Topic: 2023 C8 Z06

[Gurgie]

The only car I really hanker after right now is an old (2006-2008) manual Gallardo. Should I start a saving up thread? 

How about a 2004 with low mileage?

https://automobile-lambert.com/product/lamborghini-gallardo/

[JG20]

Even my wife was wondering why I haven't done any mods to my STI. While it would be nice to have more power, the STI easily gets up to licence revoking speeds so what's the point? I love how it handles in the dry, wet, and snow. If I were to pick up another fun car, I don't necessarily need it to be faster, but it would need to be more fun.

[Triple Bob]

The only car I really hanker after right now is an old (2006-2008) manual Gallardo. Should I start a saving up thread? 

How about a 2004 with low mileage?

https://automobile-lambert.com/product/lamborghini-gallardo/

That will do, best colour too!

[Triple Bob]

What....A....Beast!

It is expected to do the quarter mile in the mid 10's.  It will be at the top of all performance metrics for production cars.


And yet I would rather have a Cayman GT4.

I think if I had a fun manual car beside the Vette I'd likely choose the Z06 over a Cayman GT4 or Lotus Emira.  But if I only had one fun car, it pretty much has to offer a manual, so that would exclude all C8 Vettes.

But the Z06 is supposed to be your fun car. 2 fun cars? High roller...

Well I'd say the majority of people who buy a car like the Z06 have multiple cars.  I would think something like a manual GTI/R, WRX/STI, Civic Si/Type R, would all make a good second vehicle for daily driver and winter months.

True, but I'd still rather a GT4 

Totally get it, nothing wrong with a Porsche GT4.

Yea, my Boxster has further opened my eyes to this.

With the new speeding laws these days, I think my 640hp Supra would have me in lockup!

Whereas the 306hp in my Boxster feels more "useable" on the streets.

I'm not saying I wouldn't totally dig a 500hp car these days (I would)..and I'm still endeavor to get one again..but my license would be on thin ice! LOL [emoji38]

^This!

I 100% agree. Maybe I'm getting old, but the announcement of any street car with over 500bhp doesn't do anything for me these days. Same with super fast bikes too.

With the current laws, and police cars equipped with forward facing radar, you're screwed if you come around a corner or over the crest of a hill going well over the limit.  This is part of the reason I got rid of the FZ-09 and the C63, both tempted me well to go well over the posted limit on a daily basis.

I'm more interested in stuff 10-20 years old now, that were fast at the time, or light vehicles that just don't need huge amounts of power like an Elise.

Oh I still love fast stuff!

But for bikes, my heart will always be with supermotos. Stupid light allows for things you can't otherwise do on other bikes.

But yea...your just once pull away from losing your license and car these days.

as someone who now has a car well over 500hp, I don't know if I ever could go back. The feeling of...dominance, freedom, possibility...is very addictive. Wanna pass? Just need a tiny gap! Just dont keep your foot in it too long...you will lose your license very fast. Now, I also see the appeal of lower powered sports cars where the connection to the car is the most important part, and my XJR very rarely gets to fully stretch its legs with 620hp on tap....but that possibility of power under your foot is very reassuring. I am spoiled, and I like it.

Yeah, but you're not known for your well thought out decision making tho'... 

[JohnnyMac]

The mark up on these will be $20 to $30K easy.

Oh here we go again.  Reality check, there is a list of dealers in the states that sell at MSRP and here in Canada it's the same.  Shop around, sure you might have to wait longer, but it IS possible to buy at MSRP.  I will state that you are correct that SOME dealers will expect a big markup, but by no means is it all dealers.

Every dealer in Alberta was (and is) charging  ADM on regular C8's.  You cannot currently buy one at MSRP in Alberta.  I can't comment on other provinces.

I appreciate your GM nut hugging but dealers are a funny bunch.  The ZO6 will be worse given its limited manufacture.

Just so you know I got word that a former member from this forum has a deposit on a Z06 at MSRP, and he has a friend who has a deposit on a Blackwing again at MSRP.

And just to get it straight, I'm not "nut hugging" GM dealers, I'd say the same thing about a Porsche GT4, Mustang GT500, etc.  I'm not really a GM fan for the most part, but I do admit that the C8 Vette and the Blackwings are mighty impressive.

Lucky folks.  Do they know the dealer?  What relationship do they have with the dealership?

Well one of them had a Camaro 1LE at one point, so he is likely buying from the same dealer, as far as I know, other than buying a couple of cars from them he doesn't have any other association.  His friend with the Blackwing I'm not sure, don't even know if it's the same dealer.  Also, it's not luck, it's doing your homework and buying from a dealer that doesn't do shady stuff like Mark up their crap excessively.  I haven't heard anyone in our city who has paid more than MSRP plus maybe a small admin fee or some extra floor mats or other things.

[Gurgie]

The mark up on these will be $20 to $30K easy.

Oh here we go again.  Reality check, there is a list of dealers in the states that sell at MSRP and here in Canada it's the same.  Shop around, sure you might have to wait longer, but it IS possible to buy at MSRP.  I will state that you are correct that SOME dealers will expect a big markup, but by no means is it all dealers.

Every dealer in Alberta was (and is) charging  ADM on regular C8's.  You cannot currently buy one at MSRP in Alberta.  I can't comment on other provinces.

I appreciate your GM nut hugging but dealers are a funny bunch.  The ZO6 will be worse given its limited manufacture.

Just so you know I got word that a former member from this forum has a deposit on a Z06 at MSRP, and he has a friend who has a deposit on a Blackwing again at MSRP.

And just to get it straight, I'm not "nut hugging" GM dealers, I'd say the same thing about a Porsche GT4, Mustang GT500, etc.  I'm not really a GM fan for the most part, but I do admit that the C8 Vette and the Blackwings are mighty impressive.

Lucky folks.  Do they know the dealer?  What relationship do they have with the dealership?

Well one of them had a Camaro 1LE at one point, so he is likely buying from the same dealer, as far as I know, other than buying a couple of cars from them he doesn't have any other association.  His friend with the Blackwing I'm not sure, don't even know if it's the same dealer.  Also, it's not luck, it's doing your homework and buying from a dealer that doesn't do shady stuff like Mark up their crap excessively.  I haven't heard anyone in our city who has paid more than MSRP plus maybe a small admin fee or some extra floor mats or other things.

Guessing you're talking about Vman?

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[evil_twin]

The mark up on these will be $20 to $30K easy.

Oh here we go again.  Reality check, there is a list of dealers in the states that sell at MSRP and here in Canada it's the same.  Shop around, sure you might have to wait longer, but it IS possible to buy at MSRP.  I will state that you are correct that SOME dealers will expect a big markup, but by no means is it all dealers.

Every dealer in Alberta was (and is) charging  ADM on regular C8's.  You cannot currently buy one at MSRP in Alberta.  I can't comment on other provinces.

I appreciate your GM nut hugging but dealers are a funny bunch.  The ZO6 will be worse given its limited manufacture.

Just so you know I got word that a former member from this forum has a deposit on a Z06 at MSRP, and he has a friend who has a deposit on a Blackwing again at MSRP.

And just to get it straight, I'm not "nut hugging" GM dealers, I'd say the same thing about a Porsche GT4, Mustang GT500, etc.  I'm not really a GM fan for the most part, but I do admit that the C8 Vette and the Blackwings are mighty impressive.

Lucky folks.  Do they know the dealer?  What relationship do they have with the dealership?

Well one of them had a Camaro 1LE at one point, so he is likely buying from the same dealer, as far as I know, other than buying a couple of cars from them he doesn't have any other association.  His friend with the Blackwing I'm not sure, don't even know if it's the same dealer.  Also, it's not luck, it's doing your homework and buying from a dealer that doesn't do shady stuff like Mark up their crap excessively.  I haven't heard anyone in our city who has paid more than MSRP plus maybe a small admin fee or some extra floor mats or other things.

I am not convinced it is as easy as you presume.  Here are some C8’s for sale:

https://www.donwheaton.com/VehicleSearchResults?year=2021&make=Chevrolet&model=Corvette

$159K

I think there’s a big difference between a factory order vs buying a rare bird off the lot.   There are plenty of dealers who will take an MSRP order for someone willing to wait for a factory order allocation.

I’m the friend who ordered a CT5V Blackwing here in Waterloo.  No idea when I’ll actually get it.  But deal is straight MSRP + $199 dealer admin fee.   No relation to the dealer, never bought a GM product before.

[and oh yes...I’m excited!  ]

[JohnnyMac]

Where do you live?

Fredericton NB

[JohnnyMac]

The mark up on these will be $20 to $30K easy.

Oh here we go again.  Reality check, there is a list of dealers in the states that sell at MSRP and here in Canada it's the same.  Shop around, sure you might have to wait longer, but it IS possible to buy at MSRP.  I will state that you are correct that SOME dealers will expect a big markup, but by no means is it all dealers.

Every dealer in Alberta was (and is) charging  ADM on regular C8's.  You cannot currently buy one at MSRP in Alberta.  I can't comment on other provinces.

I appreciate your GM nut hugging but dealers are a funny bunch.  The ZO6 will be worse given its limited manufacture.

Just so you know I got word that a former member from this forum has a deposit on a Z06 at MSRP, and he has a friend who has a deposit on a Blackwing again at MSRP.

And just to get it straight, I'm not "nut hugging" GM dealers, I'd say the same thing about a Porsche GT4, Mustang GT500, etc.  I'm not really a GM fan for the most part, but I do admit that the C8 Vette and the Blackwings are mighty impressive.

Lucky folks.  Do they know the dealer?  What relationship do they have with the dealership?

Well one of them had a Camaro 1LE at one point, so he is likely buying from the same dealer, as far as I know, other than buying a couple of cars from them he doesn't have any other association.  His friend with the Blackwing I'm not sure, don't even know if it's the same dealer.  Also, it's not luck, it's doing your homework and buying from a dealer that doesn't do shady stuff like Mark up their crap excessively.  I haven't heard anyone in our city who has paid more than MSRP plus maybe a small admin fee or some extra floor mats or other things.

Guessing you're talking about Vman?

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Can't confirm or deny that's who I'm talking about. 

[JohnnyMac]

The mark up on these will be $20 to $30K easy.

Oh here we go again.  Reality check, there is a list of dealers in the states that sell at MSRP and here in Canada it's the same.  Shop around, sure you might have to wait longer, but it IS possible to buy at MSRP.  I will state that you are correct that SOME dealers will expect a big markup, but by no means is it all dealers.

Every dealer in Alberta was (and is) charging  ADM on regular C8's.  You cannot currently buy one at MSRP in Alberta.  I can't comment on other provinces.

I appreciate your GM nut hugging but dealers are a funny bunch.  The ZO6 will be worse given its limited manufacture.

Just so you know I got word that a former member from this forum has a deposit on a Z06 at MSRP, and he has a friend who has a deposit on a Blackwing again at MSRP.

And just to get it straight, I'm not "nut hugging" GM dealers, I'd say the same thing about a Porsche GT4, Mustang GT500, etc.  I'm not really a GM fan for the most part, but I do admit that the C8 Vette and the Blackwings are mighty impressive.

Lucky folks.  Do they know the dealer?  What relationship do they have with the dealership?

Well one of them had a Camaro 1LE at one point, so he is likely buying from the same dealer, as far as I know, other than buying a couple of cars from them he doesn't have any other association.  His friend with the Blackwing I'm not sure, don't even know if it's the same dealer.  Also, it's not luck, it's doing your homework and buying from a dealer that doesn't do shady stuff like Mark up their crap excessively.  I haven't heard anyone in our city who has paid more than MSRP plus maybe a small admin fee or some extra floor mats or other things.

I am not convinced it is as easy as you presume.  Here are some C8’s for sale:

https://www.donwheaton.com/VehicleSearchResults?year=2021&make=Chevrolet&model=Corvette

$159K

I think there’s a big difference between a factory order vs buying a rare bird off the lot.   There are plenty of dealers who will take an MSRP order for someone willing to wait for a factory order allocation.

I’m the friend who ordered a CT5V Blackwing here in Waterloo.  No idea when I’ll actually get it.  But deal is straight MSRP + $199 dealer admin fee.   No relation to the dealer, never bought a GM product before.

[and oh yes...I’m excited!  ]

Exactly what is said above, huge difference between buying something off the lot and doing a factory order, especially when you are talking about "special" vehicles. 

Congrats on the Blackwing order, it'll definitely be worth the wait.  Please do a show and shine when you do finally get it as I know we'd all love to have a look and some impressions on what you think of it.

I think Cadure just gets caught up in the listings and all the stories of people paying crazy markups.  As we all know, bad news is shared 10 times more than good news, so all those people who get to buy at MSRP aren't talked about.  I'm not denying that some dealers mark up these vehicles and that some buyers pay these markups, that's a fact, but it seems like he's unwilling to admit that it is certainly possible to buy these vehicles at MSRP when you do a factory order from a dealer that isn't crazy.  Just requires some shopping around and waiting.

[Gurgie]

I think there’s a big difference between a factory order vs buying a rare bird off the lot.   There are plenty of dealers who will take an MSRP order for someone willing to wait for a factory order allocation.

I’m the friend who ordered a CT5V Blackwing here in Waterloo.  No idea when I’ll actually get it.  But deal is straight MSRP + $199 dealer admin fee.   No relation to the dealer, never bought a GM product before.

[and oh yes...I’m excited!  ]

Nice!! Congrats!! Which means Vman is in on the Z06... will be sending him a text, the ! 

[Jaeger]

What....A....Beast!

It is expected to do the quarter mile in the mid 10's.  It will be at the top of all performance metrics for production cars.


And yet I would rather have a Cayman GT4.

I think if I had a fun manual car beside the Vette I'd likely choose the Z06 over a Cayman GT4 or Lotus Emira.  But if I only had one fun car, it pretty much has to offer a manual, so that would exclude all C8 Vettes.

But the Z06 is supposed to be your fun car. 2 fun cars? High roller...

Well I'd say the majority of people who buy a car like the Z06 have multiple cars.  I would think something like a manual GTI/R, WRX/STI, Civic Si/Type R, would all make a good second vehicle for daily driver and winter months.

True, but I'd still rather a GT4 

Totally get it, nothing wrong with a Porsche GT4.

Yea, my Boxster has further opened my eyes to this.

With the new speeding laws these days, I think my 640hp Supra would have me in lockup!

Whereas the 306hp in my Boxster feels more "useable" on the streets.

I'm not saying I wouldn't totally dig a 500hp car these days (I would)..and I'm still endeavor to get one again..but my license would be on thin ice! LOL [emoji38]

^This!

I 100% agree. Maybe I'm getting old, but the announcement of any street car with over 500bhp doesn't do anything for me these days. Same with super fast bikes too.

With the current laws, and police cars equipped with forward facing radar, you're screwed if you come around a corner or over the crest of a hill going well over the limit.  This is part of the reason I got rid of the FZ-09 and the C63, both tempted me well to go well over the posted limit on a daily basis.

I'm more interested in stuff 10-20 years old now, that were fast at the time, or light vehicles that just don't need huge amounts of power like an Elise.

Me too.  You can't legally use more than a small fraction of that power, and the consequences if you get caught are most unpleasant.  Other than bragging rights, I don't really get the point.  But hey, I love the sight and sound of these machines - so if other people buy them, I'm happy.    Pretty soon everyone will be whirring along silently in fancy electric golf carts, so I'll vicariously enjoy these while I can.

[Triple Bob]

The mark up on these will be $20 to $30K easy.

Oh here we go again.  Reality check, there is a list of dealers in the states that sell at MSRP and here in Canada it's the same.  Shop around, sure you might have to wait longer, but it IS possible to buy at MSRP.  I will state that you are correct that SOME dealers will expect a big markup, but by no means is it all dealers.

Every dealer in Alberta was (and is) charging  ADM on regular C8's.  You cannot currently buy one at MSRP in Alberta.  I can't comment on other provinces.

I appreciate your GM nut hugging but dealers are a funny bunch.  The ZO6 will be worse given its limited manufacture.

Just so you know I got word that a former member from this forum has a deposit on a Z06 at MSRP, and he has a friend who has a deposit on a Blackwing again at MSRP.

And just to get it straight, I'm not "nut hugging" GM dealers, I'd say the same thing about a Porsche GT4, Mustang GT500, etc.  I'm not really a GM fan for the most part, but I do admit that the C8 Vette and the Blackwings are mighty impressive.

Lucky folks.  Do they know the dealer?  What relationship do they have with the dealership?

Well one of them had a Camaro 1LE at one point, so he is likely buying from the same dealer, as far as I know, other than buying a couple of cars from them he doesn't have any other association.  His friend with the Blackwing I'm not sure, don't even know if it's the same dealer.  Also, it's not luck, it's doing your homework and buying from a dealer that doesn't do shady stuff like Mark up their crap excessively.  I haven't heard anyone in our city who has paid more than MSRP plus maybe a small admin fee or some extra floor mats or other things.

I am not convinced it is as easy as you presume.  Here are some C8’s for sale:

https://www.donwheaton.com/VehicleSearchResults?year=2021&make=Chevrolet&model=Corvette

$159K

I think there’s a big difference between a factory order vs buying a rare bird off the lot.   There are plenty of dealers who will take an MSRP order for someone willing to wait for a factory order allocation.

I’m the friend who ordered a CT5V Blackwing here in Waterloo.  No idea when I’ll actually get it.  But deal is straight MSRP + $199 dealer admin fee.   No relation to the dealer, never bought a GM product before.

[and oh yes...I’m excited!  ]

Congrats!

[Shorlaw]

The mark up on these will be $20 to $30K easy.

Oh here we go again.  Reality check, there is a list of dealers in the states that sell at MSRP and here in Canada it's the same.  Shop around, sure you might have to wait longer, but it IS possible to buy at MSRP.  I will state that you are correct that SOME dealers will expect a big markup, but by no means is it all dealers.

Every dealer in Alberta was (and is) charging  ADM on regular C8's.  You cannot currently buy one at MSRP in Alberta.  I can't comment on other provinces.

I appreciate your GM nut hugging but dealers are a funny bunch.  The ZO6 will be worse given its limited manufacture.

Just so you know I got word that a former member from this forum has a deposit on a Z06 at MSRP, and he has a friend who has a deposit on a Blackwing again at MSRP.

And just to get it straight, I'm not "nut hugging" GM dealers, I'd say the same thing about a Porsche GT4, Mustang GT500, etc.  I'm not really a GM fan for the most part, but I do admit that the C8 Vette and the Blackwings are mighty impressive.

Lucky folks.  Do they know the dealer?  What relationship do they have with the dealership?

Well one of them had a Camaro 1LE at one point, so he is likely buying from the same dealer, as far as I know, other than buying a couple of cars from them he doesn't have any other association.  His friend with the Blackwing I'm not sure, don't even know if it's the same dealer.  Also, it's not luck, it's doing your homework and buying from a dealer that doesn't do shady stuff like Mark up their crap excessively.  I haven't heard anyone in our city who has paid more than MSRP plus maybe a small admin fee or some extra floor mats or other things.

I am not convinced it is as easy as you presume.  Here are some C8’s for sale:

https://www.donwheaton.com/VehicleSearchResults?year=2021&make=Chevrolet&model=Corvette

$159K

I don't understand how they can even advertise that, it's blatantly not true, those aren't the MSRP's?  I realize those are the kind of prices they're selling for, but it has more to do with the crazy car price world right now.  If manufacturers were able to fill demand for all vehicles, the C8 fever prices would have leveled off by now (or close to it) as they have with every new generation.  Used C7's are selling higher than their original MSRP.  The other thing is that all of the competition to the C8/Z06 also have ADM's, long waits etc, so using MSRP's is the only way you can have a comparative discussion.

[evil_twin]

Thanks all.   I'll post more details in the Blackwing thread at some point, but this will be a loooong wait.   I'm #2 in line at the dealer.   First order was placed in May and no sign of a build date yet.    Realistically I'll be on tap for 2023 model at the earliest.    But I'm fine with that, not in a rush really.   Just wanted to get myself in line for one of these before they're gone.

I 100% agree. Maybe I'm getting old, but the announcement of any street car with over 500bhp doesn't do anything for me these days. Same with super fast bikes too.

With the current laws, and police cars equipped with forward facing radar, you're screwed if you come around a corner or over the crest of a hill going well over the limit.  This is part of the reason I got rid of the FZ-09 and the C63, both tempted me well to go well over the posted limit on a daily basis.

I'm more interested in stuff 10-20 years old now, that were fast at the time, or light vehicles that just don't need huge amounts of power like an Elise.

Me too.  You can't legally use more than a small fraction of that power, and the consequences if you get caught are most unpleasant.  Other than bragging rights, I don't really get the point.  But hey, I love the sight and sound of these machines - so if other people buy them, I'm happy.    Pretty soon everyone will be whirring along silently in fancy electric golf carts, so I'll vicariously enjoy these while I can.

I do agree with this thinking.   If they offered a variant of the Blackwing with the non-supercharged 6.2 liter [~470 hp or something?]  that would certainly be the one I'd have chosen.   But they don't! So..... 

[Triple Bob]

Thanks all.   I'll post more details in the Blackwing thread at some point, but this will be a loooong wait.   I'm #2 in line at the dealer.   First order was placed in May and no sign of a build date yet.    Realistically I'll be on tap for 2023 model at the earliest.    But I'm fine with that, not in a rush really.   Just wanted to get myself in line for one of these before they're gone.

I 100% agree. Maybe I'm getting old, but the announcement of any street car with over 500bhp doesn't do anything for me these days. Same with super fast bikes too.

With the current laws, and police cars equipped with forward facing radar, you're screwed if you come around a corner or over the crest of a hill going well over the limit.  This is part of the reason I got rid of the FZ-09 and the C63, both tempted me well to go well over the posted limit on a daily basis.

I'm more interested in stuff 10-20 years old now, that were fast at the time, or light vehicles that just don't need huge amounts of power like an Elise.

Me too.  You can't legally use more than a small fraction of that power, and the consequences if you get caught are most unpleasant.  Other than bragging rights, I don't really get the point.  But hey, I love the sight and sound of these machines - so if other people buy them, I'm happy.    Pretty soon everyone will be whirring along silently in fancy electric golf carts, so I'll vicariously enjoy these while I can.

I do agree with this thinking.   If they offered a variant of the Blackwing with the non-supercharged 6.2 liter [~470 hp or something?]  that would certainly be the one I'd have chosen.   But they don't! So..... 

LOL, I honestly don't know how you'll rein it in. I hit 185 on the commute once.  Never again!

[ChaosphereIX]

Thanks all.   I'll post more details in the Blackwing thread at some point, but this will be a loooong wait.   I'm #2 in line at the dealer.   First order was placed in May and no sign of a build date yet.    Realistically I'll be on tap for 2023 model at the earliest.    But I'm fine with that, not in a rush really.   Just wanted to get myself in line for one of these before they're gone.

I 100% agree. Maybe I'm getting old, but the announcement of any street car with over 500bhp doesn't do anything for me these days. Same with super fast bikes too.

With the current laws, and police cars equipped with forward facing radar, you're screwed if you come around a corner or over the crest of a hill going well over the limit.  This is part of the reason I got rid of the FZ-09 and the C63, both tempted me well to go well over the posted limit on a daily basis.

I'm more interested in stuff 10-20 years old now, that were fast at the time, or light vehicles that just don't need huge amounts of power like an Elise.

Me too.  You can't legally use more than a small fraction of that power, and the consequences if you get caught are most unpleasant.  Other than bragging rights, I don't really get the point.  But hey, I love the sight and sound of these machines - so if other people buy them, I'm happy.    Pretty soon everyone will be whirring along silently in fancy electric golf carts, so I'll vicariously enjoy these while I can.

I do agree with this thinking.   If they offered a variant of the Blackwing with the non-supercharged 6.2 liter [~470 hp or something?]  that would certainly be the one I'd have chosen.   But they don't! So..... 

As a fellow big car, big power supercharged V8 owner...I wholeheartedly support your decision. Congrats!

[JohnnyMac]

Thanks all.   I'll post more details in the Blackwing thread at some point, but this will be a loooong wait.   I'm #2 in line at the dealer.   First order was placed in May and no sign of a build date yet.    Realistically I'll be on tap for 2023 model at the earliest.    But I'm fine with that, not in a rush really.   Just wanted to get myself in line for one of these before they're gone.

I 100% agree. Maybe I'm getting old, but the announcement of any street car with over 500bhp doesn't do anything for me these days. Same with super fast bikes too.

With the current laws, and police cars equipped with forward facing radar, you're screwed if you come around a corner or over the crest of a hill going well over the limit.  This is part of the reason I got rid of the FZ-09 and the C63, both tempted me well to go well over the posted limit on a daily basis.

I'm more interested in stuff 10-20 years old now, that were fast at the time, or light vehicles that just don't need huge amounts of power like an Elise.

Me too.  You can't legally use more than a small fraction of that power, and the consequences if you get caught are most unpleasant.  Other than bragging rights, I don't really get the point.  But hey, I love the sight and sound of these machines - so if other people buy them, I'm happy.    Pretty soon everyone will be whirring along silently in fancy electric golf carts, so I'll vicariously enjoy these while I can.

I do agree with this thinking.   If they offered a variant of the Blackwing with the non-supercharged 6.2 liter [~470 hp or something?]  that would certainly be the one I'd have chosen.   But they don't! So..... 

As a fellow big car, big power supercharged V8 owner...I wholeheartedly support your decision. Congrats!

I'm not sure the CT5 qualifies as a "big car", at least not in the same way as your Jag.  But both having over 600hp from a supercharged V8 is epic.  Evil will get bonus points if he opts for the manual.

[UnknownJinX]

Regarding the 500 BHP thing... Yeah it may be overkill on the street, but it's a different story on the track, and that's what the Z06 was build for. If you don't hit the track, well that's what Stingray is for. Probably more comfortable for DD, too.

That was the top of third gear in my Bullitt.

I'd hit that once a week.  Just to clear out the carbon....

But don't you already have port injection so carbon buildup isn't an issue?

And redlining just that once probably won't get the parts hot enough to shake off the carbon. Go do a track day. That's probably where you will have enough time for the carbon to be burnt off.

I have the feeling that you know this and just want an excuse to rev the heart out of your Bullitt, LOL.

[Triple Bob]

Regarding the 500 BHP thing... Yeah it may be overkill on the street, but it's a different story on the track, and that's what the Z06 was build for. If you don't hit the track, well that's what Stingray is for. Probably more comfortable for DD, too.

That was the top of third gear in my Bullitt.

I'd hit that once a week.  Just to clear out the carbon....

But don't you already have port injection so carbon buildup isn't an issue?

And redlining just that once probably won't get the parts hot enough to shake off the carbon. Go do a track day. That's probably where you will have enough time for the carbon to be burnt off.

I have the feeling that you know this and just want an excuse to rev the heart out of your Bullitt, LOL.

Thing is, I'd much rather have a lighter car on the track, with cheaper consumables such as brake discs. Like an Elise/Exige, or Ariel Atom, or Caterham. Any of those would be much more engaging to drive than a heavier car.  The Caterham was by far the best track experience I've had, and like bikes, less power let's you learn braking and cornering more, rather than just relying on power to slingshot you out onto the straights.

Not saying a 1LE/Z06 wouldn't be fun, it just wouldn't be my track weapon of choice.