Topic: The car market is turning.

[JohnnyMac]

Heard an ad on the radio for a 0% interest lease on the new Nissan Rogue for 24 months.  More signs of things easing a bit.

[Jaeger]

Heard an ad on the radio for a 0% interest lease on the new Nissan Rogue for 24 months.  More signs of things easing a bit.

    It's been a minute since we've seen that.

[Blueprint]

Heard an ad on the radio for a 0% interest lease on the new Nissan Rogue for 24 months.  More signs of things easing a bit.

Heard that too, but 1) it's a 0% lease, so interest/numbers are fuzzy and 2) Rogues aren't exactly flying off the lots anymore, maybe because of that variable displacement turbo 3 cyl.

I know of at least one family who bought a base model last year to get the atmo 2.5 four, but that Canadian exclusivity vanished for 2024. The Rogue itself is pretty nice though.

[JohnnyMac]

Heard an ad on the radio for a 0% interest lease on the new Nissan Rogue for 24 months.  More signs of things easing a bit.

Heard that too, but 1) it's a 0% lease, so interest/numbers are fuzzy and 2) Rogues aren't exactly flying off the lots anymore, maybe because of that variable displacement turbo 3 cyl.

I know of at least one family who bought a base model last year to get the atmo 2.5 four, but that Canadian exclusivity vanished for 2024. The Rogue itself is pretty nice though.

Oh I know, it's not exactly 0% financing on a 60 month loan for a Civic.  But it's certainly something we haven't seen much of for 2+ years, so any positive direction is a good direction in my book.  Would love to see my Supra finance rate under 5% come April 2025.

[PJungnitsch]

Rogues used to everywhere. The old one looked and drove well I thought, we had one as a rental and liked it

The new one looks great IMO, much better than its Mitsubishi twin, but they are about as rare as new model CRV's around here, hardly see them

[warp]

When you go in for the actual buying process, a reduction in the lease/finance rate is offered relative to the posted rate. At least that has been my experience in the last 2-3 weeks.

[WP v3.32]

I think I'll go spend a day at the auction.

[ktm525]

what auction?

[WP v3.32]

what auction?

the crappy one, Regal.   some of the bid results are descent.

[z973]

Heard an ad on the radio for a 0% interest lease on the new Nissan Rogue for 24 months.  More signs of things easing a bit.

Heard that too, but 1) it's a 0% lease, so interest/numbers are fuzzy and 2) Rogues aren't exactly flying off the lots anymore, maybe because of that variable displacement turbo 3 cyl.

I know of at least one family who bought a base model last year to get the atmo 2.5 four, but that Canadian exclusivity vanished for 2024. The Rogue itself is pretty nice though.

It's on the 2023 left ,so they still have old ones and can't move them

[Blueprint]

So Stellantis is back in full form. RAM Classics are 20% off msrp, JGC and others are 10% off, Compass is 5% off and interest rates on purchases are down to 3.99% for 72 months. They are also slashing prices in the US to leave the top end to the upcoming EVs and price the ICE at the low end.

[OliverD]

So Stellantis is back in full form. RAM Classics are 20% off msrp, JGC and others are 10% off, Compass is 5% off and interest rates on purchases are down to 3.99% for 72 months. They are also slashing prices in the US to leave the top end to the upcoming EVs and price the ICE at the low end.

Yet some U.S. dealers are still marking up Wagoneers by $10k.

[Blueprint]

There's zero demand for these here. A colleague spent a fortune in gas on the press vehicle, over 20 l/100 km for the week.

[TheHire]

Can't give Wagoneers away... I've got one in stock that's been on the lot for ~200 days and not a lick of interest.

[WP v3.32]

Can't give Wagoneers away... I've got one in stock that's been on the lot for ~200 days and not a lick of interest.

Why is that?  people just get the grand cherooke instead?

[WP v3.32]

So Stellantis is back in full form. RAM Classics are 20% off msrp, JGC and others are 10% off, Compass is 5% off and interest rates on purchases are down to 3.99% for 72 months. They are also slashing prices in the US to leave the top end to the upcoming EVs and price the ICE at the low end.

They've been like that for a while.

[JohnnyMac]

Can't give Wagoneers away... I've got one in stock that's been on the lot for ~200 days and not a lick of interest.

Why is that?  people just get the grand cherooke instead?

I tend to think most people would rather spend their money on the other proven full size SUV's in the market, either from GM, Lexus, Ford, etc.

[PJungnitsch]

So Stellantis is back in full form. RAM Classics are 20% off msrp, JGC and others are 10% off, Compass is 5% off and interest rates on purchases are down to 3.99% for 72 months. They are also slashing prices in the US to leave the top end to the upcoming EVs and price the ICE at the low end.

They've been like that for a while.

So much for the idea that manufacturers can raise prices to whatever they want and consumers will just pay. Chryco lots are still just jammed with various new Jeep/Ram/Dodge products around here

[Firm]

Can't give Wagoneers away... I've got one in stock that's been on the lot for ~200 days and not a lick of interest.

Why is that?  people just get the grand cherooke instead?

I tend to think most people would rather spend their money on the other proven full size SUV's in the market, either from GM, Lexus, Ford, etc.

Probably a bit of both. Typical Jeep customers are not your 6-figure full-size SUV buyers...the Germans, Lexus and GM/Cadillac have those customers, combined with the fact that there's very little to differentiate the LWB Grand Cherokee from the Wagoneer for those who do venture into a Jeep dealer.

[OliverD]

Can't give Wagoneers away... I've got one in stock that's been on the lot for ~200 days and not a lick of interest.

Why is that?  people just get the grand cherooke instead?

I tend to think most people would rather spend their money on the other proven full size SUV's in the market, either from GM, Lexus, Ford, etc.

Probably a bit of both. Typical Jeep customers are not your 6-figure full-size SUV buyers...the Germans, Lexus and GM/Cadillac have those customers, combined with the fact that there's very little to differentiate the LWB Grand Cherokee from the Wagoneer for those who do venture into a Jeep dealer.

Which is funny since Jeep buyers have traditionally had high incomes. I wonder if they would have had more success with an upscale product that wasn't quite as large.