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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #461 on: July 28, 2010, 04:34:05 pm »
Toyota and Nissan have tried to take on GM and Ford, head to head with large V-8 trucks, and both have failed.  I know many tradespeople that would like a Tundra, but the high prices keep them in their Sierra or F150.

I know Titan sales are up, but even at 35,000 units (US 2008) that's a dismal drop in the bucket of truck sales.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/05/nissan-titan-production-jumps.html

Remember the awesome I-4 4X4 Toyota trucks of the mid to late 80's?  Where is the modern version of that?  Are people just to big and too in love with V-8's to drive sales of those great little trucks now?

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Re: Toyota Tidbits
« Reply #462 on: July 28, 2010, 04:53:16 pm »
Maybe it was this sort of hubris and poor research that contributed to Toyota's fall from grace. Remember this?:

AUTOMOTIVE NEWS WORLD CONGRESS

Toyota's Lentz predicts industry boom by 2010

Ralph Kisiel  |   |  Automotive News / January 16, 2007 - 12:05 pm
 
DETROIT -- Toyota not only predicts a good year for itself but sees the auto industry on the cusp of a major turnaround.

Jim Lentz, executive vice president of Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. Inc., said today during the Automotive News World Congress that 2007 is going to be a "setup year" in which the industry will take time to reflect, reorganize and rededicate itself to customers.

Lentz called 2007 "the calm before the storm of enormous new growth."

Addressing the Detroit 3, Lentz said that Ford Motor Co., General Motors and the Chrysler group are taking "bold steps to restructure and redeploy resources around the world, and there are signs those measures are working."

"It will take some time," Lentz said, adding that Toyota firmly believes the Detroit 3 will bounce back and be successful.

"We see the potential for a run-up in sales each year as we approach 2010, leading to a major turnaround for the auto industry early in the next decade," Lentz said.

Specifically, he said, Toyota thinks it is possible for industry sales to grow by as much as 100,000 vehicles a year, eventually reaching 18 million in the next decade. In 2006, automakers sold 16.6 million vehicles in the United States.

Fueling Toyota's optimism is an incredible population boom, sound economic fundamentals and great products, he said.

Five generations

About 2011, the automotive industry will be serving five generations of customers, the newest being "Gen Z."

"It's hard to believe, but the oldest members of Gen Z are now 12 years old, just four years away from driving themselves," he said. Gen Z already is 48 million strong, a third larger than the population of California, Lentz said.

Lentz identified several trends that will help fuel this predicted turnaround.

A "new urbanism," an influx of mostly young professionals to major cities, will create a need for smaller, more efficient vehicles -- minicars, compact SUVs and compact luxury vehicles, Lentz said.

Another emerging trend is buyers who are living healthier lives and who are more conscious of the environment.

This means that Toyota and other automakers must create and market products that meet both green and conventional product needs, Lentz said.

"Hybrids certainly fit that bill but so do clean diesels, ethanol flex-fuel products and eventually fuel cells," he said.

Listen more

He concluded by recommending that the industry listen to customers.

"The more we listen, the more we'll learn about their needs, wants and desires for tomorrow," Lentz said. "Then we can design and build vehicles to meet those needs."

He pointed to the redesigned Toyota Tundra pickup that goes on sale in a few weeks. Toyota customers said they did not want a city truck, but a work truck. So Toyota sent its Japanese and American designers, engineers and product planners to construction sites, mining camps, ranches, truck stops and other work sites to find out what the customer wanted in a new Tundra.

Lentz said: "They did everything they could to live in the shoes of work customers and then used that knowledge in developing the next Tundra."

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #463 on: July 28, 2010, 05:40:24 pm »
Toyota and Nissan have tried to take on GM and Ford, head to head with large V-8 trucks, and both have failed.  I know many tradespeople that would like a Tundra, but the high prices keep them in their Sierra or F150.

I know Titan sales are up, but even at 35,000 units (US 2008) that's a dismal drop in the bucket of truck sales.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/05/nissan-titan-production-jumps.html

Remember the awesome I-4 4X4 Toyota trucks of the mid to late 80's?  Where is the modern version of that?  Are people just to big and too in love with V-8's to drive sales of those great little trucks now?


Why do you bring Nissan Titan in here? we all know it failed, all you guys have mentioned it enough time and time again.

As for Sierra and Ford, they are simply better trucks.

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #464 on: July 28, 2010, 05:51:06 pm »
I don't think the Titan was a failure.....I mean, it was a decent truck.  But I think anyone would be a fool to think that a Japanese truck (any Japanese truck) would outsell the American icons....

ANY non-American truck would be a sales failure...
How fast is my 911?  Supras sh*t on on me all the time...in reverse..with blown turbos  :( ...

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #465 on: July 28, 2010, 06:58:48 pm »
I don't think the Titan was a failure.....I mean, it was a decent truck.  But I think anyone would be a fool to think that a Japanese truck (any Japanese truck) would outsell the American icons....

ANY non-American truck would be a sales failure...

It's a case of both trucks coming out of the gate with many problems, doesn't inspire confidence.

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #466 on: July 31, 2010, 08:00:35 am »
Toyota tackles new Tundra trouble
Pickup beset by persistent glitches in drivetrain
Mark Rechtin
Automotive News -- July 26, 2010 - 12:01 am ET

LOS ANGELES -- Toyota is taking action to fix the latest in a series of quality problems related to the drivetrain of its full-sized Tundra pickup.

The company has released a technical service bulletin that covers the rear axles and differentials of 2007-10 model Tundras. Toyota describes the problem as a "growling noise" coming from the rear axle-shaft bearing.

The service bulletin says the problem could require the replacement of the entire axle shaft.

The noise often is a sign of wear on the rear-wheel bearing, which if it fails can result in a loss of steering control or the separation of the wheel from the vehicle.

About 500,000 Tundras have been built since 2007, when the vehicle was redesigned. All still fall under Toyota's powertrain warranty. There are no plans to extend the warranty on the affected vehicles.

Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons said the automaker has received "very few complaints" about the problem. He said the problem usually involves "tolerance stack-ups within the third member that usually are heard early on in the life cycle."

In 2008, a similar growling noise from the front differential of 4x4 Tundras was the focus of another technical service bulletin. In 2009, Toyota issued a bulletin conceding that Tundra automatic transmissions could slip out of gear because of clutch damage.

Also, a 2008 service bulletin noted that the truck's balky driveshaft could cause a "bump from behind" feeling during acceleration from a stop, but Tundra-follower Web sites reported that the problem could result in driveshaft separation at high speed.

According to a 2007 service bulletin, the torque converter was reported to have a "shudder."

Meanwhile, investigators continue to look for causes of uninintended acceleration on some Toyota vehicles. The company has issued recalls of millions of vehicles to fix sticking accelerator pedals and interference by floor mats that it concedes can cause the problem. Toyota says other possible explanations include driver error.

But the company says that after reviewing 3,000 complaints of unintended acceleration since March, it has found no evidence that electronic software glitches are the fault.

Separately, Toyota confirmed last week that it had been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury in the Southern District of New York concerning the recall of "defective, broken and/or fractured steering relay rods" in its vehicles.

Toyota would not say what vehicles are involved in the investigation, and the court did not provide additional information. In a statement, Toyota said it "intends to cooperate with the investigation."

In 2004, Toyota recalled trucks that had been built over a six-year period in Japan, citing steering rod flaws. U.S. executives told regulators at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that the recall was limited to Japan market vehicles.

But 12 months later, Toyota's U.S. operations recalled nearly 1 million compact pickups, T100 trucks and 4Runner SUVs for the same problem.


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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #467 on: July 31, 2010, 01:20:00 pm »
The cost is reflected in the resale

POINTLESS!!  The day you had enough and try trading on Sierra or Ford ;)


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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #468 on: July 31, 2010, 02:18:55 pm »
They spent a minimum of $3B on developing the new Tundra, then $1.3B on a new plant in Texas so they could sell 79000 Tundras last year?
Right, sure. Great Success!
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #470 on: September 11, 2010, 04:10:35 pm »
http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202471923871&Double_Screeeech_Ruling_Has_Toyota_Scrambling_in_Two_States

You also need to read some of the linked articles at the bottom of the story.

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #471 on: September 11, 2010, 08:07:57 pm »
They spent a minimum of $3B on developing the new Tundra, then $1.3B on a new plant in Texas so they could sell 79000 Tundras last year?
Right, sure. Great Success!

Nonsense, this is a success regardless of how many they sell. This is Toyota's first foray into the full size truck market...if you don't count the T100.

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #473 on: September 14, 2010, 11:57:09 am »
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/09/toyota-software-glitch-led-to-faulty-black-box-data/1

"Uchiyamada said in one instance, a Toyota Tundra that crashed into a tree was shown by the data recorder to be going 170 mph"

I want that Tundra!  :rofl2:

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #474 on: September 14, 2010, 01:52:48 pm »
For sure for sure the Tundra could not have travelled 170 mph...and for sure for sure the driver did not press the brake pedal. ;)

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #475 on: September 14, 2010, 01:58:14 pm »
For sure for sure the Tundra could not have travelled 170 mph...and for sure for sure the driver did not press the brake pedal. ;)

Just for giggles, I'm going to have to take mine out tonight and see what she'll do!  :rofl2: 
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #476 on: September 14, 2010, 09:26:07 pm »
They spent a minimum of $3B on developing the new Tundra, then $1.3B on a new plant in Texas so they could sell 79000 Tundras last year?
Right, sure. Great Success!

Need a link for your estimate, but the Texas plant is building the Taco which has just under 50% of the mid size truck market so hardly a waste of money.  So you consider 65 BILLION plus tax payer money going to GM and Chrysler a Great Sucess!  ???

4 dudes come to a 4 way stop exactly at the same time.  One in a Ram, another in a F150, another in a Chevy and then a Tundra; all identical trim levels.  Who proceeds first, besides the guy with the fastest unit ???

The correct answer is the guy driving the unit with the highest resale value and the vehicle that will last the longest with the least amount of repair.  HINT: he is also the guy that paid the most and usually can afford it.  :rofl2:

For your enjoyment ....

  During Operation Iraqi Freedom, and Operation Enduring Freedom, multiple Toyota Tacomas have been observed in use by special forces units of the U.S. Army. Typically, they have been Double Cab models, with SR5 and TRD packages.

Choice of Insurgents as well.  It seems that if you're risking your neck you leave the BIG 3 offerings to the 0 percenters.  :)


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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #477 on: September 14, 2010, 09:49:29 pm »
They spent a minimum of $3B on developing the new Tundra, then $1.3B on a new plant in Texas so they could sell 79000 Tundras last year?
Right, sure. Great Success!

Need a link for your estimate, but the Texas plant is building the Taco which has just under 50% of the mid size truck market so hardly a waste of money.  So you consider 65 BILLION plus tax payer money going to GM and Chrysler a Great Sucess!  ???

4 dudes come to a 4 way stop exactly at the same time.  One in a Ram, another in a F150, another in a Chevy and then a Tundra; all identical trim levels.  Who proceeds first, besides the guy with the fastest unit ???

The correct answer is the guy driving the unit with the highest resale value and the vehicle that will last the longest with the least amount of repair.  HINT: he is also the guy that paid the most and usually can afford it.  :rofl2:

For your enjoyment ....

  During Operation Iraqi Freedom, and Operation Enduring Freedom, multiple Toyota Tacomas have been observed in use by special forces units of the U.S. Army. Typically, they have been Double Cab models, with SR5 and TRD packages.

Choice of Insurgents as well.  It seems that if you're risking your neck you leave the BIG 3 offerings to the 0 percenters.  :)




Taco sales are irrelevant. Big Three sales or resale are irrelevant. The war in Afghanistan is irrelevant.

In addition, Toyota announced that production capacity, originally planned for 150,000 units per year, would be expanded to 200,000 units. This increase brought Toyota's investment in the plant to $1.2 Billion. Following four years of construction, the first new Tundra pickups rolled off the line in November 2006 during a grand-opening celebration which drew executives, employees and dealers of Toyota from around the country.[5] One Toyota executive went so far as to call the launch of the second-generation Tundra the 'single biggest and most important launch in Toyota's 50-year U.S. history.'[6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motor_Manufacturing_Texas

Toyota says $1.4B

http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/manufacturing/toyota-motor-manufacturing-texas-102057.aspx

:censor: poor sales of the Tundra are relevant to my post.

First Generation
2000   100,445
2001   108,863
2002   99,333
2003   101,316
2004   112,484
2005   126,529
2006   124,508

Second generation
2007   196,555
2008   137,249
2009   79,385



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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #478 on: September 15, 2010, 09:21:31 am »
 

Toyota tackles new Tundra trouble
Pickup beset by persistent glitches in drivetrain
Mark Rechtin
Automotive News | July 26, 2010 - 12:01 am EST

EDITOR'S NOTE: This story has been corrected to note that the service bulletin says the problem could require the replacement of the wheel bearing assembly.

LOS ANGELES -- Toyota is taking action to fix the latest in a series of quality problems related to the drivetrain of its full-sized Tundra pickup.

The company has released a technical service bulletin that covers the rear axles and differentials of 2007-10 model Tundras. Toyota describes the problem as a "growling noise" coming from the rear axle-shaft bearing.

The service bulletin says the problem could require the replacement of the wheel bearing assembly.

The noise often is a sign of wear on the rear-wheel bearing, which if it fails can result in a loss of steering control or the separation of the wheel from the vehicle.

About 500,000 Tundras have been built since 2007, when the vehicle was redesigned. All still fall under Toyota's powertrain warranty. There are no plans to extend the warranty on the affected vehicles.

Toyota spokesman Brian Lyons said the automaker has received "very few complaints" about the problem. He said the problem usually involves "tolerance stack-ups within the third member that usually are heard early on in the life cycle."

In 2008, a similar growling noise from the front differential of 4x4 Tundras was the focus of another technical service bulletin. In 2009, Toyota issued a bulletin conceding that Tundra automatic transmissions could slip out of gear because of clutch damage.

Also, a 2008 service bulletin noted that the truck's balky driveshaft could cause a "bump from behind" feeling during acceleration from a stop, but Tundra-follower Web sites reported that the problem could result in driveshaft separation at high speed.

According to a 2007 service bulletin, the torque converter was reported to have a "shudder."

Meanwhile, investigators continue to look for causes of uninintended acceleration on some Toyota vehicles. The company has issued recalls of millions of vehicles to fix sticking accelerator pedals and interference by floor mats that it concedes can cause the problem. Toyota says other possible explanations include driver error.

But the company says that after reviewing 3,000 complaints of unintended acceleration since March, it has found no evidence that electronic software glitches are the fault.

Separately, Toyota confirmed last week that it had been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury in the Southern District of New York concerning the recall of "defective, broken and/or fractured steering relay rods" in its vehicles.

Toyota would not say what vehicles are involved in the investigation, and the court did not provide additional information. In a statement, Toyota said it "intends to cooperate with the investigation."

In 2004, Toyota recalled trucks that had been built over a six-year period in Japan, citing steering rod flaws. U.S. executives told regulators at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that the recall was limited to Japan market vehicles.

But 12 months later, Toyota's U.S. operations recalled nearly 1 million compact pickups, T100 trucks and 4Runner SUVs for the same problem.



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A “growling noise” coming from the rear axle-shaft bearing is the latest quality problem to plague the Toyota Tundra.

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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #479 on: September 15, 2010, 09:25:33 am »
Toyota loses legal round on ruling that safety evidence was hidden
Neil Roland
Automotive News | September 14, 2010 - 1:01 pm EST

WASHINGTON -- Preliminary evidence shows that Toyota Motor Corp. hired a lawyer to destroy or hide incriminating safety documents from vehicle owners who sued the company over rollovers, an arbitrator has ruled.

The ruling was a procedural victory for former Toyota lawyer Dimitrios Biller in what is shaping up as a protracted legal battle with the automaker over his 2007 departure.

The Sept. 9 decision means Toyota can't claim attorney-client privilege to keep some internal documents cited by Biller from being used in the case.

Biller, who worked at Toyota's U.S. headquarters in Torrance, Calif., from 2003 to 2007, alleged he was hired to fraudulently withhold documents from plaintiffs who had sued the company after crashes.

The arbitrator, retired federal Judge Gary Taylor, of Orange, Calif., said he based his finding on Biller's testimony and on a review of internal Toyota documents.

“Mr. Biller's testimony is probably sufficient by itself to establish a prima facie showing,” the arbitrator wrote. “He was a key lawyer in Toyota's litigation department, having firsthand knowledge of much significant evidence.”

A prima facie finding is “a showing of some foundation in fact” that contains evidence “sufficient for a reasonable inference to be drawn,” the eight-page decision said.

The ruling doesn't address whether Toyota acted illegally or whether Biller will prevail. The case still has to be tried, with Biller scheduled to testify in mid-November.

After resigning from Toyota, Biller received a $3.7 million severance package.

The automaker sued him last year for $33.5 million, saying Biller broke the terms of that severance agreement by taking company documents. Biller countersued, alleging defamation and improper treatment that led to his resignation.

The two suits have been consolidated under court-supervised arbitration.

A Toyota spokeswoman said the company would continue to fight Biller's “inaccurate and misleading allegations.”

“We are confident that Toyota will be vindicated once we have the opportunity to fully contest the allegations and all evidence is considered,” spokeswoman Celeste Migliore said. “Toyota takes its legal obligations seriously.”

‘Books of Knowledge'

Biller, 47, alleged he was hired in part to conceal the so-called “Books of Knowledge,” a collection of sensitive electronic records about vehicle design, testing and performance. By withholding this data, Toyota managed to avoid paying much larger awards for rollovers and other accidents to plaintiffs, Biller has contended.

In an interview today, Biller said he introduced about 170 internal documents at the hearing. As a result of the arbitrator's decision, the documents no longer are protected by attorney-client privilege, he said.

If Biller is subpoenaed by plaintiff lawyers in other suits against Toyota, both his upcoming testimony and the documents he has introduced possibly can be used in these cases, he said.

Toyota faces a class action suit by vehicle owners alleging injury from sudden acceleration. The automaker also faces suits alleging that plaintiffs settled their cases after being deceived by Toyota about the evidence available to them.

In one pending case in Texas, Pennie Green has sued on grounds that she settled for $1.5 million after Toyota defied a court order requiring disclosure of safety records. Green became a quadriplegic at age 16 as a result of a 2005 rollover accident while driving a 1997 Camry.

Biller negotiated that settlement with Green while he was with Toyota.

He said in an interview that Toyota would have had to pay $10 million to $12 million to Green if she had been granted access to information requested by her lawyer about the Camry's head-clearance standards.

Internal e-mails

The arbitrator last week held that internal Toyota documents, many of which were e-mails from Biller himself, “appear to support Mr. Biller's contentions” on a prima facie basis. These e-mails have not been made public.

One document reviewed by the arbitrator was a Dec. 6, 2006, e-mail from Biller discussing “nondisclosure of the Books of Knowledge.”

In the e-mail, a copy of which has been reviewed by Automotive News, Biller told superiors: “Plaintiff's discovery efforts directed at [Toyota Technical Center] were getting too close to requiring TTC to produce the Books of Knowledge.”

The Biller e-mail also said Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. “concluded that it would be better to pay a premium to settle this case and avoid producing the Books of Knowledge before Toyota and its counsel had an opportunity to inspect those materials.”