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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #240 on: January 11, 2022, 08:34:58 pm »

As far as when you get it, you could be like me who was informed on Friday that they don't know where my car is (not a VW but shipped from Germany.  They think.  Maybe.  Could be.)

Huh...  many years ago I had a similar situation with an A4 I had ordered.  After tracking it for a month, the dealer "lost" it around Montreal apparently. To salvage the deal, they offered me another A4 with more options in a different colour that was already on the lot. 

And just this past week, after being strung along by the local Audi dealership wondering if/when his new SQ5 was going to arrive for too long, he pulled the plug on the deal and has a new X3 on order instead now.

Thanks for sharing.  The M340 is still at 'port' awaiting a chip and currently under a do not ship order.  The funny thing is that the dealer told me in early November that it was a matter of days before it would arrive.  Now they are thinking March....'ish.

It will be worth the wait…what are you currently driving?

Sharing an RDX with my wife 😜

I see…you will have one hell of a spring in you dravit grey bimmer!

Unless that chip takes 18 months to be made.  :rofl2:


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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #241 on: January 28, 2022, 04:58:15 pm »
Ummmm, did VW just increase the price by $1k for their Golf R.  What’s up with that Patrick?  They have barely hit dealers and now you jack the price up.  Not cool, I hope all those that have an order placed still get the previous sales price and not this new one.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #242 on: January 28, 2022, 07:31:37 pm »
Ummmm, did VW just increase the price by $1k for their Golf R.  What’s up with that Patrick?  They have barely hit dealers and now you jack the price up.  Not cool, I hope all those that have an order placed still get the previous sales price and not this new one.
My dealer called me about that.    A couple of weeks ago.    If I was going to finance they would have needed the credit check to be done immediately to avoid that price rise.  But as I'd be cash and trade in  the original price would be the same.


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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #243 on: January 28, 2022, 07:45:03 pm »
Ummmm, did VW just increase the price by $1k for their Golf R.  What’s up with that Patrick?  They have barely hit dealers and now you jack the price up.  Not cool, I hope all those that have an order placed still get the previous sales price and not this new one.

Happening everywhere with many manufacturers now.
Usually price increases don’t happen a couple of months into a new model launch, typically if the manufacturer needs more money they adjust the interest rate or residuals.  I’d be pissed if I had one on order and they asked to increase the price by $1k.  Not saying those with orders are having this happen, just that if it is, I would be upset.

Would love to hear from Patrick on why this happened.  Is this on all VWs or just the R?  How bad is our dollar that they needed to make this adjustment so quickly.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #244 on: January 28, 2022, 07:48:45 pm »
Ummmm, did VW just increase the price by $1k for their Golf R.  What’s up with that Patrick?  They have barely hit dealers and now you jack the price up.  Not cool, I hope all those that have an order placed still get the previous sales price and not this new one.

Happening everywhere with many manufacturers now.
Usually price increases don’t happen a couple of months into a new model launch, typically if the manufacturer needs more money they adjust the interest rate or residuals.  I’d be pissed if I had one on order and they asked to increase the price by $1k.  Not saying those with orders are having this happen, just that if it is, I would be upset.

Would love to hear from Patrick on why this happened.  Is this on all VWs or just the R?  How bad is our dollar that they needed to make this adjustment so quickly.

Patrick underpriced the car and got in trouble :)
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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #245 on: January 28, 2022, 07:53:36 pm »
Ummmm, did VW just increase the price by $1k for their Golf R.  What’s up with that Patrick?  They have barely hit dealers and now you jack the price up.  Not cool, I hope all those that have an order placed still get the previous sales price and not this new one.

Happening everywhere with many manufacturers now.
Usually price increases don’t happen a couple of months into a new model launch, typically if the manufacturer needs more money they adjust the interest rate or residuals.  I’d be pissed if I had one on order and they asked to increase the price by $1k.  Not saying those with orders are having this happen, just that if it is, I would be upset.

Would love to hear from Patrick on why this happened.  Is this on all VWs or just the R?  How bad is our dollar that they needed to make this adjustment so quickly.

Patrick underpriced the car and got in trouble :)
Or, Patrick asked for a raise and that was the domino that caused this price increase.  Greedy bastard! :rofl2:

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #246 on: January 28, 2022, 09:45:12 pm »
Usually price increases don’t happen a couple of months into a new model launch

These aren't ordinary times.

I'm pretty sure VW or any manufacturer can change the price of the product anytime they want to. If you signed a deal at X price, then you will pay that price as you have a contract. If you waited to buy the car, better find another grand or go buy something else. No different than any other product.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #247 on: January 29, 2022, 07:58:43 am »
Usually price increases don’t happen a couple of months into a new model launch

These aren't ordinary times.

I'm pretty sure VW or any manufacturer can change the price of the product anytime they want to. If you signed a deal at X price, then you will pay that price as you have a contract. If you waited to buy the car, better find another grand or go buy something else. No different than any other product.
Guys, I know they can change the price whenever they choose, all I was saying is that it sucks and that in normal times they would have just adjusted the finances and lease rates.  Obviously these aren’t normal times.  Just weird that it happened so soon from when this vehicle arrived.  I think the first ones that hit dealers was like late October or early November.  But they probably have the next 3+ months of cars sold, so really this price increase doesn’t have an affect on owners until the spring, so a mid model year price increase.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #248 on: January 29, 2022, 08:03:32 am »
Usually price increases don’t happen a couple of months into a new model launch

These aren't ordinary times.

I'm pretty sure VW or any manufacturer can change the price of the product anytime they want to. If you signed a deal at X price, then you will pay that price as you have a contract. If you waited to buy the car, better find another grand or go buy something else. No different than any other product.
Guys, I know they can change the price whenever they choose, all I was saying is that it sucks and that in normal times they would have just adjusted the finances and lease rates.  Obviously these aren’t normal times.  Just weird that it happened so soon from when this vehicle arrived.  I think the first ones that hit dealers was like late October or early November.  But they probably have the next 3+ months of cars sold, so really this price increase doesn’t have an affect on owners until the spring, so a mid model year price increase.

Hasn't this been on sale for a year or longer on the other side of the pond? We are a very tiny market for VW. I'm also thinking the inflation of car parts isn't helping either.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #249 on: January 29, 2022, 09:33:01 am »
Usually price increases don’t happen a couple of months into a new model launch

These aren't ordinary times.

I'm pretty sure VW or any manufacturer can change the price of the product anytime they want to. If you signed a deal at X price, then you will pay that price as you have a contract. If you waited to buy the car, better find another grand or go buy something else. No different than any other product.
Guys, I know they can change the price whenever they choose, all I was saying is that it sucks and that in normal times they would have just adjusted the finances and lease rates.  Obviously these aren’t normal times.  Just weird that it happened so soon from when this vehicle arrived.  I think the first ones that hit dealers was like late October or early November.  But they probably have the next 3+ months of cars sold, so really this price increase doesn’t have an affect on owners until the spring, so a mid model year price increase.

Hasn't this been on sale for a year or longer on the other side of the pond? We are a very tiny market for VW. I'm also thinking the inflation of car parts isn't helping either.
Small for VW total sales, big for Golf R sales.  I think I read somewhere that our market is the 3rd largest for the Golf R.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #250 on: January 29, 2022, 07:39:14 pm »
Golf R pricing was set in mid-2020, and "locked in" in the first half of 2021. Since then, supply chain shocks have had substantial cost effects. On some models we can absorb this via reduced incentive spending - not as necessary when supply is restricted - but not so for a Golf R where the car sells incentive-free even in normal times. Cost is cost, and at the end of the day, we don't operate a charity.

To the points above, inflation is fairly standard in the industry, and normally we'd wait for a model year change. But we currently live in extraordinary times. I get daily reporting on inflation actions across the industry - they're literally happening daily right now, from all brands. At the same time as Golf R pricing was adjusted, Tiguan and Atlas also saw increases of $400 and $500, respectively.

The Golf R is sold out for roughly a year, and out of respect for our customers, all existing orders were protected under the old pricing. Only the people joining the back of the queue since January 5 pay the higher pricing. To that end, it basically is like we're doing this at the model year change - because of the incredible demand, we simply have to draw the line a lot sooner to "catch" the order bank.
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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #251 on: January 30, 2022, 10:40:01 am »
Thank you for the explanation Patrick.  I know it wasn’t a decision of greed but that of necessity.  Any idea if this happened in other markets or was is specifically a Canadian issue?  As always, keep up the good work.  Love the new Golf R and GTI, but if you could suggest a couple interior improvements that would also go a long way to making it perfect. 

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #252 on: January 30, 2022, 11:59:52 am »
Thank you for the explanation Patrick.  I know it wasn’t a decision of greed but that of necessity.  Any idea if this happened in other markets or was is specifically a Canadian issue?  As always, keep up the good work.  Love the new Golf R and GTI, but if you could suggest a couple interior improvements that would also go a long way to making it perfect.

Can't really speak for other markets. We're each tasked with managing our own profitability, based on our local situation.

Regarding the interior improvements, let's just say it's an area where we see plenty of opportunity to make a great car even better.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #253 on: January 30, 2022, 01:08:04 pm »
I still live in hope mine will arrive…sometime.  I am resisting bugging Patrick or the dealer too often!

Until I get the car or the owners manual and try a few things I have no suggestions for improvement.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #254 on: January 30, 2022, 01:13:03 pm »
Probably Cadure that will be so.  When I got my 1987 twin cam Golf GTI that indeed happened,  a permanent grin.   Same when I got my 2008 Golf GTI.

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« Reply #255 on: January 30, 2022, 02:02:09 pm »
Golf R pricing was set in mid-2020, and "locked in" in the first half of 2021. Since then, supply chain shocks have had substantial cost effects. On some models we can absorb this via reduced incentive spending - not as necessary when supply is restricted - but not so for a Golf R where the car sells incentive-free even in normal times. Cost is cost, and at the end of the day, we don't operate a charity.

To the points above, inflation is fairly standard in the industry, and normally we'd wait for a model year change. But we currently live in extraordinary times. I get daily reporting on inflation actions across the industry - they're literally happening daily right now, from all brands. At the same time as Golf R pricing was adjusted, Tiguan and Atlas also saw increases of $400 and $500, respectively.

The Golf R is sold out for roughly a year, and out of respect for our customers, all existing orders were protected under the old pricing. Only the people joining the back of the queue since January 5 pay the higher pricing. To that end, it basically is like we're doing this at the model year change - because of the incredible demand, we simply have to draw the line a lot sooner to "catch" the order bank.

All good, fair points IMHO.

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #256 on: February 09, 2022, 12:44:44 pm »
It's such a shame, I think the Mk7 is a perfect example of how to pull off a nice looking and completely functional interior,
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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #257 on: February 09, 2022, 12:57:40 pm »
Here's hoping VW walks back the haptic feedback HMI in a mid-model refresh.  It's been done before (Honda).

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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #258 on: February 10, 2022, 08:21:41 am »
Here's hoping VW walks back the haptic feedback HMI in a mid-model refresh.  It's been done before (Honda).
It’s been done even before Honda - Ford MyTouch back in 2010! LOL one could argue technology improved lots since then but clearly the issues still persist…


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Re: 2022 Golf R Mk8
« Reply #259 on: February 10, 2022, 08:36:06 am »