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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #280 on: January 16, 2022, 11:33:44 am »
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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #281 on: January 16, 2022, 02:37:48 pm »
Quality control problems
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2022-toyota-tundra-owner-isnt-amused-by-the-build-quality-of-his-new-truck-179184.html
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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #282 on: January 16, 2022, 02:56:19 pm »
Quality control problems
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2022-toyota-tundra-owner-isnt-amused-by-the-build-quality-of-his-new-truck-179184.html
Must be a lie….overLord Toyota with quality problems?! No way….


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This is how you address a problem unlike GM who told me to FO and take my still under warranty Pontiac G8 GT with me... It  had a serious piston slap issue and essentially they told me  "yeah some are like that  but we won't fix it..) I will NEVER buy a new GM because of that.








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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #283 on: January 19, 2022, 12:31:36 pm »
Looks like a few teething problems with some Tundra's.
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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #284 on: January 19, 2022, 12:35:37 pm »
Toyota should have kept in simple. Whiz bang tech = whiz bang problems. Keep the 5.7L and add a 4.0L I6 and be done with it. turbo schmerbo. :rofl2:


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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #285 on: January 19, 2022, 12:36:29 pm »
Toyota should have kept in simple. Whiz bang tech = whiz bang problems. Keep the 5.7L and add a 4.0L I6 and be done with it. turbo schmerbo. :rofl2:

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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #286 on: January 19, 2022, 12:41:39 pm »
Toyota should have kept in simple. Whiz bang tech = whiz bang problems. Keep the 5.7L and add a 4.0L I6 and be done with it. turbo schmerbo. :rofl2:

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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #287 on: January 19, 2022, 12:52:35 pm »
I wonder if they could've done a naturally aspirated V6 Hybrid to have the power of a V8.

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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #288 on: January 19, 2022, 01:04:37 pm »
Eff me.  Pull the engine or remove the cab to change the wastegate essentially?  I thought this was a proven powerplant used in Lexus vehicles?  I guess maybe it is but obviously the truck would have specific parts.

The simplicity of my old '07 is a lovely thing.  I understand technology must march on though.
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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #289 on: January 19, 2022, 01:15:02 pm »
Toyota should have kept in simple. Whiz bang tech = whiz bang problems. Keep the 5.7L and add a 4.0L I6 and be done with it. turbo schmerbo. :rofl2:

I remember when I was truck shopping, they had a beautiful Tundra in the army green that really caught my eye. To me, it was the last of the proper trucks, solid build quality, V8 simplicity, and long term durability. None of these turbo, DI, hybrid crap is going to be around in 15-20 years with 500k kms on them.
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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #290 on: January 19, 2022, 01:21:08 pm »
I wonder if they developed a V8 that runs the Atkinson cycle and have the hybrid system support it, what the fuel economy and power figures would be.  I know that the Atkinson cycle doesn't make a lot of power, but even if it's around 300ish hp, they could add 150hp of FWD power and still be competitive.  That would allow them to avoid the turbo complications, keep the V8 bullet proof, and use their more familiar hybrid tech to bring it up to being competitive with others.

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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #291 on: January 19, 2022, 01:58:14 pm »
Toyota should have kept in simple. Whiz bang tech = whiz bang problems. Keep the 5.7L and add a 4.0L I6 and be done with it. turbo schmerbo. :rofl2:

I remember when I was truck shopping, they had a beautiful Tundra in the army green that really caught my eye. To me, it was the last of the proper trucks, solid build quality, V8 simplicity, and long term durability. None of these turbo, DI, hybrid crap is going to be around in 15-20 years with 500k kms on them.

No point having a V8 in 20 years when gas is $5/L.


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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #292 on: January 19, 2022, 02:01:02 pm »
Toyota should have kept in simple. Whiz bang tech = whiz bang problems. Keep the 5.7L and add a 4.0L I6 and be done with it. turbo schmerbo. :rofl2:

I remember when I was truck shopping, they had a beautiful Tundra in the army green that really caught my eye. To me, it was the last of the proper trucks, solid build quality, V8 simplicity, and long term durability. None of these turbo, DI, hybrid crap is going to be around in 15-20 years with 500k kms on them.

No point having a V8 in 20 years when gas is $5/L.

That will be an even bigger point. When everyone is driving some sad sack, electric Hyundai, you get to enjoy life.

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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #293 on: January 19, 2022, 02:06:21 pm »
Toyota should have kept in simple. Whiz bang tech = whiz bang problems. Keep the 5.7L and add a 4.0L I6 and be done with it. turbo schmerbo. :rofl2:

I remember when I was truck shopping, they had a beautiful Tundra in the army green that really caught my eye. To me, it was the last of the proper trucks, solid build quality, V8 simplicity, and long term durability. None of these turbo, DI, hybrid crap is going to be around in 15-20 years with 500k kms on them.

No point having a V8 in 20 years when gas is $5/L.

This is so simple to address. . Simply hold some crude oil futures or substantial holdings in companies who have crude oil reserves.. Premium heading to $2/L short term? Who cares the petroleum side of my portfolio is up 500%... ;D

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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #294 on: January 19, 2022, 07:21:21 pm »
Toyota should have kept in simple. Whiz bang tech = whiz bang problems. Keep the 5.7L and add a 4.0L I6 and be done with it. turbo schmerbo. :rofl2:

I remember when I was truck shopping, they had a beautiful Tundra in the army green that really caught my eye. To me, it was the last of the proper trucks, solid build quality, V8 simplicity, and long term durability. None of these turbo, DI, hybrid crap is going to be around in 15-20 years with 500k kms on them.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/17/toyota-shifting-tacoma-production-to-mexico-as-it-invests-13b-us.html

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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #295 on: February 03, 2022, 06:51:44 pm »
^^ It will  be interesting  to see how this translates into fuel economy numbers. Especially compared to the F150 hybrid.
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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #296 on: February 03, 2022, 08:10:27 pm »
nice explanation on the tundra hybrid system Vs the other hybrids

https://www.thedrive.com/news/44110/what-makes-the-2022-toyota-tundras-hybrid-system-different-from-a-prius
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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #297 on: February 03, 2022, 08:15:44 pm »
^^ It will  be interesting  to see how this translates into fuel economy numbers. Especially compared to the F150 hybrid.



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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #298 on: February 03, 2022, 08:52:38 pm »
^^ It will  be interesting  to see how this translates into fuel economy numbers. Especially compared to the F150 hybrid.

Toyota has previously said that the new hybrid in the Tundra was more about performance and less about fuel economy.  I think the term they used to describe their goal was "technical muscle".
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Re: 2022 Toyota Tundra
« Reply #299 on: February 04, 2022, 07:25:11 am »
^^ It will  be interesting  to see how this translates into fuel economy numbers. Especially compared to the F150 hybrid.

Toyota has previously said that the new hybrid in the Tundra was more about performance and less about fuel economy.  I think the term they used to describe their goal was "technical muscle".
I don't think that's what they should have done, if that's the case.  Toyota Hybrid's are known and sold based on fuel economy, not to add extra muscle.  The biggest complaint about the old Tundra wasn't that it was an old design, interior, etc, it was fuel economy (I'm talking about owner complaints, not reviewers or armchair critics).