Topic: The car market is turning.

[ktm525]

If you're buying from a reputable dealer, I wouldn't sweat the lien thing - they should have cleared all that up when they acquired it. At 9,500kms I also wouldn't be concerned with an inspection or service records; give it a good look to check for accident damage, which is usually pretty obvious if it's had paint work or anything like that.

Maybe. My friend is a sales manager at a reputable Honda dealer. They got left holding the bag on a S2000 years back. Dealer bought at auction and I guess wasn't thorough enough. Person buying off the Honda dealer figured out something was amiss.

[WP v3.32]

If you're buying from a reputable dealer, I wouldn't sweat the lien thing - they should have cleared all that up when they acquired it. At 9,500kms I also wouldn't be concerned with an inspection or service records; give it a good look to check for accident damage, which is usually pretty obvious if it's had paint work or anything like that.

Maybe. My friend is a sales manager at a reputable Honda dealer. They got left holding the bag on a S2000 years back. Dealer bought at auction and I guess wasn't thorough enough. Person buying off the Honda dealer figured out something was amiss.

it happenned to me when I bought the highlander, the lean was still on. it was litteraly traded in the day before I bought it so there was no time to remove it.  I asked about it and the guy said it would take 30 days to remove so I asked for a letter signed  and company sealed from their head of finance that they would pay it off   He said I was the first person to ever ask for that.


edit:  who paid the lean? the Honda dealer or the guy buying from them?

[WP v3.32]

I've been chatting to this guy too. out of warranty though and a small dent on the tailgate. he just lowered the price

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/red-deer/ram-1500-classic/1684635233

[ktm525]

I've been chatting to this guy too. out of warranty though and a small dent on the tailgate. he just lowered the price

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/red-deer/ram-1500-classic/1684635233

Is it free and clear?

[WP v3.32]

I've been chatting to this guy too. out of warranty though and a small dent on the tailgate. he just lowered the price

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/red-deer/ram-1500-classic/1684635233

Is it free and clear?

I haven't check, I only asked few questions about the rear diff and use of truck(towing) looks like he lives on a farm.  sound like it was the wife's truck and only used it to tow the sled few times, I was told.  he got his wife a pacifica so sounds like he's a dodge guy and might have service records from the dealer.

[revalations]

I've been chatting to this guy too. out of warranty though and a small dent on the tailgate. he just lowered the price

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/red-deer/ram-1500-classic/1684635233

I could possibly get a tailgate for really cheap. I know a guy in Calgary who bought 15 boxes and tailgates that were removed from brand new Rams that were fitted for flatbeds.

Last I talked to him he still had a few left.

[Bubba]

2000 and newer VW Jetta: used car to avoid?

[revalations]

2000 and newer VW Jetta: used car to avoid?

Depends on engine and transmission. The automatics are poop, the 1.8T can be real nuisance too. Best is the ALH/BEW TDI with a 5 speed will outlast humanity itself if maintained. The 2.0’s are also very reliable but pretty gutless.

My two oldest boys have both had several  Jettas throughout the years.

[marcus_go]

2000 and newer VW Jetta: used car to avoid?

Depends on engine and transmission. The automatics are poop, the 1.8T can be real nuisance too. Best is the ALH/BEW TDI with a 5 speed will outlast humanity itself if maintained. The 2.0’s are also very reliable but pretty gutless.

My two oldest boys have both had several  Jettas throughout the years.

The MKIV manual TDIs are great cars if maintained well. My mom owned one for 20 years and it never had much in terms of issues.

[Bubba]

2000 and newer VW Jetta: used car to avoid?

Oops, sorry.
Correction: 2020 and newer Jetta: used car to avoid.

[revalations]

Oh lol. 2020 or newer from my experience are great cars. The little 1.4 turbo moves them along nicely and they get great fuel mileage. I had one for a full week as a rental (2022). Really enjoyed it. Long term I can’t say, but assume typical VW problems (electrical, oil leaks, cel, etc) as they age. I’d say there’s far more reliable cars to be had.

[WP v3.32]

I've been chatting to this guy too. out of warranty though and a small dent on the tailgate. he just lowered the price

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/red-deer/ram-1500-classic/1684635233

I could possibly get a tailgate for really cheap. I know a guy in Calgary who bought 15 boxes and tailgates that were removed from brand new Rams that were fitted for flatbeds.

Last I talked to him he still had a few left.

the dent is not that bad though.

how much would a tailgate be?

[Bubba]

Oh lol. 2020 or newer from my experience are great cars. The little 1.4 turbo moves them along nicely and they get great fuel mileage. I had one for a full week as a rental (2022). Really enjoyed it. Long term I can’t say, but assume typical VW problems (electrical, oil leaks, cel, etc) as they age. I’d say there’s far more reliable cars to be had.

My 2013 Corolla is as reliable as they come, but excruciatingly boring to drive.  I'm reminded of Triple Bob's tagline: Choosing a car based on reliability is like choosing a wife based solely because she is punctual. There is more to it than that...

[Firm]

Oh lol. 2020 or newer from my experience are great cars. The little 1.4 turbo moves them along nicely and they get great fuel mileage. I had one for a full week as a rental (2022). Really enjoyed it. Long term I can’t say, but assume typical VW problems (electrical, oil leaks, cel, etc) as they age. I’d say there’s far more reliable cars to be had.

My 2013 Corolla is as reliable as they come, but excruciatingly boring to drive.  I'm reminded of Triple Bob's tagline: Choosing a car based on reliability is like choosing a wife based solely because she is punctual. There is more to it than that...

Totally agree, but Jetta isn't the cure. Go for something properly fun/interesting and enjoy it.

[Gurgie]

Oh lol. 2020 or newer from my experience are great cars. The little 1.4 turbo moves them along nicely and they get great fuel mileage. I had one for a full week as a rental (2022). Really enjoyed it. Long term I can’t say, but assume typical VW problems (electrical, oil leaks, cel, etc) as they age. I’d say there’s far more reliable cars to be had.

My 2013 Corolla is as reliable as they come, but excruciatingly boring to drive.  I'm reminded of Triple Bob's tagline: Choosing a car based on reliability is like choosing a wife based solely because she is punctual. There is more to it than that...

Totally agree, but Jetta isn't the cure. Go for something properly fun/interesting and enjoy it.

If going VW, go GTI. But this being Bubba, shouldn't you be looking at a 300, or Challenger, or Charger?

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[tortoise]

The MQB is a great platform and will be much more refined than the Corolla with better driving dynamics.

But I'm not sure it'll set your heart on fire.  Easy to live with day to day and they aren't the nightmares they used to be (but still aren't a Corolla)

If you want a VW sedan, go GLI

[warp]

2000 and newer VW Jetta: used car to avoid?

Oops, sorry.
Correction: 2020 and newer Jetta: used car to avoid.

We lease returned the 2020 Jetta, 1.4 liter turbo (147 hp, 184 lb/ft torque), 8 speed automatic transmission just under two months ago and replaced it with a 2024 GLI, 2.0 liter turbo (228 hp, 258 lb/ft torque), 7 speed DSG. The Jetta was very fuel efficient, (could dip below 6.0 liters/100 km if you kept your speed below 120 kmph on the hwy) surprisingly agile in the cut and thrust of urban traffic and had a comfortable suspension but at it's heart it's an appliance which provides transportation. It's an undemanding car that gets the job done.  The GLI on the other hand is a fun car & with it's independent rear suspension has great handling, much firmer suspension and unsurprisingly has a greater appetite for fuel and brings a smile to your face every time you drive it. The base Jetta trim (Trendline??)  is probabaly the last sedan left in 2024 which still offers a 6 speed manual transmission. Back in 2020 and 2021 the manual I believe was available in all trims.

A friend's son had a 2013 Corolla with a manual transmission which was totalled  and scrapped by the insurance company. He replaced it with a then 5 speed Jetta sometime in 2017-2018 I think and could not be happier. Says the Jetta is so much more engaging to drive than his Corolla.

[Dante]

If you are inclined towards VW and not necessarily a sedan, perhaps you can look at a MK7 GTI. Or even a regular Golf. Nicer package overall I would say.
One reason I would stay away from Jetta is potential rust issues.
But like Firm said, there are many other options more exciting than a Corolla.

[PJungnitsch]

We lease returned the 2020 Jetta, 1.4 liter turbo (147 hp, 184 lb/ft torque), 8 speed automatic transmission just under two months ago and replaced it with a 2024 GLI, 2.0 liter turbo (228 hp, 258 lb/ft torque), 7 speed DSG. The Jetta was very fuel efficient, (could dip below 6.0 liters/100 km if you kept your speed below 120 kmph on the hwy) surprisingly agile in the cut and thrust of urban traffic and had a comfortable suspension but at it's heart it's an appliance which provides transportation. It's an undemanding car that gets the job done.  The GLI on the other hand is a fun car & with it's independent rear suspension has great handling, much firmer suspension and unsurprisingly has a greater appetite for fuel and brings a smile to your face every time you drive it. The base Jetta trim (Trendline??)  is probabaly the last sedan left in 2024 which still offers a 6 speed manual transmission. Back in 2020 and 2021 the manual I believe was available in all trims.

Good point, there's two very different Jetta's out there

[JohnnyMac]

Oh lol. 2020 or newer from my experience are great cars. The little 1.4 turbo moves them along nicely and they get great fuel mileage. I had one for a full week as a rental (2022). Really enjoyed it. Long term I can’t say, but assume typical VW problems (electrical, oil leaks, cel, etc) as they age. I’d say there’s far more reliable cars to be had.

My 2013 Corolla is as reliable as they come, but excruciatingly boring to drive.  I'm reminded of Triple Bob's tagline: Choosing a car based on reliability is like choosing a wife based solely because she is punctual. There is more to it than that...

You can have reliable and fun to drive.  Something like a similar year Mazda 3 or Honda Civic would both fit that bill.  Mind you both will likely be a little bit more money due to their resale values being higher, but you get that benefit on the other end also (when you sell).  The Mazda 3 might feel a bit smaller than your Corolla but they are quite nicely appointed inside.  The Civic will feel bigger but will offer decent performance and handling.

While there is nothing wrong with a 2020ish Jetta, I do worry about reliability and cost of maintenance the further you get outside warranty.