Topic: 2022 Golf R Mk8

[warp]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j9LEro19UesI

Carwow tested it and did 0-60 in around 4.1 seconds for the DSG.  Interestingly he UK does not get a manual option.

I think the measuring equipment i.e. Racelogic etc. can be setup to measure from the point the car beings to move or after the "rollout". That can subtract 0.2 seconds from the 0-60 as well as the 1/4 mile times. I think that Car and Driver as well as Motor Trend use the rollout setting and so their 0-60 times are always quicker by 0.2-0.3 seconds. The 4.6 seconds that Redline Reviews got is pretty good. It is better than the 4.7 secs that VW itself claims and I predict that Car and Driver will get 4.3-4.4 seconds when they test because of the way they measure 0-60.

At least one other European tester has got 4.1 but that was also after he enabled the rollout function on his Racelogic box like C&D. And as Patrick says it is possible that Euro spec cars with some additional torque could account for the other 0.1-0.2 sec or so difference in timing.

[rrocket]

I think that first one may have been a ringer as it was matching the RS3…

I soooo totally dig the RS3...

[dirtyjeffer]

I think that first one may have been a ringer as it was matching the RS3…

I soooo totally dig the RS3...

that engine is a gem.

[JohnnyMac]

I think that first one may have been a ringer as it was matching the RS3…

I soooo totally dig the RS3...

I agree but I wish they would offer it with a manual.  That would pretty much make it the perfect little sports sedan.

[pi314]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j9LEro19UesI

Carwow tested it and did 0-60 in around 4.1 seconds for the DSG.  Interestingly he UK does not get a manual option.

North America is the only market that gets the manual car. A minor miracle, and one I'm thrilled about.

Re: the 0-60 time, a few tenths can sway on the basis of temperature, altitude, fuel quality, and minor performance variation between individual units. The EU-spec units make 15 lb-ft of torque more due to higher-quality fuel, so I'm very pleased to see the car doing 4.5-4.6 sec out of the box in NA-spec. I'm sure Car & Driver and the other buff books will find a few more tenths in the car.

I'm falling more in love with mine by the day.

So.... waiting list to buy your car? Assuming the used car market comes back to normal sometime soon 

[Patrick_D1]

Review from our friends at AutoTrader: https://www.autotrader.ca/expert/20211112/2022-volkswagen-golf-gti-and-golf-r-first-drive-review/

[warp]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a38211950/2021-honda-civic-type-r-vs-2022-vw-golf-r-compared/

Car & Driver 2022 Golf R vs 2021 Honda Type R comparo!!

Omitting the 1 ft rollout which is 0.2 seconds, C&D does 3.9 secs to 0-60 mph and 10.0 seconds to 0-100 mph in the Golf R!!

[rrocket]

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/comparison-test/a38211950/2021-honda-civic-type-r-vs-2022-vw-golf-r-compared/

Car & Driver 2022 Golf R vs 2021 Honda Type R comparo!!

Omitting the 1 ft rollout which is 0.2 seconds, C&D does 3.9 secs to 0-60 mph and 10.0 seconds to 0-100 mph in the Golf R!!

Not shocking the AWD car is quicker to 60, is it?

Also...they picked the Type R as the winner.  It was more satisfying to drive.

[JohnnyMac]

Looks like the guys at Throttle House like the new GTI and especially the R.  They of course mention the interior shortcomings but they do say it's not a deal breaker.  Wish we could see a review of the manual Golf R because the DSG isn't as appealing to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zC2fS-6NYFQ

[quadzilla]

I wish they had more time to do a race from zero without using launch control to see how close it would be. The S3 really doesn't make much value sense vs the R.

Thottle House - 2022 Golf R vs BMW M240i vs Audi S3 // DRAG & ROLL RACE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMHPAj4cxMc&ab_channel=ThrottleHouse

[JohnnyMac]

I wish they had more time to do a race from zero without using launch control to see how close it would be. The S3 really doesn't make much value sense vs the R.

Thottle House - 2022 Golf R vs BMW M240i vs Audi S3 // DRAG & ROLL RACE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMHPAj4cxMc&ab_channel=ThrottleHouse

That was rather predictable outcome.  That BMW M240i has acceleration numbers to when the current Nissan GTR came out (way back in mid/late 2000's), people are clocking the BMW at around 3.6 seconds to 60 and when that GTR came out it was 3.5 seconds.  Remember when everyone lost their minds with that amount of acceleration, just process that for a moment, the M line BMW now has similar acceleration to that "supercar killer".  What a world we live in.  Makes you wonder how the M2 can possibly be as quick with RWD and a manual. 

Lots to like about both the Audi and the Golf R.  If VW could just have the same infotainment, dash, buttons, etc, as the Audi it would be pretty much perfect.  That being said, if you can live with that interior, it's by far the best buy of the bunch.

The RS3 is going to be epic and it should at the very least match the M240i, but maybe beat it just a touch, and 100000% sound better.

[quadzilla]

What a world we live in.

Where I live my GTI with a +1 tune was way too fast for public roads and I still find I can't use all the Rolla's power because people are in my way. Back highways have police hidden in bushes waiting to impound your car and freeways are clogged with transports trucks.  Just yesterday there was a 20 km backup on the 401 at 7AM which didn't involve and accident or bad weather, just a lane closed for construction.

I've lost interest 0-100 kph numbers and would rather a slower car that offers much more feedback than power. I'd take this (ignore the price) over many new cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-mUOpbyNlQ

/rant

[JohnnyMac]

What a world we live in.

Where I live my GTI with a +1 tune was way too fast for public roads and I still find I can't use all the Rolla's power because people are in my way. Back highways have police hidden in bushes waiting to impound your car and freeways are clogged with transports trucks.  Just yesterday there was a 20 km backup on the 401 at 7AM which didn't involve and accident or bad weather, just a lane closed for construction.

I've lost interest 0-100 kph numbers and would rather a slower car that offers much more feedback than power. I'd take this (ignore the price) over many new cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-mUOpbyNlQ

/rant

I totally get that.  My GLI with 228hp is more than enough for daily use and even some fun back road blasts when the opportunity presents itself.  There is a lot of logic in your thinking.  That's why cars like the Miata and BRZ are such great daily performance cars, their performance is both approachable and usable.  Still, it is fun to have something with some overwhelming grunt that you can floor it from time to time. 

[quadzilla]

Still, it is fun to have something with some overwhelming grunt that you can floor it from time to time.

Won't argue that.

[tortoise]

I've lost interest 0-100 kph numbers and would rather a slower car that offers much more feedback than power. I'd take this (ignore the price) over many new cars.

If there was a modern equivalent of the Protege5 I would be very tempted to buy one.

[Patrick_D1]

I definitely sometimes feel like I can barely touch the Golf R's capabilities on the street, it's just so quick and lays down the power without complaint. Not as silly as the TT-V8 Audi RS models I've driven, but still. The manual gearbox is a big help in this regard - it help makes you feel like you're "working" for the speed, and makes the car more engaging when you're just tootling along.

The really interesting paradigm shift will be BEVs. Are we really ready for roads where even "slow" cars can still crack off 7-sec sprints to 100 kph? The faster ones I've driven (ex.: e-Tron GT) genuinely hurt at full whack.

[Dante]

What a world we live in.

Where I live my GTI with a +1 tune was way too fast for public roads and I still find I can't use all the Rolla's power because people are in my way. Back highways have police hidden in bushes waiting to impound your car and freeways are clogged with transports trucks.  Just yesterday there was a 20 km backup on the 401 at 7AM which didn't involve and accident or bad weather, just a lane closed for construction.

I've lost interest 0-100 kph numbers and would rather a slower car that offers much more feedback than power. I'd take this (ignore the price) over many new cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-mUOpbyNlQ

/rant

 

I feel the same with my GTI. Aside from short stints on/off few highway ramps, you cannot stretch it's legs without risking to get in trouble. It's more car than you'll ever need for a DD.

This is why I much prefer to drive the BMW.  The GTI is faster in any acceleration test, easier to drive, has more features, but the BMW is more rewarding to drive IMO.

Maybe it's a sign of getting older, but I too prefer the old, more analogue cars to the current cars.

[tortoise]

I don't think age is a factor.  I remember driving a first gen Mazda3 and thought it was a huge step back in the fun dept. vs the Protege.  Better in every other metric I'm sure, but way less fun.

[PJungnitsch]

The really interesting paradigm shift will be BEVs. Are we really ready for roads where even "slow" cars can still crack off 7-sec sprints to 100 kph? The faster ones I've driven (ex.: e-Tron GT) genuinely hurt at full whack.

If it's anything like riding a motorcycle, having crazy acceleration at your beck and call can be a good thing and a bad thing

Be prepared for more last minute passing 

[JG20]

I don't think age is a factor.  I remember driving a first gen Mazda3 and thought it was a huge step back in the fun dept. vs the Protege.  Better in every other metric I'm sure, but way less fun.

Agreed. Loved my Mazdaspeed Protege. It was a hoot to drive. Just too bad about the rust.