Topic: New family hauler

[Jaeger]

Sweet!  I love black wheel and trim on a white car.  Enjoy!

Exactly the colour combo my daughter wants in her new ride. Black alloys pair very well with light colours, especially white. They are just had to photograph !! Looking at it right now through the Starbucks windows - it looks great and maintains a bit of "square" in an ovoid world.

Yup!

[PJungnitsch]

Prices have crept up - a lot. Initially the Tiguan was a good deal, but this mid-trim unit is priced quite near the CX-5 Signature while its direct CX-5 competitor would be a less expensive Kuro.

Interior room-wise, wouldn't the Taos and the CX-5 be closer? The Tiguan we rented had tons of back seat space plus a good sized trunk area. From what I understand we get the long wheel base version sold mostly in China and North America

[Dante]

Prices have crept up - a lot. Initially the Tiguan was a good deal, but this mid-trim unit is priced quite near the CX-5 Signature while its direct CX-5 competitor would be a less expensive Kuro.

Interior room-wise, wouldn't the Taos and the CX-5 be closer? The Tiguan we rented had tons of back seat space plus a good sized trunk area. From what I understand we get the long wheel base version sold mostly in China and North America

Europe has the Tiguan (short) and the Tiguan Allspace (ours or long)...

[Blueprint]

Prices have crept up - a lot. Initially the Tiguan was a good deal, but this mid-trim unit is priced quite near the CX-5 Signature while its direct CX-5 competitor would be a less expensive Kuro.

Interior room-wise, wouldn't the Taos and the CX-5 be closer? The Tiguan we rented had tons of back seat space plus a good sized trunk area. From what I understand we get the long wheel base version sold mostly in China and North America

It's murky in the SUV world, but the Taos is more aligned with the CX-30, while the CX-5 is the smallest of the "compacts" now that the Tucson and Sportage cousins have been enlarged. CX-50 has a bit less interior room than the CX-5 just to make things easier 

[Dante]

If you buy a compact SUV for utility, the Tiguan is one of if not the best choice. Don't care much about the numbers, but the cargo space is more usable than most if not all competitors - adjustable floor, 40-20-40, sliding/reclining rear seats (I hope they still have it), wide, tall square hatch opining, almost flat folding rear seats.....

If it only could be delivered wilt a full engine and with cloth seats in Comfortline trim, it would be a great family SUV for me!

[2JDM]

Sweet!  I love black wheel and trim on a white car.  Enjoy!

Storm Trooper look. 

[Bubba]

Congrats!  Nice looking vehicle. 

As a side note, I like that front porches are making a comeback.

[ktm525]

Looks good. When I was looking last year I test drove a Tiguan and it felt very laggy in the throttle inputs  and it hesitated at stops and such, drove me nuts. Sales guy mentioned they all do that. Otherwise it was a nice ride.  I assume VW ironed that out?

[Blueprint]

Looks good. When I was looking last year I test drove a Tiguan and it felt very laggy in the throttle inputs  and it hesitated at stops and such, drove me nuts. Sales guy mentioned they all do that. Otherwise it was a nice ride.  I assume VW ironed that out?

@Patrick_D1, I'd like your input here. My tester hesitated like a carburated 1982 Mazda GLC with bad gas when cold. Every. Single. Time. I left the house, low speed with part throttle and off throttle to slow down around parked cars and peds, it would hesitate and buck like it had trouble getting gas. They can't be all that bad, can they?

[ArticSteve]

They can't be all that bad, can they?


Of course they can.  This isn't a Euro VW from the past.   It's an assembled Mexican vehicle with an Mexican assembled engine.  A POS.  A tough pill for VW fan boys to consume.  A company that is eliminating all physical controls in favour of  touch screens.  As the Savage says;  "Have at it".

Enjoy your VWs particularly the Atlas line.   

[Blueprint]

Looks good. When I was looking last year I test drove a Tiguan and it felt very laggy in the throttle inputs  and it hesitated at stops and such, drove me nuts. Sales guy mentioned they all do that. Otherwise it was a nice ride.  I assume VW ironed that out?

@Patrick_D1, I'd like your input here. My tester hesitated like a carburated 1982 Mazda GLC with bad gas when cold. Every. Single. Time. I left the house, low speed with part throttle and off throttle to slow down around parked cars and peds, it would hesitate and buck like it had trouble getting gas. They can't be all that bad, can they?

Hunting around the net, this behaviour appears to be endemic to the species, something related to emissions and a fast heat cycle for the catalysts (that's one theory at least). It's all over the web, so, yes, they're all that bad it seems.

[Patrick_D1]

Looks good. When I was looking last year I test drove a Tiguan and it felt very laggy in the throttle inputs  and it hesitated at stops and such, drove me nuts. Sales guy mentioned they all do that. Otherwise it was a nice ride.  I assume VW ironed that out?

@Patrick_D1, I'd like your input here. My tester hesitated like a carburated 1982 Mazda GLC with bad gas when cold. Every. Single. Time. I left the house, low speed with part throttle and off throttle to slow down around parked cars and peds, it would hesitate and buck like it had trouble getting gas. They can't be all that bad, can they?

Hunting around the net, this behaviour appears to be endemic to the species, something related to emissions and a fast heat cycle for the catalysts (that's one theory at least). It's all over the web, so, yes, they're all that bad it seems.

Like many modern turbo cars, it will keep the wastegate open on cold start to speed catalyst light off, but none of the units I've driven have ever bucked. Slow (no boost) for the first kilometre or so, sure, but settles down pretty quick.

[Blueprint]

Looks good. When I was looking last year I test drove a Tiguan and it felt very laggy in the throttle inputs  and it hesitated at stops and such, drove me nuts. Sales guy mentioned they all do that. Otherwise it was a nice ride.  I assume VW ironed that out?

@Patrick_D1, I'd like your input here. My tester hesitated like a carburated 1982 Mazda GLC with bad gas when cold. Every. Single. Time. I left the house, low speed with part throttle and off throttle to slow down around parked cars and peds, it would hesitate and buck like it had trouble getting gas. They can't be all that bad, can they?

Hunting around the net, this behaviour appears to be endemic to the species, something related to emissions and a fast heat cycle for the catalysts (that's one theory at least). It's all over the web, so, yes, they're all that bad it seems.

Like many modern turbo cars, it will keep the wastegate open on cold start to speed catalyst light off, but none of the units I've driven have ever bucked. Slow (no boost) for the first kilometre or so, sure, but settles down pretty quick.

It's probable my narrow residential street exacerbates the behavior, as it's throttle off mostly during "fast idle" to manoeuvre around parked cars and such. If you just start and step on it, well it's more like your description, but with very light on/off throttle it did that every morning and at every cold start.

[ktm525]

It is not ze car at fault dummkopf it is you. This is top notch mexican er German engineering.

When I test drove one it was enough to strike from list. An appliance should work, no excuses.

[PJungnitsch]

Imagine hybrid drivetrains are making gas engine design easier. All the heavy lifting at low speeds/cold engine temps is being done by electrical motors which don't care about cold starts and have huge torque off low throttle

[ktm525]

If they work they will be great for the 4 years they are under warranty. Wouldn't want to be holding the bag on any of that tech 10-15 years out.

[Blueprint]

If they work they will be great for the 4 years they are under warranty. Wouldn't want to be holding the bag on any of that tech 10-15 years out.

The very first hybrids - Insight and Prius - have proven quite reliable over time and mileage. All ICE should at least go the MHEV route to help with emissions and driveability.

[Layne]

When is this coming to Canada, Patrick?

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/volkswagen/tiguan-r/

 

[valuator]

If they work they will be great for the 4 years they are under warranty. Wouldn't want to be holding the bag on any of that tech 10-15 years out.

The very first hybrids - Insight and Prius - have proven quite reliable over time and mileage. All ICE should at least go the MHEV route to help with emissions and driveability.

I've been saying this for years.  Incorporating mild hybrid tech across product lines is carbon-reducing low hanging fruit, IMO.