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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2024, 09:18:21 am »
Our old Santa Fe had the springs break in the front suspension.  The first time it was under warranty and they replaced it right away, but the second time it wasn't.  Luckily supply wasn't the issue, but around a year later we got a letter in the mail about a recall for this specific thing and got Hyundai Canada to reimburse us for the repair and they inspected the springs we currently had on.  It was corrosion based from my understanding.  But it took a solid 7 years before they did a recall/service bulletin for it, so I'm not sure what the timeline would be for Honda for such matters.  I would suggest that they keep all the receipts for any work or expense associated with it as they could get reimbursed at a later time.

Considering it's an Odyssey and they retain a lot of value, why don't they see how much financial damage it would be to just trade it in and get a new one?

My bro isn't the kinda guy to buy a new vehicle every few years.  His previous Odyssey was twelve years old and had close to 300 000km when he sold it for close to scrap value and bought this new van, which is also supposed to last approximately ten years. 

Why should he have to change his behaviour just because Honda makes an apparently shitty product and can't keep parts in stock?  It's not an unreasonable expectation to expect a steady supply of parts for a 3 year old van...

New vehicles can be worse since the parts have not caught up. The new Lexus GX I looked at has a minefield for a windshield as there was no replacement yet available (OE). The bigger point is that stuff like that shouldn't be breaking. Air springs for the win?  :run:


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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2024, 09:29:16 am »
Our old Santa Fe had the springs break in the front suspension.  The first time it was under warranty and they replaced it right away, but the second time it wasn't.  Luckily supply wasn't the issue, but around a year later we got a letter in the mail about a recall for this specific thing and got Hyundai Canada to reimburse us for the repair and they inspected the springs we currently had on.  It was corrosion based from my understanding.  But it took a solid 7 years before they did a recall/service bulletin for it, so I'm not sure what the timeline would be for Honda for such matters.  I would suggest that they keep all the receipts for any work or expense associated with it as they could get reimbursed at a later time.

Considering it's an Odyssey and they retain a lot of value, why don't they see how much financial damage it would be to just trade it in and get a new one?

My bro isn't the kinda guy to buy a new vehicle every few years.  His previous Odyssey was twelve years old and had close to 300 000km when he sold it for close to scrap value and bought this new van, which is also supposed to last approximately ten years. 

Why should he have to change his behaviour just because Honda makes an apparently shitty product and can't keep parts in stock?  It's not an unreasonable expectation to expect a steady supply of parts for a 3 year old van...

New vehicles can be worse since the parts have not caught up. The new Lexus GX I looked at has a minefield for a windshield as there was no replacement yet available (OE). The bigger point is that stuff like that shouldn't be breaking. Air springs for the win?  :run:
For sure it's not ideal, just putting out another possible option to get through.  I don't disagree that it's :censor: poor quality and planning on Honda's part, but that isn't something that will be fixed in a timely manner, so I was just suggesting something more immediate. 

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2024, 09:33:18 am »
I searched my channels and I couldn't even find a listing in the aftermarket for these. I have sent this to a colleague in the suspension/chassis business to see if they can come up with anything, definitely sounds like an opportunity for the aftermarket to step up.

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2024, 09:35:17 am »
I searched my channels and I couldn't even find a listing in the aftermarket for these. I have sent this to a colleague in the suspension/chassis business to see if they can come up with anything, definitely sounds like an opportunity for the aftermarket to step up.

Thanks, I appreciate that.  Let me know if you find anything in the meantime. 

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2024, 09:48:13 am »
Our old Santa Fe had the springs break in the front suspension.  The first time it was under warranty and they replaced it right away, but the second time it wasn't.  Luckily supply wasn't the issue, but around a year later we got a letter in the mail about a recall for this specific thing and got Hyundai Canada to reimburse us for the repair and they inspected the springs we currently had on.  It was corrosion based from my understanding.  But it took a solid 7 years before they did a recall/service bulletin for it, so I'm not sure what the timeline would be for Honda for such matters.  I would suggest that they keep all the receipts for any work or expense associated with it as they could get reimbursed at a later time.

Considering it's an Odyssey and they retain a lot of value, why don't they see how much financial damage it would be to just trade it in and get a new one?

My bro isn't the kinda guy to buy a new vehicle every few years.  His previous Odyssey was twelve years old and had close to 300 000km when he sold it for close to scrap value and bought this new van, which is also supposed to last approximately ten years. 

Why should he have to change his behaviour just because Honda makes an apparently shitty product and can't keep parts in stock?  It's not an unreasonable expectation to expect a steady supply of parts for a 3 year old van...

New vehicles can be worse since the parts have not caught up. The new Lexus GX I looked at has a minefield for a windshield as there was no replacement yet available (OE). The bigger point is that stuff like that shouldn't be breaking. Air springs for the win?  :run:
For sure it's not ideal, just putting out another possible option to get through.  I don't disagree that it's :censor: poor quality and planning on Honda's part, but that isn't something that will be fixed in a timely manner, so I was just suggesting something more immediate.

Oh sorry was replying to the quote you captured. Yeah no idea what best step is. But an old GM van that can be fixed on the side of the road?


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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2024, 09:49:14 am »
Wrecker maybe? They should be able to locate parts across North America

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2024, 09:54:48 am »
The only problem with the wrecker is that you might get the same failure prone springs.
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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2024, 10:00:18 am »
The only problem with the wrecker is that you might get the same failure prone springs.

I think the wrecker springs are the way to go for now.  At least it gets him back on the road, but he should still definitely order a couple of new springs to keep in his garage.  There are a few wreckers in the States that have some in stock. 

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2024, 10:03:45 am »
Seams crazy that there's a lack of parts.  Especially springs like that, you would think its one of the easiest part to make for aftermarket companies.

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2024, 11:53:41 am »
I don't think typically one would see lots of 3 year old spring replacements. Shame Honda, shame.


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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2024, 11:56:55 am »
I don't think typically one would see lots of 3 year old spring replacements. Shame Honda, shame.

Yep, you're not typically seeing coil spring replacements until 10+ years old, so nobody has launched anything for this application yet. Whoever gets it out first is going to make some $.

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2024, 12:16:34 pm »
K, Spring bought from a wrecker in Brooklyn, NY.  He should have it in a week. 

Crisis averted.  A forum member came through with a phone number for me to call, which I passed on, so Thanks for that. 

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2024, 12:21:59 pm »
Thats great to hear, but man, a 3 year old vehicle needing springs, thats unacceptable. I doubt he was getting air on back roads too....
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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2024, 02:42:09 pm »
Ya, definitely shitty.  And if there's a lot failing, good chance the spring from the wrecker will also.  Wondering if the new springs have improved design/materials.
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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2024, 03:00:22 pm »
Ya, definitely shitty.  And if there's a lot failing, good chance the spring from the wrecker will also.  Wondering if the new springs have improved design/materials.

Well, at least this gets him back on the road.  I've advised him to still order a new spring from Honda, to set aside in case another one breaks.

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2024, 03:10:17 pm »
Ya, definitely shitty.  And if there's a lot failing, good chance the spring from the wrecker will also.  Wondering if the new springs have improved design/materials.

Well, at least this gets him back on the road.  I've advised him to still order a new spring from Honda, to set aside in case another one breaks.

Ya thats good to hear, and good advice.

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2024, 10:23:34 am »
I would order a couple...


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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2024, 11:14:29 am »
Was going to say the same thing. Get two, because the used one will probably fail at some point.

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2024, 08:09:00 pm »
Update:

Honda Canada has approved a rental for him, a big 7-8 passenger.  So he's opting to keep the used spring as a future spare, or should Honda grow tired of paying for a rental, and will wait until the official Honda part comes in. 

So, good on Honda for stepping up like that, at least.

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Re: 2021 Honda Odyssey - rear spring failures?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2024, 08:13:56 pm »
Update:

Honda Canada has approved a rental for him, a big 7-8 passenger.  So he's opting to keep the used spring as a future spare, or should Honda grow tired of paying for a rental, and will wait until the official Honda part comes in. 

So, good on Honda for stepping up like that, at least.

Nice!!!!! I knew Honda would do something.  :)

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