 328i starts at $41,000. Theoretically, you can get a 323i outta door for under $40,000 with a bit of options. It would be nice if BMW Canada can offer a lesser model of the 328i around $36,500. Don't know what is the optional equipment differences between the 328i model on both sides of the border, but would be nice if we can buy a 328i starting at $32,500 USD here as well.

The base US 328i is also packing a lot more features that are optional on the Canadian version, if I recall correctly.

Another case of [Manufacturer] of Canada screwing us over?