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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2005, 06:40:09 pm »
Agree Davidm, great configuration, thats why I don't understand the low residual, plus almost
3g's out of his pocket up front.The car equipped like this in 39 months, with only 60,000km will sell much,much more then $22,000. I suppose it would be a good idea at lease end to sell private
and get some of that $3,000 up front money back.

Something doesn't jive.
I didn't think the MY2005.5 redesign would force residuals down this bad on the out going MY2005.
If the residuals is going out the door, then Audi should give him another $1,000 off (at least) and bring down the out of pocket due at delivery.
IMO last year built models, generally tend to be the best build year of a car.All the bugs have worked out, trim levels get better,etc.

Jeff1, aren't your payments much lower, because of the trade in, and some coin up front?
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2005, 09:19:35 pm »
Audi/Volvo interior designs and materials are better than the LGT’s. The fit and finish are good on the Subaru but not up to Audi standards…..I will agree to that. To me that is not enough…..I want a driveline for $40k. The last thing I want to do is see a Vibe GT fly by me.

The LGT is an excellent GT sedan for the money…..wish it had a six-speed. Why can’t I have an A4 with 250/250 in the low 40’s?
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2005, 09:56:28 pm »
i agree with snowman.  

it all depends on what you are looking for.  

I wouldn't call it "quite a step down though".
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2005, 11:12:56 pm »
Ok.... so can we stay on the topic now ? I know what I want but thanx for the opinions.

Anyone think I would be able to at least drop the almost 3K in fees ? Ofcourse another venu for this for me would be leasebusters where A4 2004 with all the pkgs but ltg costs 515+tax / 38 months I think.
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2005, 11:17:33 pm »
Crazy - good man, keep those thread hijackers in line and on topic.
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2005, 07:25:40 am »
Good thinking Crazyman….let someone else eat the depreciation and drive a nearly new car. Leasebusters has expanded quite a bit over the years. You can also list yourself as a person looking and list your criteria
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2005, 10:20:52 am »
Geez, if $592/mo (after taxes) for an '04 A4 is a good deal on Lease Busters, I should offload mine and get something new.  :-)  Hmmm... the choices...

S60, I had negative equity in the BMW when I traded it AND after all the fees, first, last, security dep and whatever else was due on delivery, I shelled out around $3k when I picked up the car if I recall correctly (in that was also a $1000 "downpayment" to bring my monthlies down to where I wanted them -- which is well under the Lease Busters price above ... of course mine doesn't have the "lighting pkg").
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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2005, 10:29:36 am »
Look what I found on Leasebusters….would make a nice summer car for 4 years:.

http://leasebusters.com/$295/details.asp?ID=5561


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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2005, 10:30:57 am »
Crazy, has Audi disclosed what the 3K is
in detail?
Hopefully you did not take my S60 lease #'s as
a hint to lease a Volvo.
Just the numbers on both these cars are quite similar.

Lease take over is a great idea, to eliminate this
up front money.Also many trying to get out of their lease will offer up some nice incentives as well.
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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2005, 10:37:52 am »
The up front payments include:first month,refundible security deposit(calculated as $50.00 more than the monthly payment before tax -rounded up to the next ten),PDI $749.00,A/C tax $100.00,Gas Tax $75.00,administration $300.00(last four items are plus GST/PST),PPSA (registration to the creditbureau).

The above are the upfront payments....

Hey Jeff... I would take over your lease if like to change ur car. :-)
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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2005, 11:32:25 am »
Uh-oh... this is a dangerous thought for me... Hmmm... :-)
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« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2005, 11:46:25 am »
Stop using lease calculators on manufacturers websites.  The are a selling tool to get u into the dealership and include absolutely none of the correct fees. You will get all messed up.  
Crazyraver, your getting a discount of $1745...the residual is set by ALG, not by Audi and it is what it is.  The payments are correct.  Your upfront can be structured any way you want.  So ask for everything possible to be rolled into the payment such as PDI, Air tax, gas tax, admin, and taxes if you want to lower your out of pocket.   you will have to make your first payment.  The 39 month term is a great deal.  The invoice for your exact car including freight is 40897.00 so the dealers making about $2600.  You might be able to get another $1100 off but that would be about it IMO.  There's certainly not an extra $3G of room.  Who knows, maybe there is.  Try regardless but IMO they aren't going to sell a 45G car and make nothing.  It costs big $ to run an Audi store...Jeff's payments are lower because Audi was offering 1.9% over 48 at that time. Jeff1, dump your lease, get something new...you basically had to get rid of the neg. equity in the bimmer anyways so you aren't really out of pocket that much, on top of that you got a great deal if I remember correctly...you can pull a Jamesbe perhaps...some sweet leases on buster, but lots of stupid people too paying way too much in dangerous leases. (such as open ended)  Example I found is some guy who put 16500 down on a 36 month lease for an fx45, now wants out and none of the $ back.  19 months left.  Basically if you wanted to take over the payments and then buyout the truck, your be looking at 44G+tax, well below retail, and a low wholesale amount for a 70G truck new...I think the payments are like $750 or so.
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2005, 01:20:22 pm »
Eax, if we all as connected as you seem to be, in regards to auto mfgs invoice pricing, etc, us dummies would not have to depend on mfgs lease calculators.
Are you saying we should just go in to a showroom un armed will little or no knowledge on what a lease might cost.

In my dummy experience with Volvo online lease calculator, the difference between the online, and salesperson has been within $5-$10.00 on a monthly.

I realized many of mfgs online calculators are setup to give a very generalize idea, but at least it is some form of guidance if said car is possible for said person.
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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2005, 05:03:23 pm »
If you get a proper lease calculator off the net and then approximate the lease fees and other fees you can get bang on the money.  Problem with manufacturer lease calculators is they over look things like tax, lease fees, security deposits, etc..   They give you the bare bones bottom monthly price.  I usually assume the price is $2k higher than what I expect to pay to make the leasing calculator correct (something in the $25-$50/month).

I'm starting to think LeaseBusters is a great way to go if you like to flip often.  Grabbing leases from people who put something down (or got a great rate) with nothing up front seems hard to refuse (as long as you don't mind leasing in general).

Given EAX's cost price, I'd be shooting for paying around $42k - 3% profit doesn't seem to bad for the dealer.
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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2005, 05:55:11 pm »
Oh crap, you're right EAX, it WAS 1.9%... oops... I've been telling everyone 2.9%; no wonder!

Incidentally, Crazy planted the seed in my head that he would happily take over my lease, so, keeping in mind that I'm buying a house and paying for a wedding within the next 6 months I wondered if there was a way to lower my costs and still enjoy what I was driving.

What did I find?  Not a hell of a lot that enticed me.  For what I'm paying for the Audi (and again, keeping in mind the $0 maintenance costs, low fuel costs, low lease rates and low insurance costs), my Audi is a pretty kick-ass deal.

It seems there are a number of '04 RX8 GT's out there that dealerships are moving out for bare-bones prices -- that grabbed my attention; and the RSX-S works out to about $100/month cheaper than my Audi (but costs around $60/month more for insurance) so I guess it's still not worth it.  Even the Accord Coupe 6 speed I love so dearly is within about $25/month of my Audi -- again, not making it worthwhile.

It's such a nice feeling to be reaffirmed that the decision you've made is still the right one even 8 months later.  Now, if I can just hang in there for about another 28 months, I will hopefully be able to flip it for a new Audi RS3 if such a beast comes here.  Mmmm... power...

The moral of the story is... keep fightin' for a great deal Crazy, the A4 truly is an amazing car for a great deal.
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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2005, 06:33:23 pm »
Ya talkin' bout the Fiance OR the Finance.."It's such a nice....hang in there fer another 28 months..flip her for a AudiRS3if such a beast comes here.."!!!...keep those bed socks on Jeffy..COLD-FEET..Brrrr... and don't forget the nite-cap...McCallans ..2 eighteen year -olds before lites out.....
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2005, 10:40:14 pm »
I will keep on looking... I might just mass email Audi dealers in Ontario and see who will respond to my offers and take it from there. If all fails there some deals to be had on the busters.

Thank you all for your input and help. I will keep you informed as what comes out of this.

thanx.
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« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2005, 08:53:57 pm »
Just got a quote on an A4 Quattro.  Yikes! 45% residual!  Brutal!  No wonder the payments seem so high.
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