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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2004, 11:51:08 am »
I got lucky with a '93 subaru impreza.  Seems bulletproof (knock on wood)

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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2004, 12:00:55 pm »
Hey Jamesbe if a '93 Imprezza give ya wood..yer more than lucky!!!
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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2004, 07:53:37 am »
no daewoos?

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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2004, 12:40:31 pm »

I wouldn't get a Daewoo. The dealerships have just about vanished and so has the parts distribution network.

Aunt in Montreal has a Leganza covered by an extended warranty, and the warranty covers the price, but they can't find the parts!

At this price, power shouldn't be your #1 priority in the car. I would think drivability and durability should. Along with fuel efficiency.
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« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2004, 05:02:12 pm »
After reading some reviews online, I've narrowed the list down to a few:

- Honda Civic
- Toyota Tercel (Corollas too I guess but they look boxy)
- Ford Escort wagon (I like the hatchback and rack)

I should go with 4 doors to be practical since I'll need the trunk for trips and skis, but the hatchbacks are cute... decisions, decisions!  My parents are going to kick in some money so I can go up to $5000-6000 so I think I can get a decent mid-90s car?

I've driven my Mom's 1993 Civic EX sedan before and liked how well-built it is; I backed into someone else's car before (!) and while their paint chipped off our car was fine ;) The only qualm I have about it is the steering is quite difficult to control, I've driven a used Corolla and the steering is so much easier.  Is it because the Civic doesn't have power steering?  I'm not really sure what that (and power brakes) are.

I'm assuming a Tercel drives much like a Corolla, so the only thing I haven't driven before is the Escort.  Is Ford comparable with the Japanese cars for reliability?  I like the styling of the Escort wagon very much and the rack on top helps with skis.  Will it be able to drive up to a local ski hill (e.g. Seymour, Cypress) okay? I read online that the Escorts were one of the first cars to come out with driver side air bags and apparently the early ones caused deaths in slow-speed accidents so I'm a bit worried and need to do more research before looking at the Escorts.

How do these choices sound?  Anything particular I should look out for?

Thanks in advance for your help! :-)

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« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2004, 05:52:54 pm »
Do not buy the Ford, plain and simple.  If you like the corolla and the tercel look for one in good shape and be done with it.  The Civic has power assisted steering but it does steer heavy.  It is a well built car and you can check the VIN# for country of origin. (1=usa 2=CAN J=Japan)  The cars you are looking at except the Ford are all very close to one another in terms of performance and features.  Go with the one you feel the most comfortable in as most used Japanese cars if looked after will offer many K's of trouble free driving.  My 2 cents.

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« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2004, 02:27:28 am »
Okay, the Ford is off the list and I'm sticking with Japanese cars.  I'm also thinking of the Mazda 323 and the Acura Integra now, although I looked at the Buy and Sell and the Integra is a bit above my price range.  The 2-door ones look fabulous though...

I guess the best way for me to choose is just to start going to dealers and actually looking and test driving the cars :-)

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« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2004, 02:33:14 am »
Hey, I've been pretty much looking for a car in the same price range and the same area for the last few weeks (not looking too seriously until I get cleared on a loan though...woe is me, and there's a lot to be had if you're vigilant.

I was in pretty much the exact same boat this time last year and ended up with an 89 tercel with about 90,000 km on it.  It ran great (but yeah, the feedback carb could have been a problem in colder weather or in a few years) until I wrote it off.  

Civics and tercels depreciate very slowly in Vancouver, so they're a good investment, but a bit of a pain to find for a steal.  With $6000 you could probably get a good civic around a 93-94 model year or earlier, but it'll probably have a lot of mileage on it.  A tercel won't have as much oomph (they're not quite as powerfull as a corolla), but you could probably get something newer and with less mileage for the same ammount of money, and the insurance won't be quite as steep.  In my opinion, they aren't up their with civics as far as performance is concerned (and hills may be a bit of a problem, but I never had a problem getting it up to 95 or so on the upperlevels cut in north vancouver - highway 1, if you know where that is).  

Honestly, I'd stay away from anything domestic with the ammount of money you're willing to spend.  You could probably get something newer and that looks nicer, like a 99 or 2000 cavalier, but there's a good reason for that- they aren't as reliable.  

The tercel switched to the 3ee fuel injected engine in 90 or 91 I believe, but later models (from '92 or 93 on I think) are all coup or sedan, so if you wanted a hatchback you're going to be looking at an early 90's tercel, a civic (any year) or a Hyundai Accent (not sure which years offer hatchbacks, but they have a unique styling...if that matters).

I'm not too sure what to think of the accents.  The price is very good and tempting, and many reviews have reccomended them as used cars (97 and newer I believe), but there's also mixed reviews.  I don't believe they're quite as reliable as the civics or tercels, but then again, we're talking older models of civic or tercel in the same price point, so it could be a toss up pretty much.

Also, I'd actually keep an open mind and consider getting a manual transmision.  This will give you a lot more freedom when looking for a car, could save you a few hundred bucks in the sale, and it's probably something that's good to know anyways (I've never really driven standard either, but I think I'm going to get a standard car this time around).  

And when dealing with dealerships, two sites you may want to check out are:  

1.) The Motor Dealer Council of BC(http://www.mdcbc.com/} and
2.) The BBB of BC (find a company report page: http://www.bbbvan.org/company_reports/find_report/index.cfm).

Good Luck, and an infinite resource of information can be found in your library.  Look for the Lemon-aid books by Phil Emerson (if I spelled that right).  A ton of information about buying a used car in canada can be found in those.

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« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2004, 09:53:01 am »
WOW! you must be one of the very last dying breed of budget conscious university student! More and more of these freshies pull into their classes with MBs, 3-series, STi and Zs.
You would be very unique indeed. I recommend a used Protege. Or maybe score a used AWD Impreza L.

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« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2004, 12:12:55 pm »
Ghost...there are some people that pay their own way around in life.  

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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2004, 12:15:31 pm »
Early 1990s Mazda 323 and Ford Escorts were IDENTICAL.
Basically the Ford Escort were rebadged 323s.

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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2004, 12:41:47 pm »
LOL I don't know if Ghost's comment was directed at me or Gpw11 but you did read that my parents are helping to kick some money in right?  And now my Dad says maybe it's better if we just lease/finance a new car so we can pay less on the down payment and get a car we know is good but I really don't want to because then I'd be stuck with the $300 monthly payments on top of ~$400 cost to own a car!!! O_o Even if I do end up getting a new car I'd just drive a trusty Honda or Toyota... don't see a need to get anything fancier.

Bhatch6, THANK YOU for that bit of useful information!  I had no idea, I need to google it up and do some more research... since people were telling me not to buy Fords then I guess the Mazda's off the list

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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2004, 12:43:06 pm »
For whats it worth...I have a 92 integra that I bought 6 years ago when I was in Uni. Its a 2dr hatchback. Its been very reliable and its amazing the stuff you can fit in the lil thing...luv the hatch!! If you are not in a rush to buy and keep looking you should be able to pick up a 90-93 integra (probably private sale) in the 5K range...well the 93 may be a stretch but those are the gen 2 years.

I must caution you though..if you are gonna get a 2 dr integra your insurance will be higher than a tercel and probably even a civic. The integra topped the most stolen car in canada lists for several years before being replace by the tibouron a few years back. And just look around..every boy racer got mommy&daddy to get him a teg or civic...slammed it and plopped a hugh wing on the back. So there is a premium for the better performance and honda reliability and its up to you to decide if you want to pay that.

If i were in your position I would consider the accent but be very cautions (complete mechanical checkup and insist on the repair history/invoices). They has been a notable improvement in Hyundai products over last few years for two reasons. First hyundai has actually made an effort in improving its products. But secondly the bar set by older hyundais was never very high to begin with...hence the pricing. I would say the accent was among the first in a long line of products that started to show improvement.

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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2004, 02:04:07 pm »
Hmm... didn't catch the sarcasm there did ya md?

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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2004, 05:06:31 pm »
Tercel is about the most reliable used car around, but is pretty gutless with an automatic. Adequate with the 5 speed. Noisy on the highway with the 4 speed manual.  

I wouldn't eliminate the Escort from contention. They were very reliable as they were essentially Mazda's with different bodywork as Bhatch stated above. Escort GT's were quite entertaining and used the Mazda 1.8l twincam motor.
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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2004, 04:50:42 am »
Hashole, thanks for the input about the teg... too bad now that I've looked at some reviews and so on I really like it!  I'd rather go for the 94+ since it's the newer gen (I like that look better) but then the price jumps to $7000 range... ahh!  But if I'm going into debt anyway I may as well buy a car I like right? Will try to visit a dealer to do a test drive since I haven't driven one before... must try my best not to slap the cash down for it right away ;)

Maybe I'll hate the handling and go back to looking at a Civic hatchback... hmm...

And Tercels sound very reliable but they aren't terribly attractive... however beggars can't be choosers?

Oh, and my Mom's mechanic knows someone selling a 1992 Camry for $4900 obo... is that reasonable?  My family's enthusiastic about me getting that since it's 'luxury' but the size would be larger than what I want i.e. harder to park so I'm not sure.  Reviews all say it's fabulous though...

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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2004, 09:49:39 am »
seems a reasonable price for me.
and about the size, you can get used with it...i think its worth a look.

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« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2004, 11:32:24 am »
Straysheepie,

$4900 for a 1992 Camry seems a bit pricey to me....13 years old! This summer, my brother bought a 1991 Camry from his old landlord for just over $4000 in Victoria....I thought that was a bit pricey too. Maybe it was in outstanding condition?

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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2004, 03:19:44 pm »
I'll probably be taking a look at the Camry sometime in the next few days so I'll see what condition it's in.  It just seems so strange to go from looking at 2-door hatchbacks to a midsize 4-door family sedan!

How much can I reasonably knock off the listed price at a dealer or private sale?  Some people are selling their Integras for mid-$7k but if I can knock off a grand or two it would be in my budget.  Or is that just lowballing? :-(

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« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2004, 04:40:34 pm »
i would pick the camry...its a better car for me....but thats my opinion...i guess u can take from $500 to $1000 off...but that depends on lots and lots of negotiation.

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