Topic: "No wonder so many Ram drivers are angry"

[EV Dan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAdBvjFeENg 
The quote is from the comments below.

.. or should it be "drivers of black Rams" 

[WP v3.32]

well, I just picked my truck up from the same dealer and hour ago.  great timing.

[revalations]

Holy smokes! I've never seen paint peeling that badly on anything that new(ish). I can believe Ram denied his claim, but something went terribly wrong in the primer phase.

And yes, some Ram drivers do seem impatient, aggressive, and generally douchbagish. Black seems to aggravate this behavior.

[WP v3.32]

this one has to be a bad job from factory.  Dodge being Az-hole for denying though.

[EV Dan]

well, I just picked my truck up from the same dealer and hour ago.  great timing.

Must have been a bad batch. Either the body panels weren't properly prepped or the primer was crap. Either way, Stellantis should have asked for this truck brought back to their labs. Now they will have bad publicity and still have to do what's right to the owner.

[quadzilla]

Think there could be more to the story? If this was a "bad batch" there would be other stories going around. Are there? Maybe the owner did something to the roof? Wouldn't be the first time somebody screws up their vehicle and blames the manufacturer.

[revalations]

Think there could be more to the story? If this was a "bad batch" there would be other stories going around. Are there? Maybe the owner did something to the roof? Wouldn't be the first time somebody screws up their vehicle and blames the manufacturer.

I’ve seen black vehicles with alligatoring paint quite often. Usually though, the vehicle is 10+ years old and it would take years of neglect for it to progress that badly. Stuff that sits in an open sun exposure for many years ends up looking like this. I really don’t know what the owner could’ve possibly done to screw the paint that badly.

[Firm]

Think there could be more to the story? If this was a "bad batch" there would be other stories going around. Are there? Maybe the owner did something to the roof? Wouldn't be the first time somebody screws up their vehicle and blames the manufacturer.

I’ve seen black vehicles with alligatoring paint quite often. Usually though, the vehicle is 10+ years old and it would take years of neglect for it to progress that badly. Stuff that sits in an open sun exposure for many years ends up looking like this. I really don’t know what the owner could’ve possibly done to screw the paint that badly.

Yeah, I've never seen anything like that on a vehicle that isn't 30+ years old and with multiple sketch paint jobs. It's definitely a prep or primer failure for it to be coming off to clean metal like that.
The sad part is, if Dodge had taken that thing and had the roof stripped and resprayed, it would've cost them a couple grand, customer would've been happy, and they would've avoided this publicity mess.

[WP v3.32]

This is bad , you would think he has a case for small claim court

[JohnnyMac]

The peeling paint is bad and certainly a manufacturing defect, what is worse is the dealer and the head company denying any sort of wrongdoing and making it right.  But I just seem to think that's not too uncommon nowadays with a lot of these companies.

[Gurgie]

That's brutal!! Hopefully this bad press gets him sorted out. Wonder if there are any others out there suffering from this same situation though?

Definitely a mess up during the painting process & some kind of contamination happened. That is all automated now though, so you'd think there's a few more out there the same. Not like the old days when I was in the booth at the Jeep plant sanding bodies after primer to get them ready for paint

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[Allen]

Typical Chrysler cheap vehicles with big engines

[BWII]

It's a 2018..what did he think they would do?  Warranty's up bud...move on, and why you waitin' so long to get it fixed?  Sheesh...scuff it down and at least spray it with bedliner...make it real tough. Textured it'll be like a golf ball and be better on gas. 

[WP v3.32]

It was on  the radio this morning in Calgary.

Even if warranty is up,  you would think there should be consumer protection laws for this.  6 years...

[revalations]

That's brutal!! Hopefully this bad press gets him sorted out. Wonder if there are any others out there suffering from this same situation though?

Definitely a mess up during the painting process & some kind of contamination happened. That is all automated now though, so you'd think there's a few more out there the same. Not like the old days when I was in the booth at the Jeep plant sanding bodies after primer to get them ready for paint

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I watched an old GM manufacturing video awhile back. The guy painting the car without a mask while enjoying a cigarette made me cringe. The guys sanding were maskless too, different times for sure. Wonder how far into retirement they made it.

[EV Dan]

That's brutal!! Hopefully this bad press gets him sorted out. Wonder if there are any others out there suffering from this same situation though?

Definitely a mess up during the painting process & some kind of contamination happened. That is all automated now though, so you'd think there's a few more out there the same. Not like the old days when I was in the booth at the Jeep plant sanding bodies after primer to get them ready for paint

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I watched an old GM manufacturing video awhile back. The guy painting the car without a mask while enjoying a cigarette made me cringe. The guys sanding were maskless too, different times for sure. Wonder how far into retirement they made it.

Back in the day GM paint was the kind that you could drive the car for 15 years and after light cleaning it could be in a museum. Oil based I'd guess. My Toyota's finish is trash in comparison.

[EV Dan]

That's brutal!! Hopefully this bad press gets him sorted out. Wonder if there are any others out there suffering from this same situation though?

Definitely a mess up during the painting process & some kind of contamination happened. That is all automated now though, so you'd think there's a few more out there the same. Not like the old days when I was in the booth at the Jeep plant sanding bodies after primer to get them ready for paint

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The rest are left in shady 'hoods with keys in the ignition 

[Gurgie]

That's brutal!! Hopefully this bad press gets him sorted out. Wonder if there are any others out there suffering from this same situation though?

Definitely a mess up during the painting process & some kind of contamination happened. That is all automated now though, so you'd think there's a few more out there the same. Not like the old days when I was in the booth at the Jeep plant sanding bodies after primer to get them ready for paint

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I watched an old GM manufacturing video awhile back. The guy painting the car without a mask while enjoying a cigarette made me cringe. The guys sanding were maskless too, different times for sure. Wonder how far into retirement they made it.

More money left in the pension plan for everyone else

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[Firm]

That's brutal!! Hopefully this bad press gets him sorted out. Wonder if there are any others out there suffering from this same situation though?

Definitely a mess up during the painting process & some kind of contamination happened. That is all automated now though, so you'd think there's a few more out there the same. Not like the old days when I was in the booth at the Jeep plant sanding bodies after primer to get them ready for paint

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I watched an old GM manufacturing video awhile back. The guy painting the car without a mask while enjoying a cigarette made me cringe. The guys sanding were maskless too, different times for sure. Wonder how far into retirement they made it.

Back in the day GM paint was the kind that you could drive the car for 15 years and after light cleaning it could be in a museum. Oil based I'd guess. My Toyota's finish is trash in comparison.

It was the water base coat / clear coat stuff that screwed everything up. Original paint on my 84 Camaro with 32Xk kms shows perfectly, but once you get into anything GM made after the conversion (85? 86?) it's a disaster. Even into the late 90's and early 2000's they couldn't get it right.

[PJungnitsch]

Yeah GM had a period there where they were famous for paint peeling off in big splotches from a black primer, but at least the metal was still covered