Topic: 2022 Lexus IS500 F Sport Performance

[rrocket]

I think $73k is pretty decent value.  The problem I have is if the BMW 340M and Merc C43 are much sportier feeling and handling.  I'm okay with it being a little slower, but I want it to at least match those in handling and how it drives.  If this is just an IS350 with a V8 and no other upgrades it's a bit too much MEH for me.

Makes the Caddy Blackwings look so much more appealing.

For me, the V8 far and away trumps the small shortcomings

[JohnnyMac]

I think $73k is pretty decent value.  The problem I have is if the BMW 340M and Merc C43 are much sportier feeling and handling.  I'm okay with it being a little slower, but I want it to at least match those in handling and how it drives.  If this is just an IS350 with a V8 and no other upgrades it's a bit too much MEH for me.

Makes the Caddy Blackwings look so much more appealing.

For me, the V8 far and away trumps the small shortcomings

I get it and by no means is it as disappointing as the WRX, but just wish they had given it a little more than just a great engine.  At $73k, that's still a very decent value, but you really must love that V8 to pick this over the M340, C43, S4, and CT4-V Blackwing.

[Fobroader]

I think $73k is pretty decent value.  The problem I have is if the BMW 340M and Merc C43 are much sportier feeling and handling.  I'm okay with it being a little slower, but I want it to at least match those in handling and how it drives.  If this is just an IS350 with a V8 and no other upgrades it's a bit too much MEH for me.

Makes the Caddy Blackwings look so much more appealing.

For me, the V8 far and away trumps the small shortcomings

I get it and by no means is it as disappointing as the WRX, but just wish they had given it a little more than just a great engine.  At $73k, that's still a very decent value, but you really must love that V8 to pick this over the M340, C43, S4, and CT4-V Blackwing.

The V8 is what makes the car...and makes it way more attractive to me than the others in this class.

[JohnnyMac]

I think $73k is pretty decent value.  The problem I have is if the BMW 340M and Merc C43 are much sportier feeling and handling.  I'm okay with it being a little slower, but I want it to at least match those in handling and how it drives.  If this is just an IS350 with a V8 and no other upgrades it's a bit too much MEH for me.

Makes the Caddy Blackwings look so much more appealing.

For me, the V8 far and away trumps the small shortcomings

I get it and by no means is it as disappointing as the WRX, but just wish they had given it a little more than just a great engine.  At $73k, that's still a very decent value, but you really must love that V8 to pick this over the M340, C43, S4, and CT4-V Blackwing.

The V8 is what makes the car...and makes it way more attractive to me than the others in this class.

I agree, that V8 is probably just slightly behind the supercharged V8 in the CT5-V Blackwing, and just ahead of the turbo 4L V8 in the true AMG C Class.  But it has probably the worst automatic of the bunch, dead reliable of course, but not really all that exciting.

[rrocket]

I think $73k is pretty decent value.  The problem I have is if the BMW 340M and Merc C43 are much sportier feeling and handling.  I'm okay with it being a little slower, but I want it to at least match those in handling and how it drives.  If this is just an IS350 with a V8 and no other upgrades it's a bit too much MEH for me.

Makes the Caddy Blackwings look so much more appealing.

For me, the V8 far and away trumps the small shortcomings

I get it and by no means is it as disappointing as the WRX, but just wish they had given it a little more than just a great engine.  At $73k, that's still a very decent value, but you really must love that V8 to pick this over the M340, C43, S4, and CT4-V Blackwing.

The V8 is what makes the car...and makes it way more attractive to me than the others in this class.

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[rrocket]

I think $73k is pretty decent value.  The problem I have is if the BMW 340M and Merc C43 are much sportier feeling and handling.  I'm okay with it being a little slower, but I want it to at least match those in handling and how it drives.  If this is just an IS350 with a V8 and no other upgrades it's a bit too much MEH for me.

Makes the Caddy Blackwings look so much more appealing.

For me, the V8 far and away trumps the small shortcomings

I get it and by no means is it as disappointing as the WRX, but just wish they had given it a little more than just a great engine.  At $73k, that's still a very decent value, but you really must love that V8 to pick this over the M340, C43, S4, and CT4-V Blackwing.

The V8 is what makes the car...and makes it way more attractive to me than the others in this class.

I agree, that V8 is probably just slightly behind the supercharged V8 in the CT5-V Blackwing, and just ahead of the turbo 4L V8 in the true AMG C Class.  But it has probably the worst automatic of the bunch, dead reliable of course, but not really all that exciting.

I didn't think there was anything wrong with it and everyone who drove it remarked how fast it shifted.

[rrocket]

In isolation.  But the ZF from competitors is much better

I agree.

But this is a good tranny. I really liked it.

[EV Dan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV0evFcA5uc

Alex on autos did a balanced review on it. I think the only negative he could find was absence of hydraulic power steering. I suppose trying to measure performance / luxury cars in terms of 0 to sixties and G forces is like trying to choose vintage wine based on alcohol content. There is a LOT more to them.

[quadzilla]

Alex on Autos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV0evFcA5uc

[rrocket]

What a dope...

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2021/10/on-decisions-consequences-and-being-that-guy/

[Triple Bob]

LOL

[TheHire]

I still don’t have a VIN despite a confirmed allocation.

[rrocket]

I still don’t have a VIN despite a confirmed allocation.

Tahara Line 3 was scheduled to be shut down until October 15th.

[rrocket]

That V8 in my Dad's LC500 is just divine.  So linear.  And the sound!

Yep.

One of the best V8s in the market.

[Fobroader]

Man I wish I could swing one of these. The more reviews I read/watch, this is the end of the line for cars with proper engines. Its all gonna be 4 cylinder garbage from now on that all sound like crap right till I'm forced to buy some electric golf cart.....sigh, I need a V8 sedan in my life.

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[TheHire]

this is the end of the line for cars with proper engines. Its all gonna be 4 cylinder garbage from now on that all sound like crap right till I'm forced to buy some electric golf cart.....sigh, I need a V8 sedan in my life.

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This is exactly why I went out and plopped down a deposit. The only new car that really "excites" me is the Taycan, and that saddens me.

[Jaeger]

Man I wish I could swing one of these. The more reviews I read/watch, this is the end of the line for cars with proper engines. Its all gonna be 4 cylinder garbage from now on that all sound like crap right till I'm forced to buy some electric golf cart.....sigh, I need a V8 sedan in my life.

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I approve of this message.

Ditto.

[ChaosphereIX]

 

Why I bought my XJR. Not going to get cars like that ever again.

[Ex-airbalancer]

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Why I bought my XJR. Not going to get cars like that ever again.
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I think the EVs in the future will spank XJR ass 

[ChaosphereIX]

[quote author =ChaosphereIX link=topic=107563.msg1587640#msg1587640 date=1635771325]
 

Why I bought my XJR. Not going to get cars like that ever again.

I think the EVs in the future will spank XJR ass 
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possibly, especially from a dig. No matching the instant torque and 1000hp in a big EB. But for driving enjoyment and aural sensation? Jaaaaaaaagggggggg all the way.