Topic: The car market is turning.

[tortoise]

If you are inclined towards VW and not necessarily a sedan, perhaps you can look at a MK7 GTI. Or even a regular Golf. Nicer package overall I would say.
One reason I would stay away from Jetta is potential rust issues.
But like Firm said, there are many other options more exciting than a Corolla.

I'm having rust issues with my Golf, so it's not limited to the Jetta

[Firm]

Oh lol. 2020 or newer from my experience are great cars. The little 1.4 turbo moves them along nicely and they get great fuel mileage. I had one for a full week as a rental (2022). Really enjoyed it. Long term I can’t say, but assume typical VW problems (electrical, oil leaks, cel, etc) as they age. I’d say there’s far more reliable cars to be had.

My 2013 Corolla is as reliable as they come, but excruciatingly boring to drive.  I'm reminded of Triple Bob's tagline: Choosing a car based on reliability is like choosing a wife based solely because she is punctual. There is more to it than that...

Totally agree, but Jetta isn't the cure. Go for something properly fun/interesting and enjoy it.

If going VW, go GTI. But this being Bubba, shouldn't you be looking at a 300, or Challenger, or Charger?

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100%, I'd be finding me a nice fully jammed 300C or Challenger. Even with the 3.6L if fuel economy is a concern, they're very nice driving cars and way more exciting than a Corolla or a Jetta IMO.

[ktm525]

x2. Bubba needs to be rolling in a 300C

[me_2]

Something like this 300 (not C) 2015 with 80K kms (Carfax shows a minor claim) ?

Autotrader
Dealer website

[ktm525]

That's nice especially if it comes with two sets of wheels. Those look like like cheapie winter alloys with winter treads no?

[warp]

Having owned a 300 for many years, it's a great car with the 3.6 V6, 8 speed combo and has good hwy fuel consumption. It's one weakness is terrible headlights in all trims other than the 300C which are HID. The halogen headlights in other trims are dim and very poorly focused, poorly designed reflectors are probably the culprit. Having said that, I have never driven a 300C so cannot comment first hand on the beam quality and focus of those HIDs. I just know that they are much brighter vs the OEM halogens in other trims. Something to keep in mind in case you do a lot of night driving.

[Firm]

Having owned a 300 for many years, it's a great car with the 3.6 V6, 8 speed combo and has good hwy fuel consumption. It's one weakness is terrible headlights in all trims other than the 300C which are HID. The halogen headlights in other trims are dim and very poorly focused, poorly designed reflectors are probably the culprit. Having said that, I have never driven a 300C so cannot comment first hand on the beam quality and focus of those HIDs. I just know that they are much brighter vs the OEM halogens in other trims. Something to keep in mind in case you do a lot of night driving.

Interesting, I find it amazing how some manufactures still really mess that up. Easy fix with some aftermarket assemblies, but then you've got aftermarket assemblies...
Can't be worse than the 09-14 F-150s, like driving by candlelight.

[ktm525]

Lights are easily corrected though  with a pair of quality driving lights relayed to the high beams.

[warp]

Having owned a 300 for many years, it's a great car with the 3.6 V6, 8 speed combo and has good hwy fuel consumption. It's one weakness is terrible headlights in all trims other than the 300C which are HID. The halogen headlights in other trims are dim and very poorly focused, poorly designed reflectors are probably the culprit. Having said that, I have never driven a 300C so cannot comment first hand on the beam quality and focus of those HIDs. I just know that they are much brighter vs the OEM halogens in other trims. Something to keep in mind in case you do a lot of night driving.

Interesting, I find it amazing how some manufactures still really mess that up. Easy fix with some aftermarket assemblies, but then you've got aftermarket assemblies...
Can't be worse than the 09-14 F-150s, like driving by candlelight.

I had a 2013 Chrysler 300. Last August when I travelled to Arkansas Avis gave me a Chrysler 300!! Clearly a 2023 model, it had 120 miles when I picked it up at the airport. That night I eagerly turned on the headlights hoping that in 10 years Chrysler had done something about them. No dice!! The exact same poor focus and beam pattern and lackluster illumination from 10 years prior!!

[warp]

Lights are easily corrected though  with a pair of quality driving lights relayed to the high beams.

Yes and no based on my limited experience. I tried experimenting with different bulbs with the 300 but the beam pattern was very poor...a kind of a V shape with dark spots on the road and the aftermarket bulbs burnt out fast. With the Yukon which I have now sold, the beam pattern with the OE halogens was very good but after 9 years the bulbs were dim and in contrast to all the LED lighting systems they appeared even dimmer. So I got those expensive GTR Lighting Ultra 2 LED bulbs. The high beam worked beautifully, beam pattern like the original OEMs but 5X brighter, in fact it was brighter than any of the OE LEDs on our current vehicles. The low beams with a projector set up however did not work, they need an anti flicker harness and I couldn't be bothered to get that since by then I had decided to sell it, so when I sold the vehicle the low beams were Sylvania LEDs from Canadian Tire, much brighter than the halogen OEMs but far less than the GTRs.

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march deals at some Dodge dealers is 0% interest on up to 72 months  with the 15 to 20% off msrp on stocks.  Looks like some wants to move stuff off the lots

[ktm525]

Lights are easily corrected though  with a pair of quality driving lights relayed to the high beams.

Yes and no based on my limited experience. I tried experimenting with different bulbs with the 300 but the beam pattern was very poor...a kind of a V shape with dark spots on the road and the aftermarket bulbs burnt out fast. With the Yukon which I have now sold, the beam pattern with the OE halogens was very good but after 9 years the bulbs were dim and in contrast to all the LED lighting systems they appeared even dimmer. So I got those expensive GTR Lighting Ultra 2 LED bulbs. The high beam worked beautifully, beam pattern like the original OEMs but 5X brighter, in fact it was brighter than any of the OE LEDs on our current vehicles. The low beams with a projector set up however did not work, they need an anti flicker harness and I couldn't be bothered to get that since by then I had decided to sell it, so when I sold the vehicle the low beams were Sylvania LEDs from Canadian Tire, much brighter than the halogen OEMs but far less than the GTRs.

I am talking separate driving lights relayed to the high beam  so they activate with the high beams. A set of these will turn night into day.

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is there a cheaper alternative to carfax? 70$ to pull records.. danm!

[sailor723]

Drove by the local Nissan store yesterday. Lots of cars lettered up with "$6000 Off"  $10,000 cashback" (Armada I think) and "Zero % Lease Rates" (painted on a Rogue).

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Drove by the local Nissan store yesterday. Lots of cars lettered up with "$6000 Off"  $10,000 cashback" (Armada I think) and "Zero % Lease Rates" (painted on a Rogue).

Finally!

[Bubba]

While a Chrysler 300 or Charger would be nice, my current parking situation would not work for a car that size.  My Corolla is squeezed between a Honda suv and a Dodge Ram.  The trucks owner has hit my car twice with his doors and the mirrors hang into my spot, forcing me to duck around them. A larger car would make things worse.  Yes, I have asked for a different parking spot.


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[erich]

Having owned a 300 for many years, it's a great car with the 3.6 V6, 8 speed combo and has good hwy fuel consumption. It's one weakness is terrible headlights in all trims other than the 300C which are HID. The halogen headlights in other trims are dim and very poorly focused, poorly designed reflectors are probably the culprit. Having said that, I have never driven a 300C so cannot comment first hand on the beam quality and focus of those HIDs. I just know that they are much brighter vs the OEM halogens in other trims. Something to keep in mind in case you do a lot of night driving.

Interesting, I find it amazing how some manufactures still really mess that up. Easy fix with some aftermarket assemblies, but then you've got aftermarket assemblies...
Can't be worse than the 09-14 F-150s, like driving by candlelight.

I had a 2013 Chrysler 300. Last August when I travelled to Arkansas Avis gave me a Chrysler 300!! Clearly a 2023 model, it had 120 miles when I picked it up at the airport. That night I eagerly turned on the headlights hoping that in 10 years Chrysler had done something about them. No dice!! The exact same poor focus and beam pattern and lackluster illumination from 10 years prior!!

Amazing! My first car in Canada was a MY2000 Caravan and I was shocked that the headlights were useless

[Seafoam]

While a Chrysler 300 or Charger would be nice, my current parking situation would not work for a car that size.  My Corolla is squeezed between a Honda suv and a Dodge Ram.  The trucks owner has hit my car twice with his doors and the mirrors hang into my spot, forcing me to duck around them. A larger car would make things worse.  Yes, I have asked for a different parking spot.


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Ignorant people.

[Bubba]

Ignorant people.

In his defense, he is a nice fellow and this parking lot was laid out long before vehicles got so large.

[Gurgie]

Ignorant people.

In his defense, he is a nice fellow and this parking lot was laid out long before vehicles got so large.

You're stuck between 2 wide vehicles, the Passport isn't as wide as the RAM, but they're freaking wide compared to most 5 seater SUV's.