Topic: 2024 midsize PHEV SUV comparo: CX-90 vs Grand Cherokee

[rrocket]

I actually think memory seats are something I could do without. I use mine about twice a year when my daughter is home but think I could certainly live without it.

This was my point.

Not really required unless you play musical chairs with you car seating....unless it's a principle thing.

FWIW if IQ ever borrows my car, she puts the seat back (as close as possible OR all the way back) before exiting the car. Otherwise I wouldn't even be able to get in.

[Jaeger]

Both of our cars have memory seats and I don't think I've really set them up but my wife and I seem to like our seats roughly in the same place anyways.

When I was primary driver of the 2015 Genesis, if my wife had driven the car, I'd be smashed against the steering wheel when I got in. If my daughter had driven the car, I couldn't even get in. But press one button before entering, and the seat was placed perfectly for me. Fair to say that for singles and for couples who have the same driving position, memory seats aren't much of a benefit. But they are a benefit for everyone else whose vehicle is used by more than one driver.

I actually think power seats without memory are kind of dumb. I can adjust my seat manually much more quickly, though obviously many power seats have more adjustments than typical manual seats.

Yup.  And the memory function has now trickled down to cars well below this price point.

[Jaeger]

Both of our cars have memory seats and I don't think I've really set them up but my wife and I seem to like our seats roughly in the same place anyways.

When I was primary driver of the 2015 Genesis, if my wife had driven the car, I'd be smashed against the steering wheel when I got in. If my daughter had driven the car, I couldn't even get in. But press one button before entering, and the seat was placed perfectly for me. Fair to say that for singles and for couples who have the same driving position, memory seats aren't much of a benefit. But they are a benefit for everyone else whose vehicle is used by more than one driver.

I actually think power seats without memory are kind of dumb. I can adjust my seat manually much more quickly, though obviously many power seats have more adjustments than typical manual seats.

The Passport has driver's memory seat which is handy, I mainly drive it, but every once in a while Bella drives it & has her own setting. The SLK has memory settings on both front seats which comes in handy more often than not, Bella likes her setting for the passenger seat & then when I put my golf bag in there I just hit a different button on the memory settings so it fits easily. Bella's 3 has a power seat with no memory & I can't fit in there with the way she has it set, so anytime I drive it I mess up her setting and then she has to re-adjust it back somehow.

Exactly. 

[TheHire]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

[Blueprint]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

Same here but bundled in the $5k upgrade to the GT trim with the CX-90.

[rrocket]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

You share cars that frequently?

[PJungnitsch]

Best ode to great seats in a car:

https://www.thedrive.com/article/5514/behold-mercedes-has-created-the-worlds-greatest-seat

[Blueprint]

My favorite seat memory system by far is Subaru’s driver recognition system. In my Legacy Limited GT presser, the camera would recognize me and set my seat automatically. It’s able to memorize 5 different drivers.

[Dante]

My favorite seat memory system by far is Subaru’s driver recognition system. In my Legacy Limited GT presser, the camera would recognize me and set my seat automatically. It’s able to memorize 5 different drivers.

Where is the camera that recognizes you? Does it recognize you before or after you get in the car?

[tortoise]

Is that a deal killer if it's your car and just your drive it?

Not at all. But that's not my use case.

My wife is pretty short and we often drive both cars depending on what we're doing.  They both have manual seats and I found the electric seats in the rental Tiguan to be annoyingly slow to move.

[Jaeger]

Is that a deal killer if it's your car and just your drive it?

Not at all. But that's not my use case.

My wife is pretty short and we often drive both cars depending on what we're doing.  They both
 have manual seats and I found the electric seats in the rental Tiguan to be annoyingly slow to move.

Exactly. The lack of heated seats isn't a deal breaker if you live in Arizona. So for manufacturers who only sell cars in Arizona, the absence of that feature will rarely impact sales. But if your market includes a large number of potential buyers who would find that feature VERY useful, it's absence might well impact sales.

[Jaeger]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

Same here but bundled in the $5k upgrade to the GT trim with the CX-90.

It almost seems like a useful feature for vehicles with multiple drivers, or something. It also seems like that use case isn't exactly a remote outlier.

[quadzilla]

It should be illegal to sell power seats without a (minimum) 2 person memory button. 

[TheHire]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

You share cars that frequently?

Yup. We use her IONIQ 5 all the time when booting around on weekends and such, and I drive 98% of the time that we're together. We did that this weekend - this thing has no memory seats. Now when she gets into it today or tomorrow to go to work, she'll have to re-adjust. Same goes for the mirrors. It's just nice to have if you've had it - if you haven't had it then you won't notice it missing.

Mrs. Hire went from her 2008 XC70 to her 2015 A4 in ~2016 and the first thing she noticed was the missing memory. She was living at her parents' then and her car lived at the end of the driveway. Other family members would often jump in and move the car or take it on short errands, infuriating her. The XC70 always had mammary. She's super reasonable as it pertains to my general stupidity so the couple things she really does want (memory seats, an actual volume knob, toasty seat heaters, and excellent visibility) I try to ensure are always there.

[OliverD]

I don't think it's entirely unreasonable for a fairly base trim in this category to not have memory seats. As mentioned they are standard in the next trim level up.

Do the CX-90's competitors have memory seats in their equivalent trims?

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

You share cars that frequently?

 The XC70 always had mammary.

All my favorite rides have mammaries, too, so it's no surprise you like it also...

[PJungnitsch]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

You share cars that frequently?

 The XC70 always had mammary.

All my favorite rides have mammaries, too, so it's no surprise you like it also...

 

What got me is the person here with the nicest lineup of ICE vehicles by far, spends his off time driving an electric vehicle

[ktm525]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

You share cars that frequently?

 The XC70 always had mammary.

All my favorite rides have mammaries, too, so it's no surprise you like it also...

 

What got me is the person here with the nicest lineup of ICE vehicles by far, spends his off time driving an electric vehicle

Many people golf.

[Jaeger]

It should be illegal to sell power seats without a (minimum) 2 person memory button. 

One should accompany the other. It's neither new, nor costly tech. And anyone who feels like a memory button is against their religion, doesn't have to use it.    Not sure I feel strongly enough about it to make it illegal, though. 

[TheHire]

Need memory seats between Mrs. Hire and myself. Our positions are wildly different and it's a PITA to set it right every single time.

You share cars that frequently?

 The XC70 always had mammary.

All my favorite rides have mammaries, too, so it's no surprise you like it also...

 

What got me is the person here with the nicest lineup of ICE vehicles by far, spends his off time driving an electric vehicle

Honestly just crappy errands the last few months while dealing with major house reno. Lots of stop and go, messy winter parking lots and stupid drivers.