Topic: 2022 F-150 Lightning

[Guy]

It's more than that it is downright dangerous. Get stuck in traffic at that temp and run out of charge? Popsicle city.

A typical ICE vehicle can idle at around 2L/hour? and keep the occupants warm. Half tank of 30L buys you 15 hours..

I could go…a whole week idling lol


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While also running heat in -30C temps?

Assuming a 5 kW heater I’d say about 20 hours starting with a full battery for the standard one. 26 hours with the extended range battery.

You may freeze to death but not from carbon monoxide poisoning if your car is covered with snow.


https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/carbon-monoxide-poisoning/71433/

[EV-Light]

It's more than that it is downright dangerous. Get stuck in traffic at that temp and run out of charge? Popsicle city.

A typical ICE vehicle can idle at around 2L/hour? and keep the occupants warm. Half tank of 30L buys you 15 hours..

I could go…a whole week idling lol


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While also running heat in -30C temps?

Assuming a 5 kW heater I’d say about 20 hours starting with a full battery for the standard one. 26 hours with the extended range battery.

You may freeze to death but not from carbon monoxide poisoning if your car is covered with snow.


https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/carbon-monoxide-poisoning/71433/

You are not running that 5kwh heater non stop….in reality it’s more like 1.5kwh to keep the cabin at a decent temp, 20C?!


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[Guy]

The heater is near its capacity with -30c ambiant. And it will probably heat up the battery as well at that temp.

But for sure my estimate is the worst case scenario.

[Layne]

https://www.tiktok.com/@powerguygoeselectric/video/7179754590991174918?_t=8YNdbfUgTQM&_r=1

Seems reasonable.

😂

[revalations]

https://www.tiktok.com/@powerguygoeselectric/video/7179754590991174918?_t=8YNdbfUgTQM&_r=1

Seems reasonable.

[emoji23]

Reasonable enough. Lousy heat, 50% range loss, and he doesn’t really trust his brand new expensive car to go further than 100km out of town in the cold. Honestly guys, that stuff is just small inconveniences.


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[EV-Light]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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[Guy]

Went for Christmas eve dinner to my daughter’s place last night, 200 km round trip in Charlevoix, so quite hilly, -14C with strong winds and blizzard like conditions at times. Arrived back home with 35% battery left, cabin very warm, car stable as a freight train in those conditions.

Nothing else to report.

[Layne]

My father in law has a 2018 F-150 with the 5.0L in Newfoundland.  This wouldn't interest him in the least, not because it isn't fast enough, or can't tow or carry what he needs, but simply because he can't take a road trip from where they are to NB to see us or to ON to visit their grand kids. 

So Ford has a hybrid and now a fully electric F-150.  Would it be wrong of me to think that a PHEV version would likely do very well also, maybe something that has 50-60km of electric range, but a total range of over 500kms with the gas engine?

Today — this is totally right. The Feds are going to dump a lot of tax payer money to build the infra, so in a future not so distant…this will definitely be a non-issue.


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[Fobroader]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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Jesus, imagine being so delusional, and privileged, that you would wish for $5 dollar gas, and four more years of Turdashian, just so you could "prove" to a group of strangers that you bought an inferior F150. Yeah, I hope those low income poors, who will never be able to buy some impractical ev just to prove to the neighbors how much better they are, have to rollerblade to work. You bought an F150 with Focus levels of truck ability that doesn't work for a lot of Canada, don't you put that curse out there on everyone else.

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[revalations]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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Jesus, imagine being so delusional, and privileged, that you would wish for $5 dollar gas, and four more years of Turdashian, just so you could "prove" to a group of strangers that you bought an inferior F150. Yeah, I hope those low income poors, who will never be able to buy some impractical ev just to prove to the neighbors how much better they are, have to rollerblade to work. You bought an F150 with Focus levels of truck ability that doesn't work for a lot of Canada, don't you put that curse out there on everyone else.

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100% troll. At this point that’s not even debatable. Let’s play his game; “ I hope our grid fails and electricity gets so expensive that it costs dumb EV owners $150 to go 100km”

Wonder how the carbon tax @$500 is going to affect heating his home, buying electricity, and purchasing general commodities. Trucking isn’t dumb enough to go all EV, neither is Rail, ships, or air freight, imagine the price increases when all these guys are running at $5 gas?

Sorry, even at $5. I’m not buying a inefficient (highway) compromised, and extremely expensive EV. My use would not make buying one prudent choice in vehicles.

I appreciate many buy EV and they’re enjoying them, like the Mach E owner in the video, loves the car, it just not as ivory tower perfect for him as others. FUD is spreading by both ICE and EV guys all the time.


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[Fobroader]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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Jesus, imagine being so delusional, and privileged, that you would wish for $5 dollar gas, and four more years of Turdashian, just so you could "prove" to a group of strangers that you bought an inferior F150. Yeah, I hope those low income poors, who will never be able to buy some impractical ev just to prove to the neighbors how much better they are, have to rollerblade to work. You bought an F150 with Focus levels of truck ability that doesn't work for a lot of Canada, don't you put that curse out there on everyone else.

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100% troll. At this point that’s not even debatable. Let’s play his game; “ I hope our grid fails and electricity gets so expensive that it costs dumb EV owners $150 to go 100km”

Wonder how the carbon tax @$500 is going to affect heating his home, buying electricity, and purchasing general commodities. Trucking isn’t dumb enough to go all EV, neither is Rail, ships, or air freight, imagine the price increases when all these guys are running at $5 gas?

Sorry, even at $5. I’m not buying a inefficient (highway) compromised, and extremely expensive EV.


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Nothing better than spending $100k plus on a vehicle to "save on fuel". You want to do that, buy a $20k used Prius.

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[revalations]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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Jesus, imagine being so delusional, and privileged, that you would wish for $5 dollar gas, and four more years of Turdashian, just so you could "prove" to a group of strangers that you bought an inferior F150. Yeah, I hope those low income poors, who will never be able to buy some impractical ev just to prove to the neighbors how much better they are, have to rollerblade to work. You bought an F150 with Focus levels of truck ability that doesn't work for a lot of Canada, don't you put that curse out there on everyone else.

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100% troll. At this point that’s not even debatable. Let’s play his game; “ I hope our grid fails and electricity gets so expensive that it costs dumb EV owners $150 to go 100km”

Wonder how the carbon tax @$500 is going to affect heating his home, buying electricity, and purchasing general commodities. Trucking isn’t dumb enough to go all EV, neither is Rail, ships, or air freight, imagine the price increases when all these guys are running at $5 gas?

Sorry, even at $5. I’m not buying a inefficient (highway) compromised, and extremely expensive EV.


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Nothing better than spending $100k plus on a vehicle to "save on fuel". You want to do that, buy a $20k used Prius.

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This is where cheaper little guys like the Bolt and Leaf come in. If I had a in town job I’d have one to commute to work. My next door neighbour has one and that’s exactly what he uses it for. What a perfect application for a EV.

A truck though? Forget it! A sports car/sedan, still no because I’d use that vehicle to travel (my typical week is 1000km+).


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[EV-Light]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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Jesus, imagine being so delusional, and privileged, that you would wish for $5 dollar gas, and four more years of Turdashian, just so you could "prove" to a group of strangers that you bought an inferior F150. Yeah, I hope those low income poors, who will never be able to buy some impractical ev just to prove to the neighbors how much better they are, have to rollerblade to work. You bought an F150 with Focus levels of truck ability that doesn't work for a lot of Canada, don't you put that curse out there on everyone else.

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100% troll. At this point that’s not even debatable. Let’s play his game; “ I hope our grid fails and electricity gets so expensive that it costs dumb EV owners $150 to go 100km”

Wonder how the carbon tax @$500 is going to affect heating his home, buying electricity, and purchasing general commodities. Trucking isn’t dumb enough to go all EV, neither is Rail, ships, or air freight, imagine the price increases when all these guys are running at $5 gas?

Sorry, even at $5. I’m not buying a inefficient (highway) compromised, and extremely expensive EV. My use would not make buying one prudent choice in vehicles.

I appreciate many buy EV and they’re enjoying them, like the Mach E owner in the video, loves the car, it just not as ivory tower perfect for him as others. FUD is spreading by both ICE and EV guys all the time.


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Not troll at all, it’s what is coming - you can deny reality as much as you want, but that’s what will happen…

Kinda cool though, people that drive truck in suburbia - like me for example - but can’t afford gas or the price of a new EV truck will be forced to downsize to something more realistic and within their budget or move to public transportation.

Saving earth won’t be easy and will create a lot of push back…


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[quadzilla]

I can't wait until EV owners start bitching when they have to pay a yearly road tax. Has already happened in some provinces.

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I can't wait until EV owners start bitching when they have to pay a yearly road tax. Has already happened in some provinces.

I can’t wait until EV owners stop trying to shove their preferences down everyone else’s throats. Can’t wait until they accept that their cars can exist with ICE and everyone should have a choice of what they drive.

Still wondering why a huge gas station is being built out my way, big investment for something that’ll be irrelevant in 7 years. The land itself was 1.2MM. You’d think at this point it would at the very least have a few EV chargers, but it doesn’t.


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[Layne]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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Jesus, imagine being so delusional, and privileged, that you would wish for $5 dollar gas, and four more years of Turdashian, just so you could "prove" to a group of strangers that you bought an inferior F150. Yeah, I hope those low income poors, who will never be able to buy some impractical ev just to prove to the neighbors how much better they are, have to rollerblade to work. You bought an F150 with Focus levels of truck ability that doesn't work for a lot of Canada, don't you put that curse out there on everyone else.

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100% troll. At this point that’s not even debatable. Let’s play his game; “ I hope our grid fails and electricity gets so expensive that it costs dumb EV owners $150 to go 100km”

Wonder how the carbon tax @$500 is going to affect heating his home, buying electricity, and purchasing general commodities. Trucking isn’t dumb enough to go all EV, neither is Rail, ships, or air freight, imagine the price increases when all these guys are running at $5 gas?

Sorry, even at $5. I’m not buying a inefficient (highway) compromised, and extremely expensive EV. My use would not make buying one prudent choice in vehicles.

I appreciate many buy EV and they’re enjoying them, like the Mach E owner in the video, loves the car, it just not as ivory tower perfect for him as others. FUD is spreading by both ICE and EV guys all the time.


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Not troll at all, it’s what is coming - you can deny reality as much as you want, but that’s what will happen…

Kinda cool though, people that drive truck in suburbia - like me for example - but can’t afford gas or the price of a new EV truck will be forced to downsize to something more realistic and within their budget or move to public transportation.

Saving earth won’t be easy and will create a lot of push back…


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Saving the Earth?  THIS is what you are falling back on once the hard question arise?

[Layne]

I can't wait until EV owners start bitching when they have to pay a yearly road tax. Has already happened in some provinces.

I can’t wait until EV owners stop trying to shove their preferences down everyone else’s throats. Can’t wait until they accept that their cars can exist with ICE and everyone should have a choice of what they drive.

Still wondering why a huge gas station is being built out my way, big investment for something that’ll be irrelevant in 7 years. The land itself was 1.2MM. You’d think at this point it would at the very least have a few EV chargers, but it doesn’t.


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He is completely ignoring that electricity is a commodity, where pricing is moved by both market fundamentals (supply and demand) and technicals (market movers and hedge funds).

This is going to be a mess and is a cart before the horse.

[rrocket]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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Jesus, imagine being so delusional, and privileged, that you would wish for $5 dollar gas, and four more years of Turdashian, just so you could "prove" to a group of strangers that you bought an inferior F150. Yeah, I hope those low income poors, who will never be able to buy some impractical ev just to prove to the neighbors how much better they are, have to rollerblade to work. You bought an F150 with Focus levels of truck ability that doesn't work for a lot of Canada, don't you put that curse out there on everyone else.

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100% troll. At this point that’s not even debatable. Let’s play his game; “ I hope our grid fails and electricity gets so expensive that it costs dumb EV owners $150 to go 100km”

Wonder how the carbon tax @$500 is going to affect heating his home, buying electricity, and purchasing general commodities. Trucking isn’t dumb enough to go all EV, neither is Rail, ships, or air freight, imagine the price increases when all these guys are running at $5 gas?

Sorry, even at $5. I’m not buying a inefficient (highway) compromised, and extremely expensive EV.


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Nothing better than spending $100k plus on a vehicle to "save on fuel". You want to do that, buy a $20k used Prius.

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You rang?

LOL [emoji38]

[Gurgie]

Hey I drove 170km @-27C a couple weeks ago…no issues at all! Pure BS ‘can’t leave town’….just people being dumb - the resistance voices will become louder as more and more people dump ICE.

I’m happy to see gas will go up again in a few weeks [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Once we have a new liberal government, we will see carbon tax @$500

$5 gas is coming!


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Jesus, imagine being so delusional, and privileged, that you would wish for $5 dollar gas, and four more years of Turdashian, just so you could "prove" to a group of strangers that you bought an inferior F150. Yeah, I hope those low income poors, who will never be able to buy some impractical ev just to prove to the neighbors how much better they are, have to rollerblade to work. You bought an F150 with Focus levels of truck ability that doesn't work for a lot of Canada, don't you put that curse out there on everyone else.

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100% troll. At this point that’s not even debatable. Let’s play his game; “ I hope our grid fails and electricity gets so expensive that it costs dumb EV owners $150 to go 100km”

Wonder how the carbon tax @$500 is going to affect heating his home, buying electricity, and purchasing general commodities. Trucking isn’t dumb enough to go all EV, neither is Rail, ships, or air freight, imagine the price increases when all these guys are running at $5 gas?

Sorry, even at $5. I’m not buying a inefficient (highway) compromised, and extremely expensive EV. My use would not make buying one prudent choice in vehicles.

I appreciate many buy EV and they’re enjoying them, like the Mach E owner in the video, loves the car, it just not as ivory tower perfect for him as others. FUD is spreading by both ICE and EV guys all the time.


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Not troll at all, it’s what is coming - you can deny reality as much as you want, but that’s what will happen…

Kinda cool though, people that drive truck in suburbia - like me for example - but can’t afford gas or the price of a new EV truck will be forced to downsize to something more realistic and within their budget or move to public transportation.

Saving earth won’t be easy and will create a lot of push back…


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You're seriously in the head! And live in a bubble with blinders on if this is how you truly think.

But seriously, I believe you just like to be an ass on here & troll, which you're very successful at, so for that



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[2JDM]

I find some EV fan boys are like vegans and Leafs fans  Nothing wrong with any of those, but they sure have hella strong opinions and love to show that their views are superior.