Topic: Interesting things seen on the way to work thread

[Bubba]

Stopped in a Superstore, and I saw this:



I've seen it driving around occasionally, too.  I wonder how many OG Grand Caravans are left?

Dimensions
Length   190.5 in.
Overall width without mirrors   72.2 in.
Height   64.7 in.
Wheelbase   119.3 in.
Maximum cargo capacity   150 cu.ft.

[Arthur Dent]

Cadillac Coupe DeVille

[revalations]

Look at how small it is.  It's barely larger than the Saturn Astra that it's parked next to. 

I think it's sized similarly to the Chevy Orlando, and Kia Rondo mini-minivans that came out about a decade ago.

Wonder how small it would look alongside a modern minivan. Like the full size GM pickup from  88-98, they look like a compact truck next to newer models

[Bubba]

Look at how small it is.  It's barely larger than the Saturn Astra that it's parked next to. 

I think it's sized similarly to the Chevy Orlando, and Kia Rondo mini-minivans that came out about a decade ago.

Wonder how small it would look alongside a modern minivan. Like the full size GM pickup from  88-98, they look like a compact truck next to newer models

This article makes the comparison with a good graphic and pics.
2017 Chrysler Pacifica vs. 1984 Plymouth Voyager

[Blueprint]

On the 25 min drive back from work yesterday I spotted 4 BZ4X, a Gallardo, a JDM 4x4 van with twin ski caskets on top and one of these high bucks, huge Euro-style heavy truck-based overlanding rigs.

[ktm525]

Stopped in a Superstore, and I saw this:



I've seen it driving around occasionally, too.  I wonder how many OG Grand Caravans are left?

Dimensions
Length   190.5 in.
Overall width without mirrors   72.2 in.
Height   64.7 in.
Wheelbase   119.3 in.
Maximum cargo capacity   150 cu.ft.

alcoholic house painters and drywallers.

[Blueprint]

Stopped in a Superstore, and I saw this:



I've seen it driving around occasionally, too.  I wonder how many OG Grand Caravans are left?

Dimensions
Length   190.5 in.
Overall width without mirrors   72.2 in.
Height   64.7 in.
Wheelbase   119.3 in.
Maximum cargo capacity   150 cu.ft.

alcoholic house painters and drywallers.

Recently saw one of the new "Grand Caravan"s - a decontented Pacifica. If they issued a CVP on this for $19,995 they would sell like hotcakes - but that won't happen.

[valuator]

Stopped in a Superstore, and I saw this:



I've seen it driving around occasionally, too.  I wonder how many OG Grand Caravans are left?

Dimensions
Length   190.5 in.
Overall width without mirrors   72.2 in.
Height   64.7 in.
Wheelbase   119.3 in.
Maximum cargo capacity   150 cu.ft.

alcoholic house painters and drywallers.

Recently saw one of the new "Grand Caravan"s - a decontented Pacifica. If they issued a CVP on this for $19,995 they would sell like hotcakes - but that won't happen.

If they sold them for less than $40k, they'd sell like hotcakes.  People needing to schlep a family around are paying into the $30s for 5-7 year old 3-rows that have lived a hard life.

[Fobroader]

Stopped in a Superstore, and I saw this:



I've seen it driving around occasionally, too.  I wonder how many OG Grand Caravans are left?

Dimensions
Length   190.5 in.
Overall width without mirrors   72.2 in.
Height   64.7 in.
Wheelbase   119.3 in.
Maximum cargo capacity   150 cu.ft.

alcoholic house painters and drywallers.

Recently saw one of the new "Grand Caravan"s - a decontented Pacifica. If they issued a CVP on this for $19,995 they would sell like hotcakes - but that won't happen.

This is what a minivan should be for young families. Some disposable, $20k thing that will be filled with snot, candy and garbage for the next 10 years and then just disposed of. $50k+ minivans make zero sense to me, even the AWD ones, as they are meant for families with young crotch goblins which means they will be destroyed in no time.

[Blueprint]

Stopped in a Superstore, and I saw this:



I've seen it driving around occasionally, too.  I wonder how many OG Grand Caravans are left?

Dimensions
Length   190.5 in.
Overall width without mirrors   72.2 in.
Height   64.7 in.
Wheelbase   119.3 in.
Maximum cargo capacity   150 cu.ft.

alcoholic house painters and drywallers.

Recently saw one of the new "Grand Caravan"s - a decontented Pacifica. If they issued a CVP on this for $19,995 they would sell like hotcakes - but that won't happen.

If they sold them for less than $40k, they'd sell like hotcakes.  People needing to schlep a family around are paying into the $30s for 5-7 year old 3-rows that have lived a hard life.

Prices starts at $49,940 on chrysler.ca. The Pacifica PHEV is popular around here, even in premium imports-first neighbourhoods like mine, the gassers not so much.

[PJungnitsch]

This is what a minivan should be for young families. Some disposable, $20k thing that will be filled with snot, candy and garbage for the next 10 years and then just disposed of. $50k+ minivans make zero sense to me, even the AWD ones, as they are meant for families with young crotch goblins which means they will be destroyed in no time.

That's what my sister pointed out, but she also mentioned that reliability is huge for a family machine, and every second person I know with one of those Caravans has a horror story of being stranded.

They settled on a used Sienna and that thing has carted the family around for years without issue

[Fobroader]

This is what a minivan should be for young families. Some disposable, $20k thing that will be filled with snot, candy and garbage for the next 10 years and then just disposed of. $50k+ minivans make zero sense to me, even the AWD ones, as they are meant for families with young crotch goblins which means they will be destroyed in no time.

That's what my sister pointed out, but she also mentioned that reliability is huge for a family machine, and every second person I know with one of those Caravans has a horror story of being stranded.

They settled on a used Sienna and that thing has carted the family around for years without issue

Really?!?! Huh, I always thought of those things as pretty reliable but, mind you, I never really knew anyone with one  How the hell can Chrysler screw up something so simple!?!?!?

[valuator]

This is what a minivan should be for young families. Some disposable, $20k thing that will be filled with snot, candy and garbage for the next 10 years and then just disposed of. $50k+ minivans make zero sense to me, even the AWD ones, as they are meant for families with young crotch goblins which means they will be destroyed in no time.

That's what my sister pointed out, but she also mentioned that reliability is huge for a family machine, and every second person I know with one of those Caravans has a horror story of being stranded.

They settled on a used Sienna and that thing has carted the family around for years without issue

As a counterpoint....I ton of young families I know literally take a "fix it when it breaks" approach to vehicle maintenance.  Up until recently, NB had annual safety inspections...so a ton of vehicles only see a shop at inspection time (and hopefully get an oil change at the same time).  I bet most can't tell you when the last time any fluid was changed, etc.  As I've said, family haulers lead a hard life, and I would not assume any 3-row or van has been well maintained unless I knew the previous owner.

[blur911]

This is what a minivan should be for young families. Some disposable, $20k thing that will be filled with snot, candy and garbage for the next 10 years and then just disposed of. $50k+ minivans make zero sense to me, even the AWD ones, as they are meant for families with young crotch goblins which means they will be destroyed in no time.

That's what my sister pointed out, but she also mentioned that reliability is huge for a family machine, and every second person I know with one of those Caravans has a horror story of being stranded.

They settled on a used Sienna and that thing has carted the family around for years without issue

As a counterpoint....I ton of young families I know literally take a "fix it when it breaks" approach to vehicle maintenance.  Up until recently, NB had annual safety inspections...so a ton of vehicles only see a shop at inspection time (and hopefully get an oil change at the same time).  I bet most can't tell you when the last time any fluid was changed, etc.  As I've said, family haulers lead a hard life, and I would not assume any 3-row or van has been well maintained unless I knew the previous owner.

Now imagine never needing an inspection as long as you own it and think about the same "fix it when it breaks" crew.  That's Ontario

[Fobroader]

This is what a minivan should be for young families. Some disposable, $20k thing that will be filled with snot, candy and garbage for the next 10 years and then just disposed of. $50k+ minivans make zero sense to me, even the AWD ones, as they are meant for families with young crotch goblins which means they will be destroyed in no time.

That's what my sister pointed out, but she also mentioned that reliability is huge for a family machine, and every second person I know with one of those Caravans has a horror story of being stranded.

They settled on a used Sienna and that thing has carted the family around for years without issue

As a counterpoint....I ton of young families I know literally take a "fix it when it breaks" approach to vehicle maintenance.  Up until recently, NB had annual safety inspections...so a ton of vehicles only see a shop at inspection time (and hopefully get an oil change at the same time).  I bet most can't tell you when the last time any fluid was changed, etc.  As I've said, family haulers lead a hard life, and I would not assume any 3-row or van has been well maintained unless I knew the previous owner.

Theres a Caravan around here, same gen as the black one pictured above, that my buddy and I wince every time it drives by. The CV axles click like its got a hockey card in the spokes, brakes are grinding, there is distinctive clunk when it hits a bump, at least one wheel bearing is howling, and I don't think I've ever seen the thing clean. You maybe onto something, these should be treated as writeoffs when buying them lol

[revalations]

This is what a minivan should be for young families. Some disposable, $20k thing that will be filled with snot, candy and garbage for the next 10 years and then just disposed of. $50k+ minivans make zero sense to me, even the AWD ones, as they are meant for families with young crotch goblins which means they will be destroyed in no time.

That's what my sister pointed out, but she also mentioned that reliability is huge for a family machine, and every second person I know with one of those Caravans has a horror story of being stranded.

They settled on a used Sienna and that thing has carted the family around for years without issue

Really?!?! Huh, I always thought of those things as pretty reliable but, mind you, I never really knew anyone with one  How the hell can Chrysler screw up something so simple!?!?!?

In typical Chryco fashion, you’ll get 50 owners that have had great experiences and 50 that were mechanical nightmares. We had these vans in my family and all were reliable. I do see many new gen models though with pooched transmissions.


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[draghon]

in a similar yet different theme, drove by this small collection of full size vans on the way to a meeting the other day:
https://goo.gl/maps/DeeM3iLjwcX545rAA
(check out the satellite and street views)

I hardly ever see these vans on the road anymore and the ones I do see are for always for a business/contractor.

[Bubba]

in a similar yet different theme, drove by this small collection of full size vans on the way to a meeting the other day:
https://goo.gl/maps/DeeM3iLjwcX545rAA
(check out the satellite and street views)

I hardly ever see these vans on the road anymore and the ones I do see are for always for a business/contractor.

I drove by that place a couple Saturdays ago.

[Blueprint]

Took a 15 min break from WFH to drive my youngest to work. Spotted a black RR Ghost along our main arterial. And yet another McLaren appeared in our 'burb - I can't tell their models apart at a quick glance but it looked like one of the pricier ones. Ballerville.

[Arthur Dent]

A rare find. A very early 610 badged as a 1800. Builds from August until December 1972 before full production.