Topic: 2024 Honda Accord

[ArticSteve]

The Accord 1.5 T would be a massive error.  The Hybrid version is the only option.

[tortoise]

That was my conclusion after looking at the pricing. No brainer.

[Ontariodriver]

Getting back to the Accord, this car is pretty big too. Accord, 195.7 x 73.3 x 57.1 inches  vs Camry, 192.1-192.7 x 72.4 x 56.9 inches

Accord is Avalon sized now, interesting design choice

Avalon: 195.9 X 72.8 X 56.5

That's is a big car with piddle 1.5 turbo engine. That engine is going to work hard.

The Accord 1.5 T would be a massive error.  The Hybrid version is the only option.

Agree, Honda, isn't really thinking, they just ticking boxes on fuel economy charts. Hybrid only, forget the turbo nonsense.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

^^^ Honda has gone all in on turbocharging, unfortunately. 

I'd look for the next pilot to also have a turbocharged 4-cylinder - hopefully something larger than a 1.5.  Probably their 2.0T from the upper trim Accord.

[Jaeger]

Getting back to the Accord, this car is pretty big too. Accord, 195.7 x 73.3 x 57.1 inches  vs Camry, 192.1-192.7 x 72.4 x 56.9 inches

Accord is Avalon sized now, interesting design choice

Avalon: 195.9 X 72.8 X 56.5

Well the Civic is Accord sized now, so makes sense. 

[ArticSteve]

^^^ Honda has gone all in on turbocharging, unfortunately. 

I'd look for the next pilot to also have a turbocharged 4-cylinder - hopefully something larger than a 1.5.  Probably their 2.0T from the upper trim Accord.

The 2023 Pilot is 3.5 V6 only.  Pricing not yet available.  This is essentially a technical copy of a 2022 MDX.  Will be a wicked seller.  Cheapest 2023 MDX is the stupid looking A-Spec @$69K plus tax.  The normal looking model is the Elite at $73K    The TECH version is GONE.

On the other hand the Highlander is no longer V6 but 2.4 Turbo.  That's really got to suck.  However, I suspect new Highlander buyers won't even know what kind of motor it has or care.  8.4% on a Highlander lease for 48mth. 

I have a cottage neighbour who had a 2022 Highlander XLE AWD in Black.  Last summer they had a bunch of dash lights come on and the dealer finally after many attempts at a fix replaced the transfer case.  That's the story I got.  This really irritated them and they lost faith in the car.    So they ordered a 2023 new XLE AWD in White.  So I walked by at Xmas time and they were out and I got the tour and even though I think they look like shite, I said how nice it was and so on.  Then the husband says that he was surprised to find out after receipt that it came with a 4 Turbo instead of the V6.  Thought that it would be fine, but you could tell his disappointment.  I didn't rub it in.   

 

[Seafoam]

^^ Funny how they were annoyed with the 22's problem so they go out and replace it with a 23.  I would have went with another brand.
Some people just have money to burn.

[ktm525]

it's called a slappy

[Great_Big_Abyss]

^^^ Honda has gone all in on turbocharging, unfortunately. 

I'd look for the next pilot to also have a turbocharged 4-cylinder - hopefully something larger than a 1.5.  Probably their 2.0T from the upper trim Accord.

The 2023 Pilot is 3.5 V6 only.  Pricing not yet available.  This is essentially a technical copy of a 2022 MDX.  Will be a wicked seller.  Cheapest 2023 MDX is the stupid looking A-Spec @$69K plus tax.  The normal looking model is the Elite at $73K    The TECH version is GONE.

Well, that's something, at least.  Good for Honda. 

[ArticSteve]

^^ Funny how they were annoyed with the 22's problem so they go out and replace it with a 23.  I would have went with another brand.
Some people just have money to burn.

Two Ontario retired teachers.  Cash for life.

[Seafoam]

it's called a slappy

Quite a few of those on here.

[ArticSteve]

^^ Funny how they were annoyed with the 22's problem so they go out and replace it with a 23.  I would have went with another brand.
Some people just have money to burn.

In their defense it's pretty hard to cross shop vehicles from other brands in 2022.  They got a priority on a 2023 Highlander because they were trading in a 2022,  Essentially making a big pay day for the Dealer.  My former shop.

[marcus_go]

Thank goodness Honda is keeping the V6 in the Pilot. That means the Ridgeline will keep the V6 when the next gen comes out in a year or so.

I am wondering if Toyota will stuff a 4-cylinder turbo in the next gen Tacoma.

[Gurgie]

Thank goodness Honda is keeping the V6 in the Pilot. That means the Ridgeline will keep the V6 when the next gen comes out in a year or so.

I am wondering if Toyota will stuff a 4-cylinder turbo in the next gen Tacoma.

And hopefully a V6 in the next gen Passport.

The Taco would be way more fun with a blown 4 pot... can't be any worse than the crappy 6 it has now.

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[KD]

Thank goodness Honda is keeping the V6 in the Pilot. That means the Ridgeline will keep the V6 when the next gen comes out in a year or so.

I am wondering if Toyota will stuff a 4-cylinder turbo in the next gen Tacoma.

And hopefully a V6 in the next gen Passport.

The Taco would be way more fun with a blown 4 pot... can't be any worse than the crappy 6 it has now.

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Agree on both points there.  The Taco with the current 3.5 V6 running Atkinson cycle is a dog.   I have no plans on buying anything right now but if I did the Passport/Pilot/RDX would be top of list for sure.  Mostly due to the creamy V6. 

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Thank goodness Honda is keeping the V6 in the Pilot. That means the Ridgeline will keep the V6 when the next gen comes out in a year or so.

I am wondering if Toyota will stuff a 4-cylinder turbo in the next gen Tacoma.

And hopefully a V6 in the next gen Passport.

The Taco would be way more fun with a blown 4 pot... can't be any worse than the crappy 6 it has now.

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Agree on both points there.  The Taco with the current 3.5 V6 running Atkinson cycle is a dog.   I have no plans on buying anything right now but if I did the Passport/Pilot/RDX would be top of list for sure.  Mostly due to the creamy V6.

I think given how well the Ranger is doing with its blown 2.3, the Tacoma has to follow suit (I believe the next Colorado/Canyon will have blow four-pots, probably the 2.7T from the Silverado).  A turbo-four is actually turning out to be a great engine for a small truck - tons of low down torque, and who cares if it loses steam up top!

[EV-Light]

Thank goodness Honda is keeping the V6 in the Pilot. That means the Ridgeline will keep the V6 when the next gen comes out in a year or so.

I am wondering if Toyota will stuff a 4-cylinder turbo in the next gen Tacoma.

And hopefully a V6 in the next gen Passport.

The Taco would be way more fun with a blown 4 pot... can't be any worse than the crappy 6 it has now.

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Agree on both points there.  The Taco with the current 3.5 V6 running Atkinson cycle is a dog.   I have no plans on buying anything right now but if I did the Passport/Pilot/RDX would be top of list for sure.  Mostly due to the creamy V6.

I think given how well the Ranger is doing with its blown 2.3, the Tacoma has to follow suit (I believe the next Colorado/Canyon will have blow four-pots, probably the 2.7T from the Silverado).  A turbo-four is actually turning out to be a great engine for a small truck - tons of low down torque, and who cares if it loses steam up top!

agreed but they need to offer other powertrains as well - perhaps a plug in hybrid?

the next Ranger will 100% have ICE or EV powertrains - 2026 isn't very far away, if Ford doesn't do it they will be dumb...the 26 quota for new vehicles sales that are EV and PHEV is like what between 25-35% - and that's across Canada, California and all the other states that follow CA's emissions rules! anyone not reaching that quota will have to start paying big money to sell their vehicles. Unfortunately for Toyota, 'self charging' hybrids are not part of that quota LOL

So Toyota will need like what - at least 5 EV or PHEVs in their line up by then...they better start thinking about what else can go PHEV or start making GOOD EVs asap...26 is just the first goal post, 2030 is not that far away given how long it takes to develop new cars / tech

[marcus_go]

A hybrid or plug in hybrid mid-size truck would be awesome. Way better choice IMO than a full-electric. If it was a plug-in, all you would need would be around 75-100 km of range. The previous gen MDX came with a hybrid offering. I am sure Honda could do the same with the new gen Pilot, Passport and Ridgeline.

[ArticSteve]

If I was in the market for a mid-size pickup it would be the Nissan Frontier hands down.

The Savage Geese and his side kick Jack declared the lastest Ranger as JUNK.  They have declared the F150 as the best 1/2 ton.

[Ontariodriver]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jdPNJLe0fQ

Fantastic review from Savagegeese 15 and a bit seconds.