Topic: 2022 Lexus IS500 F Sport Performance

[JohnnyMac]

Very, very interesting

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/03/26/lexus-f-label-f-sport-performance-sub-brand-future/

Loved the part where they said because they do so well with their hybrids they can offer a big V8 without having CAFE be all pissy about emissions.

So if this is an "f sport" but they plan on a full ISF, man how crazy is that vehicle going to be?

Great story on how the IS500 was approved.

[rrocket]

Very, very interesting

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/03/26/lexus-f-label-f-sport-performance-sub-brand-future/

Loved the part where they said because they do so well with their hybrids they can offer a big V8 without having CAFE be all pissy about emissions.

So if this is an "f sport" but they plan on a full ISF, man how crazy is that vehicle going to be?

Great story on how the IS500 was approved.

They have a 600hp twin turbo 4.0L V8 coming.

I'm guessing they'll put it in as many cars as possible to amortize the cost.

[JohnnyMac]

Very, very interesting

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/03/26/lexus-f-label-f-sport-performance-sub-brand-future/

Loved the part where they said because they do so well with their hybrids they can offer a big V8 without having CAFE be all pissy about emissions.

So if this is an "f sport" but they plan on a full ISF, man how crazy is that vehicle going to be?

Great story on how the IS500 was approved.

They have a 600hp twin turbo 4.0L V8 coming.

I'm guessing they'll put it in as many cars as possible to amortize the cost.

So there will be an IS, RC, LS, and LC with that turbo V8, I wonder if they will consider putting it into any of their larger SUVs.  I actually think the better buy will be the regular IS500 with the NA engine, probably more reliable, less expensive, more usable power, and likely a less harsh ride than a full F model.

[quadzilla]

AoA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B9VLDXwY9Q

Has some video with the Lexus driver going around the track. Also great sound clip of the exhaust note at the end.

Redline Review - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgoht5YeMAI

Crappy update filled with 2 minutes about his hair at the beginning.

[dirtyjeffer]

Crappy update filled with 2 minutes about his hair at the beginning.

it's his sponsor (he needs to get paid).

[quadzilla]

Crappy update filled with 2 minutes about his hair at the beginning.

it's his sponsor (he needs to get paid).

Sure but filling almost 1/4 of your review with an ad sucks IMO. 

[ChaosphereIX]

Crappy update filled with 2 minutes about his hair at the beginning.

it's his sponsor (he needs to get paid).

Sure but filling almost 1/4 of your review with an ad sucks IMO.

That is how creators get paid. Youtube themselves pay not much at all for their ads. It is the business model.

[JohnnyMac]

My god that sounds good.  I know it’s not a 0-60 king or a track monster but it is a very balance of luxury and sportiness.

Love this guys positivity in hoping it’ll be closer to that $55k USD price instead of $65k USD.  I will be shocked if this is less than $75k but one can hope.

So for around the same price you will likely be able to get the BMW i4 50M, which is all electric, AWD, and gobs more power/torque.  It’ll likely be about a second faster to 60mph.  But there is just something about a NA V8 that gets me right in the feels.

[quadzilla]

Crappy update filled with 2 minutes about his hair at the beginning.

it's his sponsor (he needs to get paid).

Sure but filling almost 1/4 of your review with an ad sucks IMO.

That is how creators get paid. Youtube themselves pay not much at all for their ads. It is the business model.

I'm not confused on how people get paid. Just stating that filling an 8 minute car video with 2 minutes of hair product is shitty IMO. Others (that I watch) don't do it. Just say'n.

[PJungnitsch]

Crappy update filled with 2 minutes about his hair at the beginning.

it's his sponsor (he needs to get paid).

Gotsta Get Paid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaIZWjItReI

[dirtyjeffer]

Crappy update filled with 2 minutes about his hair at the beginning.

it's his sponsor (he needs to get paid).

Gotsta Get Paid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaIZWjItReI

lol...ah ZZ Top...the Official Band of Stripper Music.

[JohnnyMac]

So I know we are all waiting for the pricing to be announced for the IS500.  I see all these articles coming from the states that say the price should be low $60's there, which sounds really low, but then I look at how much the RCF is there and it starts at $65K.  Compare that to the Canadian pricing for the RCF and it's $85K.  Did the conversion and that $65K RCF in the US is only $80K CAD.  So now I'm wondering if this is a case that the US gets a better price, or maybe they have a lower trim level that we don't get here in Canada.

[evil_twin]

So I know we are all waiting for the pricing to be announced for the IS500.  I see all these articles coming from the states that say the price should be low $60's there, which sounds really low, but then I look at how much the RCF is there and it starts at $65K.  Compare that to the Canadian pricing for the RCF and it's $85K.  Did the conversion and that $65K RCF in the US is only $80K CAD.  So now I'm wondering if this is a case that the US gets a better price, or maybe they have a lower trim level that we don't get here in Canada.

Currencies fluctuate fast.   Just 1 year ago, the rate was 1.35 CAD to USD.   So that $65K USD would have been over $85K CAD.   That said, it shouldn't shock us if pricing is generally better in the US to reflect the superior scale of that market to carmakers.

I'd expect the IS500 will slightly undercut that RCF price but not by a whole lot.   Maybe just squeak under $80K MSRP?

[rrocket]

So I know we are all waiting for the pricing to be announced for the IS500.  I see all these articles coming from the states that say the price should be low $60's there, which sounds really low, but then I look at how much the RCF is there and it starts at $65K.  Compare that to the Canadian pricing for the RCF and it's $85K.  Did the conversion and that $65K RCF in the US is only $80K CAD.  So now I'm wondering if this is a case that the US gets a better price, or maybe they have a lower trim level that we don't get here in Canada.

Currencies fluctuate fast.   Just 1 year ago, the rate was 1.35 CAD to USD.   So that $65K USD would have been over $85K CAD.   That said, it shouldn't shock us if pricing is generally better in the US to reflect the superior scale of that market to carmakers.

I'd expect the IS500 will slightly undercut that RCF price but not by a whole lot.   Maybe just squeak under $80K MSRP?

I am more hopeful!!

They've been saying it will be cost competitive to a 3/4 Series BMW with M-Sport package....which would be around $65k CDN. 

[JohnnyMac]

So I know we are all waiting for the pricing to be announced for the IS500.  I see all these articles coming from the states that say the price should be low $60's there, which sounds really low, but then I look at how much the RCF is there and it starts at $65K.  Compare that to the Canadian pricing for the RCF and it's $85K.  Did the conversion and that $65K RCF in the US is only $80K CAD.  So now I'm wondering if this is a case that the US gets a better price, or maybe they have a lower trim level that we don't get here in Canada.

Currencies fluctuate fast.   Just 1 year ago, the rate was 1.35 CAD to USD.   So that $65K USD would have been over $85K CAD.   That said, it shouldn't shock us if pricing is generally better in the US to reflect the superior scale of that market to carmakers.

I'd expect the IS500 will slightly undercut that RCF price but not by a whole lot.   Maybe just squeak under $80K MSRP?

I am more hopeful!!

They've been saying it will be cost competitive to a 3/4 Series BMW with M-Sport package....which would be around $65k CDN.

If it can be competitive with the BMW M340 and the Merc C Class AMG light then top of the price range should be $75k.  But I’m hoping for closer to $70k. 

[rrocket]

So I know we are all waiting for the pricing to be announced for the IS500.  I see all these articles coming from the states that say the price should be low $60's there, which sounds really low, but then I look at how much the RCF is there and it starts at $65K.  Compare that to the Canadian pricing for the RCF and it's $85K.  Did the conversion and that $65K RCF in the US is only $80K CAD.  So now I'm wondering if this is a case that the US gets a better price, or maybe they have a lower trim level that we don't get here in Canada.

Currencies fluctuate fast.   Just 1 year ago, the rate was 1.35 CAD to USD.   So that $65K USD would have been over $85K CAD.   That said, it shouldn't shock us if pricing is generally better in the US to reflect the superior scale of that market to carmakers.

I'd expect the IS500 will slightly undercut that RCF price but not by a whole lot.   Maybe just squeak under $80K MSRP?

I am more hopeful!!

They've been saying it will be cost competitive to a 3/4 Series BMW with M-Sport package....which would be around $65k CDN.

If it can be competitive with the BMW M340 and the Merc C Class AMG light then top of the price range should be $75k.  But I’m hoping for closer to $70k.

$65-$70K....fingers crossed!!

This would be perfect as my 50th birthday car!

My IS-F was really, really, good. 

IS500 would be better for me.

[JohnnyMac]

So I know we are all waiting for the pricing to be announced for the IS500.  I see all these articles coming from the states that say the price should be low $60's there, which sounds really low, but then I look at how much the RCF is there and it starts at $65K.  Compare that to the Canadian pricing for the RCF and it's $85K.  Did the conversion and that $65K RCF in the US is only $80K CAD.  So now I'm wondering if this is a case that the US gets a better price, or maybe they have a lower trim level that we don't get here in Canada.

Currencies fluctuate fast.   Just 1 year ago, the rate was 1.35 CAD to USD.   So that $65K USD would have been over $85K CAD.   That said, it shouldn't shock us if pricing is generally better in the US to reflect the superior scale of that market to carmakers.

I'd expect the IS500 will slightly undercut that RCF price but not by a whole lot.   Maybe just squeak under $80K MSRP?

I am more hopeful!!

They've been saying it will be cost competitive to a 3/4 Series BMW with M-Sport package....which would be around $65k CDN.

If it can be competitive with the BMW M340 and the Merc C Class AMG light then top of the price range should be $75k.  But I’m hoping for closer to $70k.

$65-$70K....fingers crossed!!

This would be perfect as my 50th birthday car!

My IS-F was really, really, good. 

IS500 would be better for me.

Okay so the RC350 is just shy of $63k and the RCF is $85k, so if there was a RC500 FSport would be smack dab in the middle so $74k, but coupe versions are always more expensive than the sedan, so let’s say $72k.  At least that’s my logic, however flawed.

Oh and Ron it would make a splendid 50th birthday gift.  No one could call it a mid life crisis…until they hear that V8 and the squealing tires.

[rrocket]

^^Bear in mind the RC350 here is AWD.  Which was typically a $2K option or so.


The only thing I disliked about my IS-F was the suspension. 

I think if the new IS500 is too much....I'd consider another IS-F and put some Ohlins suspension on it.

Barring that?  GS-F all the way!!

[JohnnyMac]

^^Bear in mind the RC350 here is AWD.  Which was typically a $2K option or so.


The only thing I disliked about my IS-F was the suspension. 

I think if the new IS500 is too much....I'd consider another IS-F and put some Ohlins suspension on it.

Barring that?  GS-F all the way!!

Well the LC500 would have a comfier suspension I bet.

[rrocket]

Well the LC500 would have a comfier suspension I bet.

Well I want an LC500....but even used they're still $85k!!!   


(Or did you mean IS500)??