Topic: Not happy with Honda and the 2006 CR-V

[smainville]

Yes Barrie we heard it all before, the famous rust bucket.  But a lot of GM owners have had rust bucket problems too.  As far as a Honda being too small, have you sat in an Accord lately?  Not much diff between it and an Impala.  With the new tail lights it's a really beautiful car.  Myself I would not hesitate to buy certain GM models, even after owning a Skylark with the "flintsone braking system "!

[safristi]

...WILMA....!!!! WILMA!!!!...the bluddy WIND is gettin' too much ta bear...we need ta BOARD UP the frikkin' HONDAS vs GM's..it's a FORCE FIVE BS FEST and I can't HOLD ON MUCH LONGER.......BAAAAAAAA..RRRR..FFFFFFF!!!!!...chunks a LOT GUYS...... ..take it outside.....and DROWN IT.....!!!!!!

[barrie1]

Xtrail I hope your feet are OK as dragging to stop your car must have hurt a lot. I have never had a vehicle disintegrate as fast in my  life as the one Honda product I have owned. Yes they have improved greatly as they had to or they wouldn't be here now. When was the last time you seen a 1976 Honda, I see all kinds of North American built cars and trucks from that vintage on a regular basis. These are a very rare sight to see anywhere let alone in a salt invirement in the winter. Honda screwed me then so they don't ever get a 2nd chance. When it can't even do a 2nd winter as it is not safe to drive then you would understand my view as the Dealership did nothing to help me in any way. Only the wreckers did and gave me $135.00 FOR THE REMAINS. 

[ovr50]

 

 

[avtoller]

Ovr, I thought you weren't going to read that stuff any more. Wasn't there some advise from your doctor to that effect?   

[CR-V/Tucson/Rav4]

I urge anyone in the market for a compact SUV to check out the Hyundai Tucson/Kia Sportage twins and the all-new 2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara...  IMHO the best vehicles in the catagory right now, especially the Grand Vitara.

I like the GV, but the cargo space seemed quite small when the rear seats were tumbled. I much prefer the system the Tucson has.

Tried to check out the Sportage today, but the dealer had none, and didn't even have a 2006 brochure. In fact, didn't even have a 2005 brochure. They're not making it easy for a potential buyer. A lack of brochures for current models is inexcusable. Even the web page doesn't have any info on the 2006 model.

[ovr50]

Ross - no, but there should have been. I just wonder how many more times we have to read about the rusted Honda story of 1976?? Maybe we could get a guess of the upcoming replays so that we could skip those sessions? Of course if you base your entire judgement of a make on one event almost 30 years ago, I guess you have to keep repeating it. Nothing like one arrow in your quiver. Blah..

[smainville]

Ross - no, but there should have been. I just wonder how many more times we have to read about the rusted Honda story of 1976?? Maybe we could get a guess of the upcoming replays so that we could skip those sessions? Of course if you base your entire judgement of a make on one event almost 30 years ago, I guess you have to keep repeating it. Nothing like one arrow in your quiver. Blah..

Is it just me or I think Barrie1 did not understand the "flintsone" part at all?  Oh well.

[safristi]

Double D damn ...I keep seeing Snoballs ugly mug every time I read yer posts..Avatar-HO..= Rut -ro....? ..book him Dano....

[hondasalesguy]

if you insist...

no hyphen in "today"

no hyphen in "nobody"

stigma is spelled with a "m", not an "n"

and Barrie I don't slam everything out there, if someone is misinformed i try to set them straight. Not many people with any knowledge of the global automotive business regard Honda as a "bad" car company. Even those who don't like Honda personally would generally acknowledge that engineering wise they are near the top of the pack. But basing your entire philosophy on what happened 30 years ago is not very fair now is it?
I had a few bad dates with women (ok girls, I was 15) back in the 70s, I still didn't swear off the species..

Back in 1976 Honda really didn't have a clue about what Canadian winters would do to their product. It took until the 80s and even 90s before they were at the level of the other guys as far as body rigidity and resistance to rust. So what? There was once a time when all the Japanese companies built crappy electronics, but last time I looked they overcame that "made in Japan" stigma. (Actually more like 20 years ago)

Korean made products today are where Japanese made were a few years back. They are closing the gap, I don't think the same can be said for Detroit iron.

[barrie1]

Thats where we differ on the quality of the products. Your view is yours and I do respect that. My view is mine as to what constututes quality, I actually do have respect for the Honda Products as I know they have come a long ways from their humble beginnings. They are definitely a much improved vehicle over their original issue's. They are not for everybody the same as my GM's are not for everybody. My product line has served me very well and continue's to do so. As I have said No-body builds a perfect car for all of the people all of the time. Every make and model has had serious problems at one time or another and probably this trend will continue for years to come. No Manufacturer ever wants these problems but it happens. You have to remember that this is a car related site where every vehicle is equal in the eyes of the owners of them. Not everyone on here drives my product line or yours so everyone's opinion holds the same value. When I see my Faverite brand being bashed on a regular basis then i get upset the same as you. We have other Sales folks on here as well and their products in their minds are just as good as both of ours. 

[safristi]

..Someone above said..."The HARDNESS of the Material does NOT equate with the Rigidity...!!!"....I say Barrie is as Rigid as the Enron Board on this one........Boner FIDE GM Hard_ON...and Viagra FREE!!!!!!...you can't shake a stick at him on this issue...worry it ta the BONE he will........must be the BULL(Headed) DOG in him.......

[smainville]

Thats where we differ on the quality of the products. Your view is yours and I do respect that. My view is mine as to what constututes quality, I actually do have respect for the Honda Products as I know they have come a long ways from their humble beginnings. They are definitely a much improved vehicle over their original issue's. They are not for everybody the same as my GM's are not for everybody. My product line has served me very well and continue's to do so. As I have said No-body builds a perfect car for all of the people all of the time. Every make and model has had serious problems at one time or another and probably this trend will continue for years to come. No Manufacturer ever wants these problems but it happens. You have to remember that this is a car related site where every vehicle is equal in the eyes of the owners of them. Not everyone on here drives my product line or yours so everyone's opinion holds the same value. When I see my Faverite brand being bashed on a regular basis then i get upset the same as you. We have other Sales folks on here as well and their products in their minds are just as good as both of ours. 

Barrie1 you're absolutely right in your reasoning, but it's a two way street.  The minute someone comes here with a little Honda issue we have to listen to that story of yours again again and again.  Honda has been enjoying a huge success for a long time now, while GM is what it is for now.  I'm confident they will emerge a better company and soon enough, no doubt in my mind.

[barrie1]

Xtrail you are slightly mistaken regarding the Honda story being repeated on here so many times. If you check all of the Honda Posts you will see that I am hardly ever bringing up the problem I had unless pushed into it. Many different things come up about Honda that I don't even join in on so Please don't give me credit for something i haven't done.  If this had happened to you then i could just imagine how you would feel about this subject. Some Posters on here go on and on about the problems that they state they had with some of the GM's in their past but you don't seem to mind that do you. Whats fair for one is also fair for the other. Many different brands and models get picked on on here but you like many others don't like it when it happens to your choice of product. Neither does the next guy. If we were to say Volkswagon for example is the worst POS then I know there would be many replies from numerous posters defending the Brands Honour. I do beleive Volkswagon builds a very nice car for those who want one, the same as all makes and models. 

[ovr50]

That's just BS, Barrie, and you know it - you've told that rusty Honda about 17 bazillion times already and everyone on here as a regular knows it. Most times we ignore it but don't tell us you haven't repeated that story a bunch. Good grief, man. 

You are a funny guy...

[hondasalesguy]

there's typing in a hurry, and then there's not knowing how to spell

but i do stand corrected

[safristi]

..NO WORRIES I've ued whit ou on ye miskes Hnd sls gy......!!!!!!

[barrie1]

Ovr since the time I 1st posted here I have possibly only brought this up around 4 times to tell the whole story. You can do the research and look back yourself and show me where its more then that. Other people on here have repeated topics many times that you don't agree with as well but you don't go after them for it. Why Is That? GM bashing is fine to you but not the brands you like. I do believe many posters come thru here who are GM owners but don't stay very long as the GM Bashing gets a little too much for them. Have a good look with a totally open mind for a change and you will see what I see. 

[ovr50]

Talk about closed minds...!!!! BTW, I could care less about Hondas, and I do hope GM gets their act together.

I'm not going to argue with you, Barrie. It is pointless. Even when you're wrong, you can't see  it.

Read my sig line.

[hondasalesguy]

i believe the correct term is "blind faith"