Topic: 2022 Hyundai IONIQ 5

[EV Dan]

779 cycles of 800 km looks better to me than 1000 cycles of 400 km.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/how-long-do-electric-car-batteries-last/

1500-2000 cycles is the norm according to this link.

[EV Dan]

https://insideevs.com/news/545577/hyundai-ioniq5-prices-canada/

Canadian pricing is out.

[Ex-airbalancer]

https://insideevs.com/news/545577/hyundai-ioniq5-prices-canada/

Canadian pricing is out.

Preferred long range RWD , please
the AWD is more than my first house, I cannot spend more than that on a car 

[Guy]

They will sell all they can get here, no doubt.

[tpl]

Seems OK compared to a Tesla.

[me_2]

They will sell all they can get here, no doubt.

I noticed the "Preferred AWD Long Range "(77.4 kWh, AWD): $54,999 CAD, so just a 1$ (IIRC) above below the maximum threshold to remain admissible to Federal incentive so, my guess there will be huge demand on that one in Québec with both provincial & federal incentives! 

Edit : Oops, Fixed

[Guy]

You mean $1 below the $55k max, but yes that will be the most popular model.

[EV Dan]

Prices seem good but isn't the base model a little light on both, kWh (Kona gets a 64 kWh battery) and power (only 167 HP, while again, Kona gets 201hp standard)?  Seems strange for a car that is bigger and heavier 

[me_2]

Prices seem good but isn't the base model a little light on both, kWh (Kona gets a 64 kWh battery) and power (only 167 HP, while again, Kona gets 201hp standard)?  Seems strange for a car that is bigger and heavier 

With the actual inflation, how much is the real value of 1$ CAD? 
Interior design is more roomy, may such criteria's will become more appealing to different people / type of customer....
Do not forget, the expression of the power (kW/Hp) is only the amount of torque (Nm/Lb-ft) multiply by its rotating speed (rpm) speaking in term of electric motor, bottom line gearing ratio selection made a lot of difference 

[EV Dan]

Prices seem good but isn't the base model a little light on both, kWh (Kona gets a 64 kWh battery) and power (only 167 HP, while again, Kona gets 201hp standard)?  Seems strange for a car that is bigger and heavier 

With the actual inflation, how much is the real value of 1$ CAD? 
Interior design is more roomy, may such criteria's will become more appealing to different people / type of customer....
Do not forget, the expression of the power (kW/Hp) is only the amount of torque (Nm/Lb-ft) multiply by its rotating speed (rpm) speaking in term of electric motor, bottom line gearing ratio selection made a lot of difference 

Are you using a translator this fine evening? 

[EV-Light]

Prices seem good but isn't the base model a little light on both, kWh (Kona gets a 64 kWh battery) and power (only 167 HP, while again, Kona gets 201hp standard)?  Seems strange for a car that is bigger and heavier 

I was thinking the same thing…the small battery version will be a slow one.


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[JohnnyMac]

They will sell all they can get here, no doubt.

I noticed the "Preferred AWD Long Range "(77.4 kWh, AWD): $54,999 CAD, so just a 1$ (IIRC) above below the maximum threshold to remain admissible to Federal incentive so, my guess there will be huge demand on that one in Québec with both provincial & federal incentives! 

Edit : Oops, Fixed

That's something I don't really understand, so if an EV starts under that $45K mark it qualifies for the Federal rebate, but you can add trim levels up to the $55K mark and still get the Federal rebate?

[JohnnyMac]

Prices seem good but isn't the base model a little light on both, kWh (Kona gets a 64 kWh battery) and power (only 167 HP, while again, Kona gets 201hp standard)?  Seems strange for a car that is bigger and heavier 

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/hyundais-2022-ioniq-5-is-priced-right-under-the-canadian-ev-rebate-threshold
This article states that the power for the RWD model is actually 225hp, so more than the Kona EV.  Not sure if that's 100% true or not but that's what it says.

[Guy]

They will sell all they can get here, no doubt.

I noticed the "Preferred AWD Long Range "(77.4 kWh, AWD): $54,999 CAD, so just a 1$ (IIRC) above below the maximum threshold to remain admissible to Federal incentive so, my guess there will be huge demand on that one in Québec with both provincial & federal incentives! 

Edit : Oops, Fixed

That's something I don't really understand, so if an EV starts under that $45K mark it qualifies for the Federal rebate, but you can add trim levels up to the $55K mark and still get the Federal rebate?

Yup, that's the way it works.

[JohnnyMac]

They will sell all they can get here, no doubt.

I noticed the "Preferred AWD Long Range "(77.4 kWh, AWD): $54,999 CAD, so just a 1$ (IIRC) above below the maximum threshold to remain admissible to Federal incentive so, my guess there will be huge demand on that one in Québec with both provincial & federal incentives! 

Edit : Oops, Fixed

That's something I don't really understand, so if an EV starts under that $45K mark it qualifies for the Federal rebate, but you can add trim levels up to the $55K mark and still get the Federal rebate?

Yup, that's the way it works.

Well that AWD premium IONIQ 5 is definitely a winner in my book.  I have to say I love the VW Golfish looks on the outside, the interior is very techie as well, and having a 0-60 time of 5 seconds is more than enough. 

[BWII]

These guys got 530 km out of a long range EV6 (same platform) which is only rated at 475 km - a little safety net?  Should be similar if not the same as the Hyundai right?  But in a better looking package.

I don't get why Tesla is held to such a high benchmark - I suppose their battery tech is 2nd to none - but isn't their build quality only exceeding that of a mid 80's Lada?  And then Elon...not sure I'd want to give him any of my money.  Ever.  Prick will have us all chipped and under his command soon enough (was trying to find the Simpson's link...nothing good came of it  ).  And people are afraid of Bill Gates...pfft.    And don't they treat their customers like total shi# too?

I think I prefer the EV6 on looks alone, even more than the Mach E.  Now if only MB would do something to incentive-ise them!    We've got hydro comin' out our a$$es!! 

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Hmmm...Genesis version, the GV60.

[EV Dan]

Prices seem good but isn't the base model a little light on both, kWh (Kona gets a 64 kWh battery) and power (only 167 HP, while again, Kona gets 201hp standard)?  Seems strange for a car that is bigger and heavier 

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/hyundais-2022-ioniq-5-is-priced-right-under-the-canadian-ev-rebate-threshold
This article states that the power for the RWD model is actually 225hp, so more than the Kona EV.  Not sure if that's 100% true or not but that's what it says.

The single-motor layout mated with the long-range battery pack has a horsepower output of 225 and a torque rating of 258 lb-ft.

So the way I read it, 225hp in case of the larger battery pack. But what about the base model?

[EV Dan]

Ok, found the answer I think:

The Ioniq 5 lineup will start with the rear-wheel drive single-motor Essential trim, offering a 354-km estimated range from a 58-kWh battery, 225 hp, and a price of $44,999. That allows the vehicle to qualify for all current Canadian EV incentives. The Preferred Long Range model has a 77.4-kWh battery and an estimated 480 km range for $51,999, while the Preferred Long Range model with AWD offers 415 km from the larger battery, 320 hp, and a price of $54,999.

https://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatures/20211104/2022-hyundai-ioniq-5-canadian-pricing-announced/

[EV Dan]

And by the way, these ranges are not EPA, as per hyundai canada website:

"The all-new IONIQ 5 is equipped with a wide range of exciting features including Advanced Head-Up Display and Recharge Mode. For the first time at Hyundai, IONIQ 5 features an Augmented Reality Head-Up Display (AR HUD), essentially turning the windshield into a display screen. As the first electric vehicle from Hyundai with available all-wheel drive, the dual motors are able to crank out up to 239kW or up to 320hp to help you navigate through the most difficult terrains.

When charging with a 350-kW DC fast charger, it can be charged to 80% in just 18 minutes and a 5-minute charge will give you a range of up to 100km. One full charge will give this vehicle a predicted range of 470-480km*.

* When equipped with rear-wheel drive (RWD) and 77.4-kWh battery, IONIQ 5’s maximum driving range on a single charge will be around 470~480 km, according to the Worldwide Harmonized Light Vehicle Test Procedure (WLTP) standard. The official driving range for IONIQ 5 is still to be announced. "

[EV Dan]

With little huff and puff, this mass market EV just broke a 300 mile EPA range per charge milestone in its RWD trim:

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/12/07/2022-hyundai-ioniq-5-ev-electric-range-epa/