Topic: Top 11 Cars Worth Waiting for in 2023

[ArticSteve]

Is that Stellantis?

[Seafoam]

Although already popular options in the segment, the Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon return for 2023 with all-new and impressive visual upgrades both inside and out, and some real power. The standard turbocharged 2.7L four-cylinder engine for all versions will be offered in three different states of tune. The trucks will include serious feature upgrades and, most importantly, the magnificent ZR2 version returns.

That one in the photo I bettya runs $70K CAD.  2.7 4 banger ... that's real power 

Yup and no V6 or diesel available.

[Layne]

will they ever make the type R  AWd?

That would go against the ethos of the Type R brand.  Type S Integra maybe, although that looks like it will be FWD as well.

[Layne]

will they ever make the type R  AWd?

When it becomes a Hybrid or PHEV, so likely the next generation or more.  That being said, why would they even be pressured to do so, it's already the fastest around a track of all the hot hatches.  In order to be the fastest 0-60 they wouldn't just need AWD, they'd need an automatic, likely a DSG.

Quicker than the GR Corolla?

On Car and Driver's Lightning Lap the FK8 Type R matched the Focus RS time, with the Mini GP Works just nipping that time.  Golf R DSG was only 0.4 slower.  All of those required AWD trickery of course while the Civic does the impossible with FWD.

The FL5 may be quicker, however.  We should know in a month or two.

[Seafoam]

 ^^ The Throttle House guys did  a test. From a dead stop the Toyota won. On a roll the Honda won. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePldSI0SGCg  Just straight line though.

[rrocket]

Is that Stellantis?

Yes. And LG

[JohnnyMac]

will they ever make the type R  AWd?

When it becomes a Hybrid or PHEV, so likely the next generation or more.  That being said, why would they even be pressured to do so, it's already the fastest around a track of all the hot hatches.  In order to be the fastest 0-60 they wouldn't just need AWD, they'd need an automatic, likely a DSG.

Quicker than the GR Corolla?

On Car and Driver's Lightning Lap the FK8 Type R matched the Focus RS time, with the Mini GP Works just nipping that time.  Golf R DSG was only 0.4 slower.  All of those required AWD trickery of course while the Civic does the impossible with FWD.

The FL5 may be quicker, however.  We should know in a month or two.

You must not have looked at the current lightning lap, which has the Civic Type R limited edition 2021 faster than all of those…by quite a bit.  3 seconds faster to be exact.

But I was only referring to acceleration numbers from a stop, which is where AWD and DSG are best.  The GR Corolla is great, but not as fast as the Golf R to 60mph, not as fast as the Civic Type R from a roll, and I am going to guess not as fast around a track as the Type R either.  The new Type R may be marginally faster at most, but if so it’s likely down to ungraded tires.