Author Topic: 2022 Golf R Mk8 (Read 76081 times)

dirtyjeffer · « **Reply #60 on:** May 20, 2021, 12:15:11 pm »

Quote from: Cadure on May 20, 2021, 11:19:15 am

MK8 R vs MK7 R

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6alEQGuroiM

it's quick, that's for sure...to paraphrase Jeremy Clarkson "That Golf R just

off".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWrUl3uemb4

i agree though, i think VW is sandbagging the numbers a bit...the guy driving the older Golf R mentioned the torque, but i think the difference is HP...they are similar off the line (the new one seems to launch a little faster, and there may be a bit more torque), but the difference widens at speed, which would be HP...i wouldn't be surprised if this is putting 320HP to the wheels (if not a bit more).

rrocket · « **Reply #61 on:** May 20, 2021, 05:29:00 pm »

Quote from: Cadure on May 20, 2021, 05:23:30 pm

For sure. Given the quarter mile time, that proves out the hp.

Which 1/4 mile times?

What are they?

I did the calculations for the GTI and it's only making ~15HP more than advertised based on trap speed.

rrocket · « **Reply #62 on:** May 20, 2021, 05:40:59 pm »

Quote from: Cadure on May 20, 2021, 05:33:43 pm

Quote from: rrocket on May 20, 2021, 05:29:00 pm
Quote from: Cadure on May 20, 2021, 05:23:30 pm

For sure. Given the quarter mile time, that proves out the hp.

Which 1/4 mile times?

What are they?

I did the calculations for the GTI and it's only making ~15HP more than advertised based on trap speed.

I don’t have speeds but 12.2 to 12.3 in the quarter so the performance isn’t just at the launch. I have to think at least 112 mph.

Top speed is 172 mph

Thoughts?

12.2@112 puts the crank HP at ~358

dirtyjeffer · « **Reply #63 on:** May 20, 2021, 07:44:11 pm »

Quote from: Cadure on May 20, 2021, 07:29:56 pm

Quote from: rrocket on May 20, 2021, 05:40:59 pm
Quote from: Cadure on May 20, 2021, 05:33:43 pm
Quote from: rrocket on May 20, 2021, 05:29:00 pm
Quote from: Cadure on May 20, 2021, 05:23:30 pm

For sure. Given the quarter mile time, that proves out the hp.

Which 1/4 mile times?

What are they?

I did the calculations for the GTI and it's only making ~15HP more than advertised based on trap speed.

I don’t have speeds but 12.2 to 12.3 in the quarter so the performance isn’t just at the launch. I have to think at least 112 mph.

Top speed is 172 mph

Thoughts?

12.2@112 puts the crank HP at ~358

And we are seeing dynos at around 350 at the crank.

would that equate to around 320 at the wheels then?

Patrick_D1 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 14, 2021, 05:44:02 pm »

Pricing is out:

$31,495 GTI | +$1,350 for 18" wheels, sunroof
$34,995 GTI Autobahn | +$1,800 for 19" wheels, sunroof, harman/kardon audio
$38,995 GTI Performance | +$1,250 for sunroof, +$0 for leather delete (i.e. go back to cloth)
+$1,400 on all for DSG

$44,995 for Golf R | +$1,250 for sunroof
+$1,400 for DSG

They. Are. Going. To. SELL.

tpl · « **Reply #65 on:** July 14, 2021, 05:55:08 pm »

I wonder if I should just go and order a Golf R ( no sunroof and a DSG)

The last hit at an overpowered rollerskate.

rrocket · « **Reply #66 on:** July 14, 2021, 05:56:06 pm »

Quote from: Patrick_D1 on July 14, 2021, 05:44:02 pm

Pricing is out:

$31,495 GTI | +$1,350 for 18" wheels, sunroof
$34,995 GTI Autobahn | +$1,800 for 19" wheels, sunroof, harman/kardon audio
$38,995 GTI Performance | +$1,250 for sunroof, +$0 for leather delete (i.e. go back to cloth)
+$1,400 on all for DSG

$44,995 for Golf R | +$1,250 for sunroof
+$1,400 for DSG

They. Are. Going. To. SELL.

Is it just me, or is that expensive for a sunroof on a ~$30k vehicle?

JohnnyMac · « **Reply #67 on:** July 14, 2021, 06:03:51 pm »

Quote from: Patrick_D1 on July 14, 2021, 05:44:02 pm

Pricing is out:

$31,495 GTI | +$1,350 for 18" wheels, sunroof
$34,995 GTI Autobahn | +$1,800 for 19" wheels, sunroof, harman/kardon audio
$38,995 GTI Performance | +$1,250 for sunroof, +$0 for leather delete (i.e. go back to cloth)
+$1,400 on all for DSG

$44,995 for Golf R | +$1,250 for sunroof
+$1,400 for DSG

They. Are. Going. To. SELL.

I guess the only thing that we can ask for now is a couple more colour choices for the R. Otherwise you guys did an amazing job on packaging and pricing. If I wasn't big game hunting for my next vehicle I would definitely be considering them.

JohnnyMac · « **Reply #68 on:** July 14, 2021, 06:05:05 pm »

Quote from: tpl on July 14, 2021, 05:55:08 pm

I wonder if I should just go and order a Golf R ( no sunroof and a DSG)

The last hit at an overpowered rollerskate.

Yes you should, it is the perfect gentleman's performance car.

dougjp · « **Reply #69 on:** July 14, 2021, 06:30:55 pm »

The numbers do look good to me, the packaging not so much, but it might just be me. Lots (perhaps younger people with strong backs that haven't spent years damaging themselves going kart racing/trail riding etc.

) seem to like the small aspect ratio/rubber band and punishing ride that takes place in most locales north of the Mason Dixon line, which is the gift that keeps on giving with the 19's. Packaging those, which I don't want, with the luxury bits - sunroof and upscale audio, seems off. My GLi with 45 aspect ratio and Dynamic Chassis Control is perfect for our roads, IMO.

We might have to think about consolidating the two threads? Maybe changing the subject to be GTi and R? Dunno, maybe better still, have a thread for the GTi and this for the R?

I can't pry my wife's hands from the Elantra GT, she still loves it. Of course I want to replace it with a GTi or R for devious selfish reasons..... VW is trying to create marital problems here!

rrocket · « **Reply #70 on:** July 14, 2021, 06:34:55 pm »

Quote from: dougjp on July 14, 2021, 06:30:55 pm

I can't pry my wife's hands from the Elantra GT, she still loves it. Of course I want to replace it with a GTi or R for devious selfish reasons..... VW is trying to create marital problems here!

I say Elantra upgrade for her!!

https://jalopnik.com/the-2022-hyundai-elantra-n-is-serious-about-taking-on-t-1847290189

dougjp · « **Reply #71 on:** July 14, 2021, 06:40:34 pm »

Quote from: rrocket on July 14, 2021, 06:34:55 pm

Quote from: dougjp on July 14, 2021, 06:30:55 pm

I can't pry my wife's hands from the Elantra GT, she still loves it. Of course I want to replace it with a GTi or R for devious selfish reasons..... VW is trying to create marital problems here!

I say Elantra upgrade for her!!

https://jalopnik.com/the-2022-hyundai-elantra-n-is-serious-about-taking-on-t-1847290189

He he, upgrade to anything is the problem!

Actually this isn't a hatchback, which gives the visibility and smaller size. The N is a more powerful version of the Elantra Sport I owned before.

rrocket · « **Reply #72 on:** July 14, 2021, 06:43:23 pm »

Quote from: dougjp on July 14, 2021, 06:40:34 pm

Quote from: rrocket on July 14, 2021, 06:34:55 pm
Quote from: dougjp on July 14, 2021, 06:30:55 pm

I can't pry my wife's hands from the Elantra GT, she still loves it. Of course I want to replace it with a GTi or R for devious selfish reasons..... VW is trying to create marital problems here!

I say Elantra upgrade for her!!

https://jalopnik.com/the-2022-hyundai-elantra-n-is-serious-about-taking-on-t-1847290189

He he, upgrade to anything is the problem!

Actually this isn't a hatchback, which gives the visibility and smaller size. The N is a more powerful version of the Elantra Sport I owned before.

Yea, that's like IQ.

She isn't ever going to sell her IS300.

And that's fine.

I've only owned one car I've liked that much.....and I made the mistake of selling it.

rrocket · « **Reply #73 on:** July 14, 2021, 07:10:50 pm »

Quote from: Cadure on July 14, 2021, 06:58:59 pm

Hey Tauri, where you at?

Hey, go easy on him.

He's only off by ~$15k!!

HeliDriver · « **Reply #74 on:** July 14, 2021, 10:07:35 pm »

Nice. So I can still get a GTI with a manual, 17” rims, cloth and no sunroof. My 2010 spec’d that way was $29,800, IIRC, so the new one for $31,495 seems a pretty good deal.

Still, I’m not super excited about the MK8. Kind of feel like I should do something different for my next car, but guess we’ll see. I may just end up with another one if I chicken out on a new BRZ.