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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #420 on: November 27, 2009, 05:54:23 am »
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #421 on: December 01, 2009, 06:44:30 pm »
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #422 on: December 01, 2009, 06:47:35 pm »
check http://www.priusphv.com/ tomorrow, all about the Prius plug in
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #423 on: December 14, 2009, 03:52:16 pm »
Plug-in Prius specs announced to-day:

Weight: 1490kg (3278lbs)
Seats: 5
Motor output: 60kW (82PS)
Max system output: 100kW (136PS)
Battery: Li-ion 5.2kWh
ICE: 1797cc, 73kW (99PS)
Plug-in + hybrid mileage: 57km/litre (134.8mpg)
Hybrid mileage: 30.6km/litre (72mpg)
EV range: 23.4km (14.6miles)
Max EV speed: 100kph (62.5mph)
EV power consumption: 6.57km/kWh (4.1miles/kWh)
Charging time: 100 minutes @200 volts, 180 minutes @100 volts
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #424 on: December 14, 2009, 04:27:01 pm »
$$$ ?
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #425 on: December 14, 2009, 05:38:17 pm »
About $33,000US according to the Yomiuri Daily 12/14/09.
Toyota V.P. Mr. Uchiyamada said yesterday the PHV premium would be within a reasonable range for HV Prius owners to step up to.
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #426 on: December 14, 2009, 05:47:50 pm »
Quote from: G35X on December 14, 2009, 05:38:17 pm
About $33,000US according to the Yomiuri Daily 12/14/09.
Toyota V.P. Mr. Uchiyamada said yesterday the PHV premium would be within a reasonable range for HV Prius owners to step up to.

Which is ~$35,000CDN with the real exchange, or $50,000CDN using "Toyota exchange."  $49,995?
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #427 on: December 14, 2009, 05:49:35 pm »
25 kms range?  I dunno...I'm not impressed.  Though the 2 hour re-charge is better than 8..
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #428 on: December 14, 2009, 05:56:58 pm »
Quote from: G35X on December 14, 2009, 03:52:16 pm
Plug-in Prius specs announced to-day:

Weight: 1490kg (3278lbs)
Seats: 5
Motor output: 60kW (82PS)
Max system output: 100kW (136PS)
Battery: Li-ion 5.2kWh
ICE: 1797cc, 73kW (99PS)
Plug-in + hybrid mileage: 57km/litre (134.8mpg)
Hybrid mileage: 30.6km/litre (72mpg)
EV range: 23.4km (14.6miles)
Max EV speed: 100kph (62.5mph)
EV power consumption: 6.57km/kWh (4.1miles/kWh)
Charging time: 100 minutes @200 volts, 180 minutes @100 volts

Thats what, 3.27L/100 km? Impressive. How much for 16kWh battery upgrade? The moment Toyota decides to offer one and bumps up EV speed to 120kph, the Volt is over.
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #429 on: December 14, 2009, 07:42:10 pm »
My wife's commute is 17km.  If she could make it there on EV alone, charge while she's at work, then come home, that would be perfect!

I wonder how many kW/h it uses to go that 25km?
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #430 on: December 14, 2009, 07:47:25 pm »
Quote from: johngenx on December 14, 2009, 07:42:10 pm
My wife's commute is 17km.  If she could make it there on EV alone, charge while she's at work, then come home, that would be perfect!

I wonder how many kW/h it uses to go that 25km?

Approximately 3.8 kw/h  (6.57kms per kw/h)
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #431 on: December 14, 2009, 07:53:14 pm »
Quote from: rrocket on December 14, 2009, 07:47:25 pm
Quote from: johngenx on December 14, 2009, 07:42:10 pm
My wife's commute is 17km.  If she could make it there on EV alone, charge while she's at work, then come home, that would be perfect!

I wonder how many kW/h it uses to go that 25km?

Approximately 3.8 kw/h  (6.57kms per kw/h)

 :-[  Oops.  Guess I should have read those specs.  Well, at ~12c per kW/h including distribution charges, my sife's commute could cost ~$0.65 round trip.  Holy crap!  At 7L/100km in her 'Rolla, she spends ~$2.30 at $1.00/L.  It's not a good analogy, but it's like getting 2.0L/100km, cost wise.
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #432 on: December 14, 2009, 08:09:02 pm »
Quote from: johngenx on December 14, 2009, 07:53:14 pm
Quote from: rrocket on December 14, 2009, 07:47:25 pm
Quote from: johngenx on December 14, 2009, 07:42:10 pm
My wife's commute is 17km.  If she could make it there on EV alone, charge while she's at work, then come home, that would be perfect!

I wonder how many kW/h it uses to go that 25km?

Approximately 3.8 kw/h  (6.57kms per kw/h)

 :-[  Oops.  Guess I should have read those specs.  Well, at ~12c per kW/h including distribution charges, my sife's commute could cost ~$0.65 round trip.  Holy crap!  At 7L/100km in her 'Rolla, she spends ~$2.30 at $1.00/L.  It's not a good analogy, but it's like getting 2.0L/100km, cost wise.

Whoa! It's like a FREE "tall" starbucks every day  ;D
Although if that is all the Rolla is driven it is still a more economical transportation at roughly HALF the price of Plugius.
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #433 on: December 14, 2009, 08:12:18 pm »
Quote from: DanYanoff on December 14, 2009, 08:09:02 pm
Quote from: johngenx on December 14, 2009, 07:53:14 pm
Quote from: rrocket on December 14, 2009, 07:47:25 pm
Quote from: johngenx on December 14, 2009, 07:42:10 pm
My wife's commute is 17km.  If she could make it there on EV alone, charge while she's at work, then come home, that would be perfect!

I wonder how many kW/h it uses to go that 25km?

Approximately 3.8 kw/h  (6.57kms per kw/h)

Yup. Or get a used Insight (like me!) and save even more.  Though I do note with winter fuel and cold weather I'm "only" getting 4.2L/100kms
 :-[  Oops.  Guess I should have read those specs.  Well, at ~12c per kW/h including distribution charges, my sife's commute could cost ~$0.65 round trip.  Holy crap!  At 7L/100km in her 'Rolla, she spends ~$2.30 at $1.00/L.  It's not a good analogy, but it's like getting 2.0L/100km, cost wise.

Whoa! It's like a FREE "tall" starbucks every day  ;D
Although if that is all the Rolla is driven it is still a more economical transportation at roughly HALF the price of Plugius.
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #434 on: December 14, 2009, 08:32:24 pm »
Quote from: DanYanoff on December 14, 2009, 08:09:02 pm
Whoa! It's like a FREE "tall" starbucks every day  ;D
Although if that is all the Rolla is driven it is still a more economical transportation at roughly HALF the price of Plugius.

Actually, the 'Rolla is driven about 30K per year, but of course, we couldn't do that all on EV mode.  We didn't buy a Prius 'cause it didn't make sense financially.  The fuel economy advantage payback period is very long thanks to the $10K premium over the Corolla.

BUT, bring a simple EV (the Prius is complex and expensive) that's <$20K that can go, say 60-100km on a charge at run at the same (or better) EV "mileage" as the Plug In Prius, and I'll be looking at it pretty hard.
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #435 on: December 14, 2009, 08:35:05 pm »
TALL Starbucks?  When did Tall mean small?

NSFW language...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1326454082877863299#
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #436 on: December 14, 2009, 08:35:37 pm »
Quote from: johngenx on December 14, 2009, 08:32:24 pm
Quote from: DanYanoff on December 14, 2009, 08:09:02 pm
Whoa! It's like a FREE "tall" starbucks every day  ;D
Although if that is all the Rolla is driven it is still a more economical transportation at roughly HALF the price of Plugius.

Actually, the 'Rolla is driven about 30K per year, but of course, we couldn't do that all on EV mode.  We didn't buy a Prius 'cause it didn't make sense financially.  The fuel economy advantage payback period is very long thanks to the $10K premium over the Corolla.

BUT, bring a simple EV (the Prius is complex and expensive) that's <$20K that can go, say 60-100km on a charge at run at the same (or better) EV "mileage" as the Plug In Prius, and I'll be looking at it pretty hard.

Sounds like you make like the Leaf....
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #437 on: December 14, 2009, 08:37:38 pm »
Quote from: DanYanoff on December 14, 2009, 08:09:02 pm
Whoa! It's like a FREE "tall" starbucks every day  ;D

Whoa! How Yuppie-like of you. Makes sense for many Pious buyers though I suppose. Are you from Beverly Hills?   ;)
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #438 on: December 14, 2009, 08:40:30 pm »
I confess, I DO like Starbucks/Second Cup/Fresh Ground coffee over POS Tim Horton's stuff.  If you're just going to have coffee out of a bag (Timmies) instead of fresh ground (Starbucks, etc), why bother?   :stick:
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Re: Toyota / Lexus Tidbits
« Reply #439 on: December 14, 2009, 09:07:04 pm »
Quote from: Greg B. on December 14, 2009, 08:37:38 pm
Quote from: DanYanoff on December 14, 2009, 08:09:02 pm
Whoa! It's like a FREE "tall" starbucks every day  ;D

Whoa! How Yuppie-like of you. Makes sense for many Pious buyers though I suppose. Are you from Beverly Hills?   ;)

Nah, I'm a country boy. So Country Style is where I get my medium latte (at). 2.29+tax. Will wait for Leaf  ;)
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