Topic: 2024 Honda Accord

[Seafoam]

 You sound like the Electric Viking.

[tortoise]

They are still selling at a rate of ~200k cars per year in the US.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

But why?! They should spend their time trying to figure out how to electrify their fleet…

Sedans are dead…not worth dumping more investment $$$ on them.


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As every other manufacturer drops out of the large sedan market, the existing sedans will be able to gobble up that market share.  Shrinking marketshare, to be fair, but still a larger piece of a smaller pie. 

I think with the Accord, Honda clearly makes THE best mid-size/large sedan.  They'll be in this segment for a good long while to come.

[EV-Light]

They are still selling at a rate of ~200k cars per year in the US.

I highly doubt they will even break into 200s this year…
The market is in a constant shrinking state with more and more people moving to CUVs

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[EV-Light]

But why?! They should spend their time trying to figure out how to electrify their fleet…

Sedans are dead…not worth dumping more investment $$$ on them.


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As every other manufacturer drops out of the large sedan market, the existing sedans will be able to gobble up that market share.  Shrinking marketshare, to be fair, but still a larger piece of a smaller pie. 

I think with the Accord, Honda clearly makes THE best mid-size/large sedan.  They'll be in this segment for a good long while to come.

But that hasn’t happened…look at the Accord numbers over the years (US)…Ford, GM and Stellantis all left the sedan market by 2020…but Accord sales never picked up.

I highly doubt they will even break into 200s this year…




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[rrocket]

^^Arguably, auto sales have been a bit screwy since 2020....not sure I'd call those "normal" sales figures.

And EV sales in North America is still a borderline niche market....~6%

[JohnnyMac]

But why?! They should spend their time trying to figure out how to electrify their fleet…

Sedans are dead…not worth dumping more investment $$$ on them.


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As every other manufacturer drops out of the large sedan market, the existing sedans will be able to gobble up that market share.  Shrinking marketshare, to be fair, but still a larger piece of a smaller pie. 

I think with the Accord, Honda clearly makes THE best mid-size/large sedan.  They'll be in this segment for a good long while to come.

But that hasn’t happened…look at the Accord numbers over the years (US)…Ford, GM and Stellantis all left the sedan market by 2020…but Accord sales never picked up.

I highly doubt they will even break into 200s this year…




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I tend to think he implied that market share has increased, not that totals sales have risen in that segment.  Also as pointed out 2020-now hasn’t exactly been normal times in new auto sales.

[bridgecity]

If we used the logic of Taurii, how many vehicles would we lose if we said that once you drop below 200k in sales in the US it’s a dead market?

[quadzilla]

The top vehicles (from #25-16) sold in the USA in 2021 by Car and Driver

25. Honda Pilot (143,062 units sold)
24. Toyota 4Runner (144,696 units sold)
23. Ford Escape (145,415 units sold)
22. Hyundai Tucson (150,949 units sold)
21. Subaru Outback (154,623 units sold)
20. Subaru Forester (154,723 units sold)
19. Chevrolet Equinox (165,323 units sold)
18. Mazda CX-5 (168,383 units sold)
17. Tesla Model Y (172,700 units sold, est.)
16. Honda Accord (202,676 units sold)

[rrocket]

The top cars (from #25-16) sold in the USA in 2021 by Car and Driver

25. Honda Pilot (143,062 units sold)
24. Toyota 4Runner (144,696 units sold)
23. Ford Escape (145,415 units sold)
22. Hyundai Tucson (150,949 units sold)
21. Subaru Outback (154,623 units sold)
20. Subaru Forester (154,723 units sold)
19. Chevrolet Equinox (165,323 units sold)
18. Mazda CX-5 (168,383 units sold)
17. Tesla Model Y (172,700 units sold, est.)
16. Honda Accord (202,676 units sold)

I only see 1 car (maybe 2?) on your list of "cars".

[quadzilla]

The top cars (from #25-16) sold in the USA in 2021 by Car and Driver

25. Honda Pilot (143,062 units sold)
24. Toyota 4Runner (144,696 units sold)
23. Ford Escape (145,415 units sold)
22. Hyundai Tucson (150,949 units sold)
21. Subaru Outback (154,623 units sold)
20. Subaru Forester (154,723 units sold)
19. Chevrolet Equinox (165,323 units sold)
18. Mazda CX-5 (168,383 units sold)
17. Tesla Model Y (172,700 units sold, est.)
16. Honda Accord (202,676 units sold)

I only see 1 car (maybe 2?) on your list of "cars".

Right. I meant to say vehicles and have updated my post.

[rrocket]

The top cars (from #25-16) sold in the USA in 2021 by Car and Driver

25. Honda Pilot (143,062 units sold)
24. Toyota 4Runner (144,696 units sold)
23. Ford Escape (145,415 units sold)
22. Hyundai Tucson (150,949 units sold)
21. Subaru Outback (154,623 units sold)
20. Subaru Forester (154,723 units sold)
19. Chevrolet Equinox (165,323 units sold)
18. Mazda CX-5 (168,383 units sold)
17. Tesla Model Y (172,700 units sold, est.)
16. Honda Accord (202,676 units sold)

I only see 1 car (maybe 2?) on your list of "cars".

Right. I meant to say vehicles and have updated my post.

Now I'm curious on what the top selling cars are!!

I'd say Corolla and Civic??

[quadzilla]

Just for you...

15. Jeep Wrangler (204,610 units sold)
14. Ford Explorer (219,871 units sold)
13. GMC Sierra (248,924 units sold)
12. Toyota Corolla (248,993 units sold)
11. Toyota Tacoma (252,520 units sold)
10. Honda Civic (263,787 units sold)
9. Toyota Highlander (264,128 units sold)
8. Jeep Grand Cherokee (264,444 units sold)
7. Nissan Rogue (285,602 units sold)
6. Toyota Camry (313,795 units sold)
5. Honda CR-V (361,271 units sold)
4. Toyota RAV4 (407,739 units sold)
3. Chevrolet Silverado (519,774 units sold)
2. Ram Pickup (569,388 units sold)
1. Ford F-Series (726,004 units sold)

[EV-Light]

The top cars (from #25-16) sold in the USA in 2021 by Car and Driver

25. Honda Pilot (143,062 units sold)
24. Toyota 4Runner (144,696 units sold)
23. Ford Escape (145,415 units sold)
22. Hyundai Tucson (150,949 units sold)
21. Subaru Outback (154,623 units sold)
20. Subaru Forester (154,723 units sold)
19. Chevrolet Equinox (165,323 units sold)
18. Mazda CX-5 (168,383 units sold)
17. Tesla Model Y (172,700 units sold, est.)
16. Honda Accord (202,676 units sold)

I only see 1 car (maybe 2?) on your list of "cars".

Right. I meant to say vehicles and have updated my post.

Now I'm curious on what the top selling cars are!!

I'd say Corolla and Civic??

Maybe? Lots of Camrys and Civics at the rental counter nowadays though…they became one of the cheapest rentals one can get.


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[tortoise]

And it's no surprise that Accord sales would dip towards the end of its lifecycle.

[OliverD]

Just for you...

15. Jeep Wrangler (204,610 units sold)
14. Ford Explorer (219,871 units sold)
13. GMC Sierra (248,924 units sold)
12. Toyota Corolla (248,993 units sold)
11. Toyota Tacoma (252,520 units sold)
10. Honda Civic (263,787 units sold)
9. Toyota Highlander (264,128 units sold)
8. Jeep Grand Cherokee (264,444 units sold)
7. Nissan Rogue (285,602 units sold)
6. Toyota Camry (313,795 units sold)
5. Honda CR-V (361,271 units sold)
4. Toyota RAV4 (407,739 units sold)
3. Chevrolet Silverado (519,774 units sold)
2. Ram Pickup (569,388 units sold)
1. Ford F-Series (726,004 units sold)

Wow, down to just three cars in the top 15.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I'm surprised the Camry outsells the Civic and Corolla.  I think the US likes its large cars.  I imagine those two would outsell the Camry in Canada.

[rrocket]

I'm surprised the Camry outsells the Civic and Corolla.  I think the US likes its large cars.  I imagine those two would outsell the Camry in Canada.

I agree.

[revalations]

I'm surprised the Camry outsells the Civic and Corolla.  I think the US likes its large cars.  I imagine those two would outsell the Camry in Canada.

I was surprised as well. Seems around here I see way more Civics and Corollas. Was also interesting to see that GM in fact outsells the F150. Since the Sierra and Silverado are really the exact same product with different stying, also noteworthy that Ram still makes the old style truck and markets it as Ram "classic".

[quadzilla]

Top 10 vehicles for Canada 2021 (driving.ca)

10. Nissan Rogue: 29,926
9. Hyundai Kona: 31,101
8. Toyota Corolla: 40,019
7. Honda Civic: 43,556
6. Honda CR-V: 50,935
5. Chevrolet Silverado: 51,684
4. GMC Sierra: 53,757
3. Toyota RAV4: 61,934
2. Ram P/U: 73,467
1. Ford F-Series: 116,401