Topic: 2020 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid

[G.Bombay]

Last week I received a recall notice from Toyota canada for our 2020 Rav4h. It includes 2020 Camry, Camry h and 2019 -2020 Rav4 and Rav4 hybrid. Recall says they want to check the engine block casting number to see if it was manufactured incorrectly causing coolant to leak internally and or externally.
If the engine numbers are determined to be involved the dealer is to replace the engine 

Edit: I just read on Car and Driver that Toyota is recalling 44,000 vehicles and suspects 250 vehicles to have the manufacturing defect.

Interesting to note they mention the regular gas engine could stall at higher driving speeds without warning. But the hybrids will enter a fail safe driving mode allowing the driver to maneuver the vehicle to a safe location.

[dirtyjeffer]

Last week I received a recall notice from Toyota canada for our 2020 Rav4h. It includes 2020 Camry, Camry h and 2019 -2020 Rav4 and Rav4 hybrid. Recall says they want to check the engine block casting number to see if it was manufactured incorrectly causing coolant to leak internally and or externally.
If the engine numbers are determined to be involved the dealer is to replace the engine 

Interesting to note they mention the regular gas engine could stall at higher driving speeds without warning. But the hybrids will enter a fail safe driving mode allowing the driver to maneuver the vehicle to a safe location.

stuff like this happens sometimes, no company is perfect...they've found a problem and are issuing a recall to correct it...nothing wrong with that.

unless it's a Hyundai/Kia product of course...then it's a POS and people should never buy one.    

[Ex-airbalancer]

Last week I received a recall notice from Toyota canada for our 2020 Rav4h. It includes 2020 Camry, Camry h and 2019 -2020 Rav4 and Rav4 hybrid. Recall says they want to check the engine block casting number to see if it was manufactured incorrectly causing coolant to leak internally and or externally.
If the engine numbers are determined to be involved the dealer is to replace the engine 

Interesting to note they mention the regular gas engine could stall at higher driving speeds without warning. But the hybrids will enter a fail safe driving mode allowing the driver to maneuver the vehicle to a safe location.

stuff like this happens sometimes, no company is perfect...they've found a problem and are issuing a recall to correct it...nothing wrong with that.

unless it's a Hyundai/Kia product of course...then it's a POS and people should never buy one.    

It is about time ,you finally understood that   

[EV-Light]

Last week I received a recall notice from Toyota canada for our 2020 Rav4h. It includes 2020 Camry, Camry h and 2019 -2020 Rav4 and Rav4 hybrid. Recall says they want to check the engine block casting number to see if it was manufactured incorrectly causing coolant to leak internally and or externally.
If the engine numbers are determined to be involved the dealer is to replace the engine 

Interesting to note they mention the regular gas engine could stall at higher driving speeds without warning. But the hybrids will enter a fail safe driving mode allowing the driver to maneuver the vehicle to a safe location.

stuff like this happens sometimes, no company is perfect...they've found a problem and are issuing a recall to correct it...nothing wrong with that.

unless it's a Hyundai/Kia product of course...then it's a POS and people should never buy one.    

And unless it’s a Ford, FCA and GM, then for sure it’s a huge POS - at least according to the Toyo chills in this forum.


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[CSH]

Agree, although not perfect, by and large toyotas are super reliable (based on my experience with a 2007 camry).
I take the bmw for a quick spin in the neighbourhood and idle it for 10 mins once a week.
Yesterday several lights came on in the dash.. shuddering to think about the repair bill

That still could be from a weak battery....

Nah.. the brake and ABS light came on the first day social distancing was put in place and now the Traction control and engine light is on too...
That said the battery is almost 10 years old

Oil  $125
Winter Tire Swap $50
Brake fluid change $200
Rear pads and rotors $500
New battery soon $???
Change wiper blades $50
All the lights $???

not looking forward to the trip to the local indy

I dont know maybe sell it, put in 5K more and get something else..thinking..opinions?

[bye]

Curious OP if you considered a plug in vehicle (a bit more $ than hybrid, but totally different driving experience)
https://www.plugndrive.ca/electric-cars-available-in-canada/

CUV
https://www.plugndrive.ca/pnd_evcar_cat/kia-niro-phev/

Car
https://www.plugndrive.ca/pnd_evcar_cat/hyundai-ioniq-plus/

[EV Dan]

Agree, although not perfect, by and large toyotas are super reliable (based on my experience with a 2007 camry).
I take the bmw for a quick spin in the neighbourhood and idle it for 10 mins once a week.
Yesterday several lights came on in the dash.. shuddering to think about the repair bill

That still could be from a weak battery....

Nah.. the brake and ABS light came on the first day social distancing was put in place and now the Traction control and engine light is on too...
That said the battery is almost 10 years old

Oil  $125
Winter Tire Swap $50
Brake fluid change $200
Rear pads and rotors $500
New battery soon $???
Change wiper blades $50
All the lights $???

not looking forward to the trip to the local indy

I dont know maybe sell it, put in 5K more and get something else..thinking..opinions?

While I'm no expert the "Christmas tree" on the speedometer can be caused by a weak battery. I'd say replace it first (if only coz it's a 10 y.o. battery)  and see what happens. Unfortunately even for a thing so simple it's best to use a mechanic to 1) back up power during the swap and 2) register the new battery.

[rrocket]

While I'm no expert the "Christmas tree" on the speedometer can be caused by a weak battery.

I agree.  This seems particularly so on German cars, causing the car to do all kinds of weird stuff. 

[me_2]

Car
https://www.plugndrive.ca/pnd_evcar_cat/hyundai-ioniq-plus/

All Electric ?
https://www.plugndrive.ca/pnd_evcar_cat/hyundai-ioniq-electric/

-?- 2019 Hyundai Ioniq Electric Preferred MAGS CAM NAVI AC GROUPE ELECTRIQUE 11,068 km | Granby.QC Listed $25,671
https://www.autotrader.ca/a/hyundai/ioniq%20electric/granby/quebec/5_47727900_20161206152026375/?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&orup=2_18_18&pc=N1C%201A1&sprx=-1

[me_2]

While I'm no expert the "Christmas tree" on the speedometer can be caused by a weak battery.

I agree.  This seems particularly so on German cars, causing the car to do all kinds of weird stuff.

Yes they do, not only GC.

I guess the Rav4 battery draw would be fix with a future software update

[rrocket]

While I'm no expert the "Christmas tree" on the speedometer can be caused by a weak battery.

I agree.  This seems particularly so on German cars, causing the car to do all kinds of weird stuff.

Yes they do, not only GC.

I guess the Rav4 battery draw would be fix with a future software update

I've exited an EV without shutting the power button off before.

Wonder how often that happens?

[me_2]

While I'm no expert the "Christmas tree" on the speedometer can be caused by a weak battery.

I agree.  This seems particularly so on German cars, causing the car to do all kinds of weird stuff.

Yes they do, not only GC.

I guess the Rav4 battery draw would be fix with a future software update

I've exited an EV without shutting the power button off before.

Wonder how often that happens?

I don't know for Toyota but almost certain the Volt shut down itself after a certain perdiod (not sure how long, I have to look at..)

[rrocket]

While I'm no expert the "Christmas tree" on the speedometer can be caused by a weak battery.

I agree.  This seems particularly so on German cars, causing the car to do all kinds of weird stuff.

Yes they do, not only GC.

I guess the Rav4 battery draw would be fix with a future software update

I've exited an EV without shutting the power button off before.

Wonder how often that happens?

I don't know for Toyota but almost certain the Volt shut down itself after a certain perdiod (not sure how long, I have to look at..)

I also wonder how much draw some of these EVs would have that have remote functions controlled by phone.  Like over a period of X days (or weeks) being undriven if that would help kill battery?

[me_2]

While I'm no expert the "Christmas tree" on the speedometer can be caused by a weak battery.

I agree.  This seems particularly so on German cars, causing the car to do all kinds of weird stuff.

Yes they do, not only GC.

I guess the Rav4 battery draw would be fix with a future software update

I've exited an EV without shutting the power button off before.

Wonder how often that happens?

I don't know for Toyota but almost certain the Volt shut down itself after a certain perdiod (not sure how long, I have to look at..)

I also wonder how much draw some of these EVs would have that have remote functions controlled by phone.  Like over a period of X days (or weeks) being undriven if that would help kill battery?

Earlier Volt have been fixed to auto shutdown https://www.autonews.com/article/20150312/OEM11/150319938/gm-recalls-64-000-volts-over-carbon-monoxide-risk

About vampire losses, I mentioned into my first post IIRC, after 3 days sitting unplugged, energy conservation mesures activate to lower consumption, including less frequent cell activities. Not sure about the remote control...

[Guy]

Our gas powered Volvo’s go in sleep mode after a few days without use. Then you can’t communicate with the car with the app to remote start, lock-unlock car etc.

[PJungnitsch]

While I'm no expert the "Christmas tree" on the speedometer can be caused by a weak battery.

I agree.  This seems particularly so on German cars, causing the car to do all kinds of weird stuff.

Yes they do, not only GC.

I guess the Rav4 battery draw would be fix with a future software update

I've exited an EV without shutting the power button off before.

Wonder how often that happens?

I test drove a Zero electric motorcycle before and that 'engine on without running' is a bit of an issue when manhandling the bike around

[me_2]

Not Rav4 related but a method to try isolate any potential culprit from the fuse box....

found that on YT https://youtu.be/lRcj1fQcWwU
The BEST Way TO Perform a Parasitic Draw Test

[bye]

I also wonder how much draw some of these EVs would have that have remote functions controlled by phone.  Like over a period of X days (or weeks) being undriven if that would help kill battery?

My Smart ED has been parked for one month, no drain at all, but it doesn't have remote connectivity (aside from the OBDII Fleet Carma device).

Our Tesla uses >3 kWh per day, so about 25 days to fully empty if not plugged in.
I could disable the "always on" capability of the car to reduce dramatically the usage, but we like the convenience.
The car will auto shutdown before it goes too low, and then you'll need to open it up manually (without phone) and charge it.

I wrote about this just this week:
https://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php?topic=93661.msg1492960#msg1492960

[EV Dan]

Towing an overweight trailer with a Rav4 Hybrid while monitoring all vital parts' temperatures via OBD2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jljyV_5cxW0
- AoA

[rrocket]

New front bumper to make your Rav4 look like a Lambo Urus!