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Re: What Next?
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2021, 10:35:20 am »
Quote from: Jaeger on September 23, 2021, 09:27:44 am
YOLO.  Get the Speed Twin already.  It's everything you want, and you know it.  ;D

You're right...  but $$$ ...

That would put off the trail bikes by several more years. 

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Re: What Next?
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2021, 10:41:20 am »
Quote from: DriverJeff on September 22, 2021, 10:09:41 pm
Quote from: rrocket on September 22, 2021, 07:57:40 pm
Quote from: ktm525 on September 22, 2021, 07:51:48 pm
I would argue that having a bike that is 70 lbs lighter would benefit the beginner as much as a seasoned rider.

I agree with that.


But not for what KTMs cost...for a newb, anyways.  He could buy a clapped out KDX/CR/YZ/whatever and realize most of the same benefits.

You never know..he might hate off-roading.

I do like offroading.  I'm crap at it still, though. 

A trio of proper trail bikes will be in the cards at some point (one for me, one for my g/f and one for my son), but not yet. 

In the meantime, I loved the look of the Bonnie, but I didn't love how it handled, nor the fact that I had to wring its neck only to still never keep up with my g/f on the ZX6R, pulling away from every stop.  Hahaha

This is my point. It is not you, it is likely the bike that is making you crappy  lol. It's like trying to learn to ski on crappy detuned rental boards. Maybe a low end bike is ok a few times but once you learn to clutch etc but after that everyone appreciates a well suspended and lightweight machine. The wide eyed realization after a new rider tries a well sorted bike is classic. "Now I get it...." There is a reason why most "good" bikes are essentially order in advance..
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Re: What Next?
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2021, 01:06:24 pm »
Quote from: DriverJeff on September 23, 2021, 10:35:20 am
Quote from: Jaeger on September 23, 2021, 09:27:44 am
YOLO.  Get the Speed Twin already.  It's everything you want, and you know it.  ;D

You're right...  but $$$ ...

That would put off the trail bikes by several more years.

I hear you. We all want to have all the toys we want to have. But there are limitations.
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Re: What Next?
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2021, 02:31:31 pm »
Are we still making & taking suggestions?

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Re: What Next?
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2021, 12:44:46 pm »
Quote from: ktm525 on September 23, 2021, 10:41:20 am
Quote from: DriverJeff on September 22, 2021, 10:09:41 pm
Quote from: rrocket on September 22, 2021, 07:57:40 pm
Quote from: ktm525 on September 22, 2021, 07:51:48 pm
I would argue that having a bike that is 70 lbs lighter would benefit the beginner as much as a seasoned rider.

I agree with that.


But not for what KTMs cost...for a newb, anyways.  He could buy a clapped out KDX/CR/YZ/whatever and realize most of the same benefits.

You never know..he might hate off-roading.

I do like offroading.  I'm crap at it still, though. 

A trio of proper trail bikes will be in the cards at some point (one for me, one for my g/f and one for my son), but not yet. 

In the meantime, I loved the look of the Bonnie, but I didn't love how it handled, nor the fact that I had to wring its neck only to still never keep up with my g/f on the ZX6R, pulling away from every stop.  Hahaha

This is my point. It is not you, it is likely the bike that is making you crappy  lol. It's like trying to learn to ski on crappy detuned rental boards. Maybe a low end bike is ok a few times but once you learn to clutch etc but after that everyone appreciates a well suspended and lightweight machine. The wide eyed realization after a new rider tries a well sorted bike is classic. "Now I get it...." There is a reason why most "good" bikes are essentially order in advance..

Hmm... you make a very good point there.  If my rotten brother would loan me his Beta, maybe I'd get a better sense of it.  ;) 
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Re: What Next?
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2021, 01:06:31 pm »
It does help if you can get seat time on a lot of options which is tough to do on bikes. With the Euros the design can change fast. For instance with the 510CC KTM thumpers in 2016 they were about 265 lbs and now they are closer to 230 lbs and they handle much quicker. The bike has been shrunk and put on a diet but now the bike also vibrates more. Bigger riders need to put on bar risers, lower pegs and taller seats to grow the rider triangle. Depending on your intended use the 2016 may still be a better option as the engine is butter smooth compared to the new paint mixer.

The upside to bikes like the DRZ is that they only change every 20 years or so . You know what you are getting.



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Re: What Next?
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2021, 01:08:31 pm »
Bar risers?!? We're talking about Jeff here!  ;D :P
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Re: What Next?
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2021, 01:37:08 pm »
Quote from: Triple Bob on September 30, 2021, 01:08:31 pm
Bar risers?!? We're talking about Jeff here!  ;D :P

Bar sinkers?
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Re: What Next?
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2021, 01:46:02 pm »
Quote from: ktm525 on September 30, 2021, 01:37:08 pm
Quote from: Triple Bob on September 30, 2021, 01:08:31 pm
Bar risers?!? We're talking about Jeff here!  ;D :P

Bar sinkers?

LOL, sorry Jeff.  :rofl2:
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Re: What Next?
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2021, 11:08:14 am »
Quote from: Triple Bob on September 30, 2021, 01:46:02 pm
Quote from: ktm525 on September 30, 2021, 01:37:08 pm
Quote from: Triple Bob on September 30, 2021, 01:08:31 pm
Bar risers?!? We're talking about Jeff here!  ;D :P

Bar sinkers?

LOL, sorry Jeff.  :rofl2:

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