Topic: 2022 Toyota Tundra

[PJungnitsch]

Why do they put auto 4x4 settings on the SUVs based on the pickup trucks and usually not the pickup trucks themselves?

I think Sierra Denali has an automatic 4x4 mode.

That's always been a peculiar thing

[Ex-airbalancer]

Why do they put auto 4x4 settings on the SUVs based on the pickup trucks and usually not the pickup trucks themselves?

I think Sierra Denali has an automatic 4x4 mode.

Most GM truck have an auto 4x4 mode

[ArticSteve]

My Frontier doesn't have a damped tailgate either.  Seems like a fluff feature to me.  I like a simple truck.

My son's 2020 f150 xlt as no damper.  It does have the integrated  "man"  step and telescoping handle.  When Ford first displayed it I laughed.  Not so much now.  However it is a really heavy tailgate and it needs a damper.  It's caught me off guard a few times and would crush the grandson's head if he was standing behind it.

[ArticSteve]

Why do they put auto 4x4 settings on the SUVs based on the pickup trucks and usually not the pickup trucks themselves?

I think Sierra Denali has an automatic 4x4 mode.

 

We should clear this up.  4x4 "auto" is not AWD and it is slow to react.  When in 4 auto one is still in rear wheel drive.  When the ECU detects rear wheel slip it starts to pump oil pressure inside the transfercase and it locks the drive shafts.  It's not instant.  If you're on a slippery highway select 4wd HI.

With Ford, Lariats and up get the auto 4wd.  GM seems to offer it in many lower trims.  4wd auto is primarily for wives that have no clue of what's happening.  Just stick it in 4wd auto and tell them never to touch that dial.  Some men as well. 

[Great_Big_Abyss]

^^^Thats as good of an explanation as I've ever read.

[EV-Light]

My Frontier doesn't have a damped tailgate either.  Seems like a fluff feature to me.  I like a simple truck.

My son's 2020 f150 xlt as no damper.  It does have the integrated  "man"  step and telescoping handle.  When Ford first displayed it I laughed.  Not so much now.  However it is a really heavy tailgate and it needs a damper.  It's caught me off guard a few times and would crush the grandson's head if he was standing behind it.

You can buy a damper and install, easiest DYI ever - I helped a friend with his XLT, took us 20min and $30


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[EV-Light]

Why do they put auto 4x4 settings on the SUVs based on the pickup trucks and usually not the pickup trucks themselves?

I think Sierra Denali has an automatic 4x4 mode.

 

We should clear this up.  4x4 "auto" is not AWD and it is slow to react.  When in 4 auto one is still in rear wheel drive.  When the ECU detects rear wheel slip it starts to pump oil pressure inside the transfercase and it locks the drive shafts.  It's not instant.  If you're on a slippery highway select 4wd HI.

With Ford, Lariats and up get the auto 4wd.  GM seems to offer it in many lower trims.  4wd auto is primarily for wives that have no clue of what's happening.  Just stick it in 4wd auto and tell them never to touch that dial.  Some men as well. 

4WD Auto is awesome!! I have no use for it in the summer but winter??!! It’s fantastic…I don’t need to keep flipping between 2/4hi since the truck does the job for me really well. It’s such a luxury/worry free experience knowing the truck will engage itself in 4WD when you hit a light, or it senses slippage!


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[Ex-airbalancer]

Why do they put auto 4x4 settings on the SUVs based on the pickup trucks and usually not the pickup trucks themselves?

I think Sierra Denali has an automatic 4x4 mode.

 

We should clear this up.  4x4 "auto" is not AWD and it is slow to react.  When in 4 auto one is still in rear wheel drive.  When the ECU detects rear wheel slip it starts to pump oil pressure inside the transfercase and it locks the drive shafts.  It's not instant.  If you're on a slippery highway select 4wd HI.

With Ford, Lariats and up get the auto 4wd.  GM seems to offer it in many lower trims.  4wd auto is primarily for wives that have no clue of what's happening.  Just stick it in 4wd auto and tell them never to touch that dial.  Some men as well. 

4WD Auto is awesome!! I have no use for it in the summer but winter??!! It’s fantastic…I don’t need to keep flipping between 2/4hi since the truck does the job for me really well. It’s such a luxury/worry free experience knowing the truck will engage itself in 4WD when you hit a light, or it senses slippage!


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In the summer auto 4 wd can help if you get caught driving in a down pour of rain

[ArticSteve]

4WD Auto is awesome!! I have no use for it in the summer but winter??!! It’s fantastic…I don’t need to keep flipping between 2/4hi since the truck does the job for me really well. It’s such a luxury/worry free experience knowing the truck will engage itself in 4WD when you hit a light, or it senses slippage!

It's mostly a gimmick.  First the abs needs to detect slippage so the vehicle is already slipping by the time pumps starting pumping pressure into the transfer case..  Usually the slippage is just momentary so by the time it's pumped up it's then receiving signals to release the pressure.  Mechanical limited slip is vastly superior in these sporadic situations.  If it's that slippery just put the unit in 4WD HI.

4wd auto is for ppl too clueless to operate the transfer case manually.  It certainly is not a substitute for AWD.

[EV-Light]

4WD Auto is awesome!! I have no use for it in the summer but winter??!! It’s fantastic…I don’t need to keep flipping between 2/4hi since the truck does the job for me really well. It’s such a luxury/worry free experience knowing the truck will engage itself in 4WD when you hit a light, or it senses slippage!

It's mostly a gimmick.  First the abs needs to detect slippage so the vehicle is already slipping by the time pumps starting pumping pressure into the transfer case..  Usually the slippage is just momentary so by the time it's pumped up it's then receiving signals to release the pressure.  Mechanical limited slip is vastly superior in these sporadic situations.  If it's that slippery just put the unit in 4WD HI.

4wd auto is for ppl too clueless to operate the transfer case manually.  It certainly is not a substitute for AWD.

Nope…you are assuming 4WD auto has not been modernized.

The current system system uses many other inputs, including if your wipers are on or off but really the best part is having the 4WD come on automatic every time the truck stops, so off a slippery surface - very common at lights - you take off in 4WD instead of slipping in 2WD, the going for the 4WD switch and waiting a few seconds for it to kick in, super annoying.

But under rain as well, the 4WD system will turn the front end during driving in many conditions - e.g. it’s raining, wipers are on at position 1, and you attempt to pass somebody, boom 4WD is activated…

It works marvellously, doesn’t bind and doesn’t really affect gas mileage.


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[ArticSteve]

Firstly the "front end" doesn't get "turned on" instantly.  It's not electric.  Secondly you don't own a F150 so STFU if it's not too much bother. 

[Triple Bob]

Ah, you poor kids. Just be happy you don't have to pry open the tailgate with a screwdriver, that used to be a standard Ford feature

Lol, i saw a F-250 parked on the side of the hwy this morning and the owner guy was hammering away at his tailgate with a large boulder.  Not sure what the problem was there but it gave made me laugh. 

My Frontier doesn't have a damped tailgate either.  Seems like a fluff feature to me.  I like a simple truck.

Maybe not such a big deal on a small truck, but I'll say, once you've had a damped tailgate, it's hard to go back.

Same. I remember the first truck I drove didn't have one and the tailgate came crashing down when I opened it, really surprised me. And I remember thinking, holy sh!t, that would kill a child!

I find it hilarious that simple, helpful, common sense stuff like this (and steps to get into the truck bed), are considered 'unmanly', like denying simple solutions is more masculine. Give me a break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGI8IRXRqpo

Personally I consider a damped tailgate the same as electric windows or central locking, just table stakes.

[PJungnitsch]

Nope…you are assuming 4WD auto has not been modernized.

The current system system uses many other inputs, including if your wipers are on or off but really the best part is having the 4WD come on automatic every time the truck stops, so off a slippery surface - very common at lights - you take off in 4WD instead of slipping in 2WD, the going for the 4WD switch and waiting a few seconds for it to kick in, super annoying.

But under rain as well, the 4WD system will turn the front end during driving in many conditions - e.g. it’s raining, wipers are on at position 1, and you attempt to pass somebody, boom 4WD is activated…

It works marvellously, doesn’t bind and doesn’t really affect gas mileage.

That makes sense. It's hard to believe a 4WD system from 1986 is the best they can do for a modern truck.

See the Raptor is set up for 4WD auto, so it must work in demanding conditions

[KD]

Ah, you poor kids. Just be happy you don't have to pry open the tailgate with a screwdriver, that used to be a standard Ford feature

Lol, i saw a F-250 parked on the side of the hwy this morning and the owner guy was hammering away at his tailgate with a large boulder.  Not sure what the problem was there but it gave made me laugh. 

My Frontier doesn't have a damped tailgate either.  Seems like a fluff feature to me.  I like a simple truck.

Maybe not such a big deal on a small truck, but I'll say, once you've had a damped tailgate, it's hard to go back.

Same. I remember the first truck I drove didn't have one and the tailgate came crashing down when I opened it, really surprised me. And I remember thinking, holy sh!t, that would kill a child!

I find it hilarious that simple, helpful, common sense stuff like this (and steps to get into the truck bed), are considered 'unmanly', like denying simple solutions is more masculine. Give me a break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGI8IRXRqpo

Personally I consider a damped tailgate the same as electric windows or central locking, just table stakes.

Maybe I missed it but where was it mentioned that having this stuff is considered unmanly?  Certainly wasn't me and I would never make such a statement.    I simply said it's not a feature that really interest me.  I've driven countless pickup trucks over the 40+ years I've been driving and never once has a tailgate come crashing down on me.  Then again I've rarely used a truck with a damped tailgate so it's simply second nature for me to hold on to it while opening.  I'm sure it's one of those features that if you're used to having you wouldn't want to live without.  For me it's a solution to a problem I've never had.  Ftr, the tailgate on my truck is not that heavy. 

[dirtyjeffer]

Maybe I missed it but where was it mentioned that having this stuff is considered unmanly?  Certainly wasn't me and I would never make such a statement.

i don't think it was directed specifically at you...just in general.

same with people who said the Ridgeline wasn't a "real truck"...often from the crowd who have hitch balls on their trucks.

[Triple Bob]

Ah, you poor kids. Just be happy you don't have to pry open the tailgate with a screwdriver, that used to be a standard Ford feature

Lol, i saw a F-250 parked on the side of the hwy this morning and the owner guy was hammering away at his tailgate with a large boulder.  Not sure what the problem was there but it gave made me laugh. 

My Frontier doesn't have a damped tailgate either.  Seems like a fluff feature to me.  I like a simple truck.

Maybe not such a big deal on a small truck, but I'll say, once you've had a damped tailgate, it's hard to go back.

Same. I remember the first truck I drove didn't have one and the tailgate came crashing down when I opened it, really surprised me. And I remember thinking, holy sh!t, that would kill a child!

I find it hilarious that simple, helpful, common sense stuff like this (and steps to get into the truck bed), are considered 'unmanly', like denying simple solutions is more masculine. Give me a break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGI8IRXRqpo

Personally I consider a damped tailgate the same as electric windows or central locking, just table stakes.

Maybe I missed it but where was it mentioned that having this stuff is considered unmanly?  Certainly wasn't me and I would never make such a statement.    I simply said it's not a feature that really interest me.  I've driven countless pickup trucks over the 40+ years I've been driving and never once has a tailgate come crashing down on me.  Then again I've rarely used a truck with a damped tailgate so it's simply second nature for me to hold on to it while opening.  I'm sure it's one of those features that if you're used to having you wouldn't want to live without.  For me it's a solution to a problem I've never had.  Ftr, the tailgate on my truck is not that heavy.

Wasn't directed at you, although you did say it was a 'fluff' feature. 

I meant in the ads like in the link I posted.

[KD]

Ah, you poor kids. Just be happy you don't have to pry open the tailgate with a screwdriver, that used to be a standard Ford feature

Lol, i saw a F-250 parked on the side of the hwy this morning and the owner guy was hammering away at his tailgate with a large boulder.  Not sure what the problem was there but it gave made me laugh. 

My Frontier doesn't have a damped tailgate either.  Seems like a fluff feature to me.  I like a simple truck.

Maybe not such a big deal on a small truck, but I'll say, once you've had a damped tailgate, it's hard to go back.

Same. I remember the first truck I drove didn't have one and the tailgate came crashing down when I opened it, really surprised me. And I remember thinking, holy sh!t, that would kill a child!

I find it hilarious that simple, helpful, common sense stuff like this (and steps to get into the truck bed), are considered 'unmanly', like denying simple solutions is more masculine. Give me a break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGI8IRXRqpo

Personally I consider a damped tailgate the same as electric windows or central locking, just table stakes.

Maybe I missed it but where was it mentioned that having this stuff is considered unmanly?  Certainly wasn't me and I would never make such a statement.    I simply said it's not a feature that really interest me.  I've driven countless pickup trucks over the 40+ years I've been driving and never once has a tailgate come crashing down on me.  Then again I've rarely used a truck with a damped tailgate so it's simply second nature for me to hold on to it while opening.  I'm sure it's one of those features that if you're used to having you wouldn't want to live without.  For me it's a solution to a problem I've never had.  Ftr, the tailgate on my truck is not that heavy.

Wasn't directed at you, although you did say it was a 'fluff' feature. 

I meant in the ads like in the link I posted.

Hah, I knew fluff was the wrong term but I had writer's block at the time.     Superfluous is what i meant. 

[ArticSteve]

Just to clear this tailgate thing up.   Not all tailgates the same.  Taco tailgate is perfectly manageable without a damper.  However, a late model F150 with the integrated "man step" is heavy.  It needs a damper.  Ford, like all manufactures, attempts to push the customer into higher trims.  Dampered tailgate is standard on Lariat and above.  I'll install one soon only because of the grand kid.

[rrocket]

.  I'll install one soon only because of the grand kid.

Why, will be be loading stuff into the truck?

[ktm525]

Are tailgates injuring children all of a sudden