Topic: 2023 Toyota Sequoia

[dkaz]

My ex's Explorer has 4 Auto, 4 High, and 4 Low only. I tell her to keep it on 4 Auto unless it's really slippery then go 4 High.

[EV Dan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XFM1YY95jI

Here it is. AoA.

Hybrid is standard.

[revalations]

I like the hybrid system. Styling is as expected, I nether love not hate it. Proportions look off on this one for some reason.


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[Great_Big_Abyss]

Wow.  Looks great.  9000lbs tow rating is impressive.  435hp is even more impressive.  I'm curious what the fuel economy numbers will be for the hybrid equipped Sequoias and Tundras. 

This thing won't come cheap. 

[OliverD]

Looks pretty good. That front grille is definitely a lot more palatable than the one on the Tundra. I wonder if anyone will be doing grille swaps.

I wonder what their sales targets are. The last gen Sequoia was never a big seller and was down to 8k in the U.S. last year and 417 in Canada. The last gen was introduced into an economic collapse and has averaged about 12k sales since 2010.

[JohnnyMac]

Seeing as the current Sequoia is just over $70K, but is pretty much the second to top trim level standard.  Any guesses on how much this might be for our market?  If we get the lower trim level I could see it being a little cheaper than the current Limited model, but I think we can assume it'll be mid-$60K's at the minimum.  Would be great family hauler and I think I'd pick this over the GM's with the diesel engine.

I like the looks of it and if I had a family and did some hauling this would be a no brainer in my mind.  Maybe I can convince my wife we need seating for 6-7 for our two boxers, upgrade her Rav4 for this thing in a few years  LOL

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I'm sooooo tempted. 

To be honest, I was turned off a little from the last Sequoia by its dowdy looks and paltry tow rating.  But this new Sequoia fixes ALL of that. 

[PJungnitsch]

Going by the amount of Escalades/Tahoes/etc GM sells, potentially a big (and profitable) market out there.

Wonder how much production they can manage, especially as it will be built side by side with the Tundra which has always had production limitations

[bridgecity]

Ya I like this.  Much needed.  The last gen was "forgotten".  It didn't even get the styling and interior updates that the Tundra received along the way.

[JohnnyMac]

Going by the amount of Escalades/Tahoes/etc GM sells, potentially a big (and profitable) market out there.

Wonder how much production they can manage, especially as it will be built side by side with the Tundra which has always had production limitations

I thought I heard something about Toyota doing a big expansion of the factory that builds the Tundra and Sequoia?  Whatever they build, I'm sure it'll sell.  But if it's anything like the rest of their hybrids, they'll be hard to find on lots and usually sold before they get there.  I think it's a great strategy by them just offering the Hybrid.  The only thing that they might miss out on is a basic RWD non-hybrid trim level for the US market.  I seem to think GM sells quite a few of that configuration of their full size SUV's. 

[warp]

I hope that this new generation has some sort of an LSD or locking differential, at least for the rear wheels. If I am not mistaken the last generation had an open differential and was pretty much useless if it got 2 diagonal wheels up in the air.

[JohnnyMac]

I hope that this new generation has some sort of an LSD or locking differential, at least for the rear wheels. If I am not mistaken the last generation had an open differential and was pretty much useless if it got 2 diagonal wheels up in the air.

Even the TRD Pro didn't have LSD's?  I find that hard to believe but maybe so.

[ArticSteve]

I thought I heard something about Toyota doing a big expansion of the factory that builds the Tundra and Sequoia?

Commencing this year all Tacos will be assembled in Mexico.  So that doubles the production of Tundras/Sequoias in Texas.

[valuator]

This is extremely attractive as a new family hauler.  Fits in my garage, likely won't use much if any more fuel than the Pilot, durable, and low depreciation.  I personally would not touch an Expedition, and out of the usual contenders I would take this.

[warp]

I hope that this new generation has some sort of an LSD or locking differential, at least for the rear wheels. If I am not mistaken the last generation had an open differential and was pretty much useless if it got 2 diagonal wheels up in the air.

Even the TRD Pro didn't have LSD's?  I find that hard to believe but maybe so.

I think Toyota has something called auto LSD which they used in that generation of Tundras and Sequoias.

So the 2 videos directly below gives a demonstration of that auto LSD system on a Tundra. Not very impressive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYLju1lQ5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_KyoSF9DYc

[JohnnyMac]

I hope that this new generation has some sort of an LSD or locking differential, at least for the rear wheels. If I am not mistaken the last generation had an open differential and was pretty much useless if it got 2 diagonal wheels up in the air.

Even the TRD Pro didn't have LSD's?  I find that hard to believe but maybe so.

I think Toyota has something called auto LSD which they used in that generation of Tundras and Sequoias.

So the 2 videos directly below gives a demonstration of that auto LSD system on a Tundra. Not very impressive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYLju1lQ5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_KyoSF9DYc

So they had one, it was just shitty.  I can believe that.

[Gurgie]

It's a looker! Not sure about how those 3rd row seats fold tho.

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[bridgecity]

I hope that this new generation has some sort of an LSD or locking differential, at least for the rear wheels. If I am not mistaken the last generation had an open differential and was pretty much useless if it got 2 diagonal wheels up in the air.

Even the TRD Pro didn't have LSD's?  I find that hard to believe but maybe so.

I think Toyota has something called auto LSD which they used in that generation of Tundras and Sequoias.

So the 2 videos directly below gives a demonstration of that auto LSD system on a Tundra. Not very impressive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYLju1lQ5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_KyoSF9DYc

So they had one, it was just shitty.  I can believe that.

Ya, brake actuated LSD.  Works better than nothing, but not great.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I hope that this new generation has some sort of an LSD or locking differential, at least for the rear wheels. If I am not mistaken the last generation had an open differential and was pretty much useless if it got 2 diagonal wheels up in the air.

Even the TRD Pro didn't have LSD's?  I find that hard to believe but maybe so.

I think Toyota has something called auto LSD which they used in that generation of Tundras and Sequoias.

So the 2 videos directly below gives a demonstration of that auto LSD system on a Tundra. Not very impressive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYLju1lQ5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_KyoSF9DYc

So they had one, it was just shitty.  I can believe that.

Ya, brake actuated LSD.  Works better than nothing, but not great.

I never had any problems with mine.  Honestly, for the situations in which you'll find yourself in these trucks, I think the auto-LSD is just fine.  Like, this is a $70 - $80k SUV.  Who in their right mind is going to take it off the beaten path?  You really just need 4x4 for the heavy snow dumps, and that's about all you need.

That being said, if it DOES have a locker, I suppose more capability can't hurt, even if you never actually use it...


Anyway, this is definitely on my radar as a potential new vehicle in a couple of years.  We'll see if the craziness caused by the chip shortage ever ends. 

[warp]

I hope that this new generation has some sort of an LSD or locking differential, at least for the rear wheels. If I am not mistaken the last generation had an open differential and was pretty much useless if it got 2 diagonal wheels up in the air.

Even the TRD Pro didn't have LSD's?  I find that hard to believe but maybe so.

I think Toyota has something called auto LSD which they used in that generation of Tundras and Sequoias.

So the 2 videos directly below gives a demonstration of that auto LSD system on a Tundra. Not very impressive:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYLju1lQ5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_KyoSF9DYc

So they had one, it was just shitty.  I can believe that.

Toyota has good 4WD systems on the 4Runner, Tacoma and Land Cruiser, wonder why they don't fit those on the Tundra and Sequoia.