Topic: MDX Rubbers

[bridgecity]

Here’s what they look like after 40k. Almost to the wear bars






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[dirtyjeffer]

OEM tires are typically of lower grade than a replacement set directly from the the brand.

[ktm525]

In a tight economy those could have eked out another season. At least the outer tread. Looks like the tires wore more in the center. Air pressure a little high?

[tortoise]

Was thinking the same thing.

Particularly in a situation where we aren't driving as much

[bridgecity]

I can’t believe I’m being told on this forum that I could have ran these for another season. I thought I’d get chastised for running them to where I did  Theres 1/32nd to the wear bars. Wear is even but I can see how it doesn’t look so from the pics. They were hydroplaning last year when I wouldn’t expect it. They’re done.

[dirtyjeffer]

They were hydroplaning last year when I wouldn’t expect it. They’re done.

that's all you needed to know there...pics can be deceiving.

[2JDM]

OEM tires are typically of lower grade than a replacement set directly from the the brand.

This. I've never been happy with a set of OEM tires.

[bridgecity]

OEM tires are typically of lower grade than a replacement set directly from the the brand.

This. I've never been happy with a set of OEM tires.

Are you saying that OEM of the same make/model are of lower grade than than purchased replacements?  As in Michelin makes a good Latitude Tour HP and a les good one?

I’d generally agree that OEM tires aren’t the best options out there; ie. They are generally a cheaper tire. In this case I don’t feel that way about the Latitude Tour HP. They weren’t a cheap tire and they performed well with exception to the mileage. Not sure what they are rated for.

[2JDM]

OEM tires are typically of lower grade than a replacement set directly from the the brand.

This. I've never been happy with a set of OEM tires.

Are you saying that OEM of the same make/model are of lower grade than than purchased replacements?  As in Michelin makes a good Latitude Tour HP and a les good one?

I’d generally agree that OEM tires aren’t the best options out there; ie. They are generally a cheaper tire. In this case I don’t feel that way about the Latitude Tour HP. They weren’t a cheap tire and they performed well with exception to the mileage. Not sure what they are rated for.

My mistake. I mean't that I've never had a good set of OEM tires in general. I assume the replacement of the same tire would have similar results.

I believe the Latitude Tour HP is the standard tire on my parents 2014 RDX. They seem ok except they're quite noisy now. Not sure if they're original or not, because it has about 95k on it.

[quadzilla]

I thought OEM tires were shaved (?) to produce better f/e results thus have less treadware.

[dirtyjeffer]

I thought OEM tires were shaved (?) to produce better f/e results thus have less treadware.

^^

this...in some (many?) cases, the OEM version of the tire that comes with the vehicle may be of lesser "quality" than the same tire you purchase afterwards from your tire retailer.

see the first bit here for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv97i_-V7hA

[tortoise]

Capiracer has stated several times that OEM rubber is different than aftermarket, even for the same make and model.

The manufacturers are more worried about fuel efficiency and cost than durability.

[ktm525]

I can’t believe I’m being told on this forum that I could have ran these for another season. I thought I’d get chastised for running them to where I did  Theres 1/32nd to the wear bars. Wear is even but I can see how it doesn’t look so from the pics. They were hydroplaning last year when I wouldn’t expect it. They’re done.

That was in good times. We need to readjust our thinking to the new Depression. My Grandfather would have got 3 more seasons out of those 

[bridgecity]

I can’t believe I’m being told on this forum that I could have ran these for another season. I thought I’d get chastised for running them to where I did  Theres 1/32nd to the wear bars. Wear is even but I can see how it doesn’t look so from the pics. They were hydroplaning last year when I wouldn’t expect it. They’re done.

That was in good times. We need to readjust our thinking to the new Depression. My Grandfather would have got 3 more seasons out of those 

 

[blur911]

Capiracer has stated several times that OEM rubber is different than aftermarket, even for the same make and model.

The manufacturers are more worried about fuel efficiency and cost than durability.

OE tires are not always "worse" than replacement.   Yeah, the priorities on most cars is fuel efficiency, but OE tires are also held to tighter tolerances, such as conicity and balance.
Problems occur when auto manufacturers want really fuel efficient tires at the expense of everything else.  I believe some Volt tires had this problem, they were developed for a lighter car, but GM wanted them on the Volt.
OE high performance tires are another matter, they are not usually compromised from what I see.

[dirtyjeffer]

Capiracer has stated several times that OEM rubber is different than aftermarket, even for the same make and model.

The manufacturers are more worried about fuel efficiency and cost than durability.

OE tires are not always "worse" than replacement.   Yeah, the priorities on most cars is fuel efficiency, but OE tires are also held to tighter tolerances, such as conicity and balance.
Problems occur when auto manufacturers want really fuel efficient tires at the expense of everything else.  I believe some Volt tires had this problem, they were developed for a lighter car, but GM wanted them on the Volt.
OE high performance tires are another matter, they are not usually compromised from what I see.

yea, it's more of a "may be" issue than a guarantee...of course, the cost of the vehicle is also a factor here...OE tires for a $15k car be of lesser quality...OE tires on a $60k Lexus are likely regular versions.

[tortoise]

Thanks for adding that info.

[blur911]

Capiracer has stated several times that OEM rubber is different than aftermarket, even for the same make and model.

The manufacturers are more worried about fuel efficiency and cost than durability.

OE tires are not always "worse" than replacement.   Yeah, the priorities on most cars is fuel efficiency, but OE tires are also held to tighter tolerances, such as conicity and balance.
Problems occur when auto manufacturers want really fuel efficient tires at the expense of everything else.  I believe some Volt tires had this problem, they were developed for a lighter car, but GM wanted them on the Volt.
OE high performance tires are another matter, they are not usually compromised from what I see.

yea, it's more of a "may be" issue than a guarantee...of course, the cost of the vehicle is also a factor here...OE tires for a $15k car be of lesser quality...OE tires on a $60k Lexus are likely regular versions.

Exactly, higher end cars come with higher end tires.

[Angry Chicken]

FWIW, I had a horrible time trying to get all-season tires other than Michelin balanced on an MDX. The problem resolved when I went back to Michelin.

I've always found that Michelin's balance great & run true... none of this out of round BS that I've encountered with other tires over the years.

Agree absolutely.

[bridgecity]

I've had these on for a couple weeks now (maybe three, time means nothing ).  Nothing remarkable to note.  I've tested them up to 160 and they run smooth.  Not sure if they're any more quiet that the Michelin's that I had for summer's before.  Hard to note any impressions over the Michelin's as I went from winter's to these.  They seem grippy with a decently sharp turn in (considering what I'm driving here), performed well in the wet after a recent snow storm.  I don't know, like I said, hard to compare when the MDX just came off winters.  Any comments I have are basically useless. 

Oh, did notice that they were manufactured in Brazil on the fourth week of 2020.  Take that BWII.

Edit: Found a pic I took with them on dated April 26. They look like tires.