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Re: Toyota #1 Worldwide in Q1
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2007, 09:21:04 pm »
I will be right behind you, Snowy, cheering if Ford and GM can turn their situations around AND consistently provide high quality, efficient, reliable cars. I have little use for any of their current offerings, however, and have been disgusted with their apparent "build crap - they will buy it anyway" attitude. IF any of the (Big?) 3 manufacturers can provide a competitive product in the segment I prefer, I will not look off-shore. BTW, a re-badged Daewoo will NEVER be on my list of possible purchases.  :P
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Unfortunately they have a long uphill struggle.  Even if they started tomorrow, its going to take years to rebuild the reputation of quality. With toyota it was 'slow and steady' wins the race.

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Re: Toyota #1 Worldwide in Q1
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2007, 10:42:36 pm »
Regarding Toyota's employment of North American workers as the Big Three lay off North American workers:

(1)  How do Toyota benefits (pension, health plans, etc) compare with those of the UAW Big Three workers, especially when the Toyota auto workers age and retire?

(2)  If they are as good as the UAW, how does Toyota seek to avoid the high benefits costs that some claim have doomed the Big Three?

These aren't leading questions: I don't know the answer.

US Toyota’s hourly wages are only 13% lower than GM’s, Toyota’s labor force is smaller, younger, and healthier. Toyota, having only begun producing vehicles in the United States in 1986, also has but a handful of retirees – 1600 to be precise. In contrast, GM has 460,000 retirees whose needs along with those of their families raise the total hourly labor cost for a GM worker to $73, an amount 52% more than an hourly worker cost US Toyota. 

(2)  If they are as good as the UAW, how does Toyota seek to avoid the high benefits costs that some claim have doomed the Big Three?

Productivity and smarter allocation of healthcare resources or locating in Canada.  :) 

  GM runs less efficient production lines, taking 34 hours to make a vehicle to Toyota’s 28. Instead of closing the gap, GM is falling further behind, as Toyota is making faster efficiency gains than GM. GM operates at 85% capacity, while Toyota is running at 107% capacity

Biggest factor:  Unlike the domestics, Toyota can fire on the spot all the losers and slackers that permeate auto unions operations and are the very ones that often suck the company dry in retirement. 

« Last Edit: April 25, 2007, 10:45:57 pm by articsteve »

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Re: Toyota #1 Worldwide in Q1
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2007, 12:40:41 am »
Biggest factor:  Unlike the domestics, Toyota can fire on the spot all the losers and slackers that permeate auto unions operations and are the very ones that often suck the company dry in retirement

Doesn't every retired worker "suck the company dry" in the same way?  Or at least, the amount they "suck the company dry" has nothing to do with the work ethic?  (i.e., health problems are not linked to being a "loser" or "slacker").

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Re: Toyota #1 Worldwide in Q1
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2007, 12:53:16 am »
Biggest factor:  Unlike the domestics, Toyota can fire on the spot all the losers and slackers that permeate auto unions operations and are the very ones that often suck the company dry in retirement

Doesn't every retired worker "suck the company dry" in the same way?  Or at least, the amount they "suck the company dry" has nothing to do with the work ethic?  (i.e., health problems are not linked to being a "loser" or "slacker").

You assume less than stellar union workers don't fake chronic injuries and are on and off the job endlessly.  Oh my aching back (my golf game is killing me), I can't stop drinking on weekends, I have a drug dependency, I'm a smoker.  Who pays for that?  More importantly, who can stop it?
« Last Edit: April 26, 2007, 12:55:38 am by articsteve »

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Re: Toyota #1 Worldwide in Q1
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2007, 01:02:35 am »
You assume less than stellar union workers don't fake chronic injuries and are on and off the job endlessly.  Oh my aching back (my golf game is killing me), I can't stop drinking on weekends, I have a drug dependency, I'm a smoker.  Who pays for that?  More importantly, who can stop it?

...and then there are folks like my uncle, a hard-working unionized truck driver who happened to have gotten diagnosed with cancer recently.

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Re: Toyota #1 Worldwide in Q1
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Re: Toyota #1 Worldwide in Q1
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2007, 02:42:33 pm »
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070426/AUTO01/704260394/1148
GM boss vows fight for sales

In e-mail to top officials, Wagoner touts long-term strategies, attributes Toyota's gain to reduced fleet sales.

David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau

General Motors Chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner told senior executives the company hasn't given up the fight despite being outpaced by Toyota in global sales in the first quarter of the year.

"We still have the majority of the year in front of us, and we will fight hard for every sale -- all the while staying focused on our long-term goals as a global, growing company," he told high-level company officials in an e-mail Tuesday shortly after Toyota's sales numbers were released.

Wagoner said GM was surpassed by Toyota largely because of its move to reduce unprofitable sales to fleet customers and the fact that Toyota crushes GM in sales in Japan.

"Like many of you, I woke up to news reports today of Toyota passing GM in global sales in the first quarter this year, for the first time ever," Wagoner said in the e-mail obtained by The Detroit News. "I didn't welcome this morning's news, and I know you didn't either. But what's important is that we stay focused on implementing our business strategies around the globe, because they are working."

Officials within the company are trying to emphasize profitability over sales.

A strategy of reducing fleet sales "cost us about 70,000 units in lower daily rental sales in the U.S. and Canada in the first quarter this year nearly the entire amount of our global sales gap versus Toyota. But it was the right thing to do. Our sales and marketing strategy requires patience, but it's working, and we need to stick with it," Wagoner wrote.

Reached Wednesday, GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz offered a curt response to Toyota's outpacing GM in the first three months of the year: "My reaction is 'So what?' "

GM has been the worldwide leader in auto sales since 1931, when it surpassed Ford Motor Co.

GM sold 9.1 million vehicles in 2006 worldwide, down from 9.17 million in 2005, reporting a net loss of $2 billion, narrowing its $10.4 billion loss in 2005.

Toyota sold 8.8 million vehicles in 2006, up 8 percent and earned more than $11 billion in its last fiscal year. The company said it expects to sell 9.34 million vehicles this year. GM hasn't disclosed what it expects to sell.

In his e-mail, Wagoner noted that GM outsells Toyota in 12 of the 15 top auto markets worldwide, and still outsold Toyota by 1.5 million units in the United States in 2006.

"One question is where did Toyota pass us in sales? Basically, Toyota beats us badly in their home market of Japan (by 2.4 million units on an annual basis), and we win in most other markets," he wrote.


He also noted that GM is "staying focused on further reducing our still huge health care cost disadvantage versus Toyota and other non-U.S. based manufacturers."

Toyota lobbies D.C. harder

On Wednesday, Toyota stepped up its lobbying efforts in Washington, emphasizing its investment in the U.S. at a time when some company officials fear a backlash.

Some 100 U.S. Toyota employees -- including assistant regional managers, plant executives and financial executives -- fanned out on Capitol Hill to take part in a prescheduled "grassroots lobbying effort," spokeswoman Martha Voss said.

"They are here to touch base and say, 'We're here, we're from your district. Here's what kind of jobs and investments we have,' " Voss said, adding the timing had nothing to do with the sales milestone.

Toyota's lobbying efforts haven't gone unnoticed.

"They outspend us," Lutz said in January. "It is my considered opinion that Toyota has more clout in Washington than we do."

At the same time, an issue domestic automakers have been complaining loudly about is the value of the Japanese yen.

President Bush is set to meet with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe today and Friday.

Automakers argue Japanese currency "manipulation" unfairly gives Toyota, Honda and Nissan up to a $4,000 per vehicle subsidy, by making American cars more expensive in Japan and Japanese imports less expensive here. Japan and Japanese automakers reject the charge.

Two-thirds of the U.S. $88 billion trade deficit with Japan is auto-related.

Japan subsidy edge touted

Last month, U.S. Sen. Debbie Stabenow, D-Lansing, introduced a bill dubbed the Japanese Currency Manipulation Act, which would force Japan's government "to take action to stop subsidizing millions of auto exports to the U.S. by bringing its currency into proper alignment with the U.S. dollar," said a statement from the Automotive Trade Policy Council, a group representing GM, Ford and DaimlerChrysler AG.

The group says the subsidy provides a windfall that ranges up to "$10,000 per vehicle for higher-end Japanese imported SUVs such as those sold by Toyota under the Lexus brand."

National Security Council spokesman Dave McCormick defended the administration's approach and said Wednesday that "we look to have open markets in all areas, and are focused on continuing to find ways for Japan to open up its markets, particularly for foreign investment in the automotive sector."
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Re: Toyota #1 Worldwide in Q1
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2007, 03:11:30 pm »
 #1 OR #2 we KNOWS tha DIFFERENCE.................... :shuffle: