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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1100 on: September 25, 2021, 10:02:33 pm »
But here is the thing. When you’re just cruising and tooling about, it quickly, and I mean quickly shifts to 7. Before you even realize it.

Only if there was a way to stop that from happening and take full control of the PDK.  :think: :P

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1101 on: September 25, 2021, 10:07:21 pm »
But here is the thing. When you’re just cruising and tooling about, it quickly, and I mean quickly shifts to 7. Before you even realize it.

Only if there was a way to stop that from happening and take full control of the PDK.  :think: :P

Not the same, at least for me.

Yes, you can take control. But you actually have to do something, with a manual you have no choice. I don’t know, it’s probably just me and driving a manual for the past several years.
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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1102 on: September 25, 2021, 10:23:50 pm »
But here is the thing. When you’re just cruising and tooling about, it quickly, and I mean quickly shifts to 7. Before you even realize it.

Only if there was a way to stop that from happening and take full control of the PDK.  :think: :P

Not the same, at least for me.

Yes, you can take control. But you actually have to do something, with a manual you have no choice. I don’t know, it’s probably just me and driving a manual for the past several years.

I totally get it.

After 13 years I still use the manual mode with my DSG as I also hate the quick upshifts when I don't want them.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1103 on: September 25, 2021, 10:33:24 pm »
I think we maybe leaving the bar and heading to my place...just placed a deposit with Pfaff

So, Cayman GTS 4.0?

Wow, fantastic choice! And do the Euro delivery! I can’t imagine how awesome that would be.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1104 on: September 26, 2021, 05:33:44 am »
A bit late to this discussion.   Never going to own a Porsche.
   I would take the Cayman, too hot in summer for me in an open car.  I like 4 cyl engines.   I am sure one of the standard colours  would do fine. PDK for me  nowadays.    Some years ago I trolled through the build and price and  I wouldn't try that again!
Back in the day we would have certainly done the Euro delivery  but there was always a reason why not.  Now I wouldn't do it on my own.
I quite agree about trying to keep the price under $100,000.  Mrs Tpl and I had a rule about no cars costing more than out first house, we modified that to allow for tradeins but still have not exceeded that rule.
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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1105 on: September 26, 2021, 07:43:33 am »
I think we maybe leaving the bar and heading to my place...just placed a deposit with Pfaff

So, Cayman GTS 4.0?

Wow, fantastic choice! And do the Euro delivery! I can’t imagine how awesome that would be.

Yes, GTS Cayman. Right now its just a deposit to get in line for an allocation, which who knows when will come, but I have time and patience. Just need to scrap together some more $$

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1106 on: September 26, 2021, 11:31:17 am »
I think we maybe leaving the bar and heading to my place...just placed a deposit with Pfaff

So, Cayman GTS 4.0?

Wow, fantastic choice! And do the Euro delivery! I can’t imagine how awesome that would be.

Yes, GTS Cayman. Right now its just a deposit to get in line for an allocation, which who knows when will come, but I have time and patience. Just need to scrap together some more $$
How much did they need for a deposit?  The Lotus dealer stated I will need to put $2,500 deposit to get a place in line.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1107 on: September 26, 2021, 12:08:24 pm »
I think we maybe leaving the bar and heading to my place...just placed a deposit with Pfaff

So, Cayman GTS 4.0?

Wow, fantastic choice! And do the Euro delivery! I can’t imagine how awesome that would be.

Yes, GTS Cayman. Right now its just a deposit to get in line for an allocation, which who knows when will come, but I have time and patience. Just need to scrap together some more $$
How much did they need for a deposit?  The Lotus dealer stated I will need to put $2,500 deposit to get a place in line.

Same, $2,500

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1108 on: September 26, 2021, 10:09:33 pm »
I leave this thread for a few days and I come back to this.

HS - really happy you're doing this... after all we talked about the last time we met up, I'm glad! And yes, do Euro Delivery. I did the BMW Euro delivery program and it really was the trip of a lifetime. I can't recommend it enough.

We were going to do it for Mrs. Hire's Volvo but unfortunately Volvo has cancelled their program.  :'(
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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1109 on: September 27, 2021, 07:57:12 am »
Here's my rationale for putting down a $2,500 fully refundable deposit for a place in line for a build slot that who knows when will come:

- $100,000 was always at the top end of my Porsche budget
- If I take the above and look at new, Cayman GTS 4.0 makes the cut, just
- Cayman GTS 4.0 checks most if not all of my Porsche wish list: Flat six, manual, unique model, sports car, new, reliable, warranty
- As such, this was always my high end bookend when looking at used Porsches
- Everytime I looked at say a 2010 997.2 priced at $75,000, I always remind myself that for another $25,000 I get a new car
- At the lower end, like 996 and such, I have to be honest with myself, I don't really have the time to tinker or keep a semi project car, I just don't, as much as I'd love to
- Used Porsche prices are crazy, as you know, the may or may not come down, but new car prices are stable, you know how much you're paying, you just need to wait and wait and I'm ok with that
- Lastly, the deposit basically gives me an option that sometime down the road hopefully I'll have a chance to purchase a dream car, knowing I'm not getting hosed due to used car pandemic pricing
- In the meantime, I can continue to look :)

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1110 on: September 27, 2021, 08:10:36 am »
Good logic overall, but I will have to challenge you on the used 997.2 part because that $75k used 911 was probably $125k when new, or more depending on the options... so it's not quite apples to apples when compared to a new Cayman [emoji848]

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1111 on: September 27, 2021, 08:40:42 am »
I'd love to hear how much an extended warranty would cost for such a vehicle. 

I think your rational makes perfect sense.  I'd say you'll be looking at a minimum of 1.5 years before it'll possibly show up, so loads of time to build up that nest egg.  If you are getting a dream car I think it is definitely worth it and you'll likely drive this for a LOOONG time, plus with these going electric in the near future it'll likely keeps it's resale value high, if and when you grow tired of it, or heaven forbid you are forced to let it go.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1112 on: September 27, 2021, 08:41:30 am »
Good logic overall, but I will have to challenge you on the used 997.2 part because that $75k used 911 was probably $125k when new, or more depending on the options... so it's not quite apples to apples when compared to a new Cayman

I don't think the new price of the 997 is relevant. He's not saying that he can buy the equivalent new car for $25k more, he's saying that he can buy a new car that matches his criteria for $25k more.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1113 on: September 27, 2021, 08:42:21 am »
I'd love to hear how much an extended warranty would cost for such a vehicle.

Extended warranty pricing is on the Porsche configurator. I think it's about $5k to extend the warranty by three years.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1114 on: September 27, 2021, 08:47:34 am »
I'd love to hear how much an extended warranty would cost for such a vehicle.

Extended warranty pricing is on the Porsche configurator. I think it's about $5k to extend the warranty by three years.
Oh it is?  I guess I never noticed before.  $5K for 3 additional years seems about right on a $100K vehicle, especially one that is German.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1115 on: September 27, 2021, 08:53:03 am »
Here's my rationale for putting down a $2,500 fully refundable deposit for a place in line for a build slot that who knows when will come:

- $100,000 was always at the top end of my Porsche budget
- If I take the above and look at new, Cayman GTS 4.0 makes the cut, just
- Cayman GTS 4.0 checks most if not all of my Porsche wish list: Flat six, manual, unique model, sports car, new, reliable, warranty
- As such, this was always my high end bookend when looking at used Porsches
- Everytime I looked at say a 2010 997.2 priced at $75,000, I always remind myself that for another $25,000 I get a new car
- At the lower end, like 996 and such, I have to be honest with myself, I don't really have the time to tinker or keep a semi project car, I just don't, as much as I'd love to
- Used Porsche prices are crazy, as you know, the may or may not come down, but new car prices are stable, you know how much you're paying, you just need to wait and wait and I'm ok with that
- Lastly, the deposit basically gives me an option that sometime down the road hopefully I'll have a chance to purchase a dream car, knowing I'm not getting hosed due to used car pandemic pricing
- In the meantime, I can continue to look :)

All makes sense to me.


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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1116 on: September 27, 2021, 08:54:57 am »
Good logic overall, but I will have to challenge you on the used 997.2 part because that $75k used 911 was probably $125k when new, or more depending on the options... so it's not quite apples to apples when compared to a new Cayman

I don't think the new price of the 997 is relevant. He's not saying that he can buy the equivalent new car for $25k more, he's saying that he can buy a new car that matches his criteria for $25k more.

Yes, that's exactly it. I'm simply comparing what's out there now, how much it costs, vs. the new GTS Cayman. But that's just my personal comparison.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1117 on: September 27, 2021, 09:55:28 am »
Good logic overall, but I will have to challenge you on the used 997.2 part because that $75k used 911 was probably $125k when new, or more depending on the options... so it's not quite apples to apples when compared to a new Cayman

I don't think the new price of the 997 is relevant. He's not saying that he can buy the equivalent new car for $25k more, he's saying that he can buy a new car that matches his criteria for $25k more.

Yes, that's exactly it. I'm simply comparing what's out there now, how much it costs, vs. the new GTS Cayman. But that's just my personal comparison.

Exact same approach I would take and same outcome as well.  It may be different if balancing between an older 911 and a new regular Cayman or S, but the 4.0/GT4 are special, unique, elite, top of their game (or whatever you want to call it) for the model, so that being new versus a 10+ older mid range 911 makes it an easy win to me.

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1118 on: September 30, 2021, 12:43:04 pm »
Good logic overall, but I will have to challenge you on the used 997.2 part because that $75k used 911 was probably $125k when new, or more depending on the options... so it's not quite apples to apples when compared to a new Cayman

I don't think the new price of the 997 is relevant. He's not saying that he can buy the equivalent new car for $25k more, he's saying that he can buy a new car that matches his criteria for $25k more.

Yes, that's exactly it. I'm simply comparing what's out there now, how much it costs, vs. the new GTS Cayman. But that's just my personal comparison.

Whoa!  Outstanding!  The Cayman 4.0 is more fun to drive than the 911 anyway.  You've chosen brilliantly.  Absolute dream car for me. 

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Re: Porsche buying thread
« Reply #1119 on: September 30, 2021, 10:55:13 pm »
Here's my rationale for putting down a $2,500 fully refundable deposit for a place in line for a build slot that who knows when will come:

- At the lower end, like 996 and such, I have to be honest with myself, I don't really have the time to tinker or keep a semi project car, I just don't, as much as I'd love to

What, you don't want to keep writing me monthly cheques?!  :'( :'( :'(  :rofl2: