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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #120 on: June 17, 2022, 07:46:00 am »
That sounds pretty perfect.  The only company that might offer a bit better might be the Genesis brand, who come to you, give you a loaner, and then returns your vehicle when it's ready.  But what you described sounds decent.  The only thing that might rub some people the wrong way is if you spent say $150K on an S performance model and as described the service center isn't exactly a luxury location.  But that is totally a personal thing.  I know I don't require a crazy nice waiting room with expresso machines and what not.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #121 on: June 17, 2022, 08:22:41 am »
Agreed, seems pretty painless to have your service done.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #122 on: June 17, 2022, 06:46:30 pm »
I asked a local guy how his Tesla was serviced locally and he said it wasn't...LOL

I forgot to ask how far he had to go.


Would they come to you or truck the vehicle away?
How fast is my 911?  Supras sh*t on on me all the time...in reverse..with blown turbos  :( ...

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #124 on: June 20, 2022, 01:02:05 pm »
I asked a local guy how his Tesla was serviced locally and he said it wasn't...LOL

I forgot to ask how far he had to go.


Would they come to you or truck the vehicle away?

No clue, will ask them next time I need service.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #125 on: September 02, 2022, 10:13:19 am »
Earlier in the week our Model 3 passed its 3-year mark.   We have driven the Model 3 for almost 76,000 kms. The car has seen 3 winters and 2 summers.

Here is a quick summary of the issues and costs:

Issues:
1) Broken Sun visor clip
2) Intermittent SRS Error
3) Creaking noise coming from the front left ball joint/control arm.

All issues were fixed for 0$ under warranty.

Expenses:
1) Winter tires + Allor rims: Don't remember exactly but ~$3,000
2) Floor mats $200
3) Upgraded puddle lights and screen protector: $125
4) Winter tire/AS tire swaps and initial install plus additional TPS sensors: $700
5) Fuel Cost:  The car used 11,602KwH to cover 75,623KM at an average of 153Wh/KM.  Taking the off peak rate of 8.2c per kwh and adding 20% for taxes, wall losses (not all energy supplied from wall is converted to charge KWH), the total Fuel cost over 3 years is ~ $1142

Some statistics and observations:

1) Per km fuel cost is 1142/75623 or 1.5c a km
2) Overall per km running cost is 5167/75623 or 6.8c a km.

I mention these stats as a lot of people in the GTA do not put Winter tires on so for some these expenses are optional. Also my commute is ~140km roundtrip out of which ~130km is opposite rush hour on the 400 series highway where the observed speed of vehicles is 120Kmph plus.  So my commute is really bad for EV's (unlike ICE's that get the best fuel economy on the highway).  Others that have a more balanced or slower commute are probably averaging better Wh/KM than me.

Also, I have made 1 trip from GTA to Boston, 1 to Ottawa, and 1 to Windsor in 2022 alone. I used superchargers on the way. Although they take more time than ICE to refuel and are a pain, I can live with it.

I don't miss calling the dealer, making an appt for oil change, waiting and then driving the car home. Everyone's time has value lol.
I don't miss waiting for the car to warm up in Winter
I will not miss replacing the brakes when the car will hit around 120K (which is the norm for ICE cars)
I love the enhanced Auto Pilot (not FSD). Works amazingly well on the highways makes highway driving so much less tiring
I love the fact that i can set the car in dog mode and leave echo in the car when i am going to walmart etc and know he is not  going to burn or freeze
When i  move to Canada, CIVIC's were everywhere (2005-2010)
Then BMW's became the new CIVIC's (2015-2021), they were everywhere, there were more 3 series in our neck of the woods than the Civic's
Now White Telsa's have replaced the BMW's (probably 60% Model Y and 40% Model 3). It is shocking for me as the Model Y is expensive and at least out of my pay bracket.
Again based on observation of friends that have moved to EV's BMW and Toyota/Lexus are going to take the biggest hits in the next 5 years unless they come up with a compelling EV option. Even Toyota knows that the bZ4X is a half baked product

Some comparison of costs (since I like math so much lol) which are specific to our family situation

A car with similar specs (size, features and power) and maintenance cost (So far and not long term) would be the IS350. Although I was cross-shopping it with the RX350 which is a completely different story... LOL
The IS350 is more HP, is AWD but the 0 to 6 times are slower and the price excluding taxes was ~4,000 higher.

Not knowing exactly what the oil change cost is for the Lexus I am approximating it to ~ $875 for 7 oil changes and maybe $125 in additional service costs. The car is rated at 12.3/9.1. At 10.7l/100 kms the fuel consumption would be 8091 liters. If I take the rate of $1.8 for premium(again an approximation as prices have varied over the last 3 years) I am looking at a fuel cost of ~$14,564+1000 (maintenance)=15,564.

I can probably buy Winter tires and other accessories for the IS350 too. Over a period of 3 years my non-optional costs, the total cost difference for me is 15564-1142=$14422. Add in the initial cost difference we are looking at $18,422

Since a lot of us live in the EMI world the cost saving over the first 3-year period would be: $18,422/36= ~$511 a month
Also, the cost saving from year 3 to 6 would be: $14,422/36: ~$400 a month
This is essentially the same EMI as a fully loaded Corolla.

Assuming that I will sell the car after 6 years and my driving pattern will not change and there will not be any major reliability issues (the battery and motor will still be under warranty at that age and mileage), Over a 6-year period, the approximate saving is $32,844.

Overall I am very happy with the Model 3 and EVs in general.
I have the Cybertruck, Silverado EV and the Lyriq on a reservation and would for sure put down a deposit for the ID Buzz when it opens up in Canada. One of these will probably be our second vehicle. It is looking more and more like its not going to be a Tesla as they re-negged on the original price of the Cybertruck and i would not be able to afford it if it gets too expensive. There have been insane increase in prices of all their models in the last year. The Lyriq is making the most sense at the moment. I grew up around the retro version of the Id Buzz so that would be amazing to get if its within budget.
Driving an EV for 3 years has made me conclude that I am NEVER (although they say never say never LOL) buying a new ICE ever.







 







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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #126 on: September 02, 2022, 10:23:03 am »
Great report CSH, glad you enjoy your Model 3,  thanks.

One thing for sure I am not ever going back to ICE either.  ;)

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #127 on: September 02, 2022, 10:45:04 am »
Great report and you're in the ideal use scenario for a long-range EV. I'm at the polar opposite, 50 km round trip commute 2 days/wk and loaners one out of two weeks. I wanted an EV, but nothing made sense from a budget point of view. Without "the Hobby" and wfh, I would have went ahead with a Polestar 2. But with only 100 km of cummuting per week, even without the hobby going back to gas - with a reliable mass-market car - made more sense. Transportation picks aren't universal, and having choices is good!
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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #128 on: September 02, 2022, 10:49:33 am »
Yes, I agree.
Although no amount of commute will ever justify a Model Y which costs $85K plus taxes. I only talk about the Y and not the S or the X as the Y's are EVERYWHERE
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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #129 on: September 02, 2022, 10:51:52 am »
BTW, I too have a reservation on a Lyriq, and I'm considering putting one on a Polestar 2, but I find it on the small side for my need. When I bought last year, there was a $8K subsidy on the Mach-E and none on the Polestar. Now there's none on the Ford, but $12K subsidy on the P2.

Go figure..

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #130 on: September 02, 2022, 10:56:13 am »
BTW, I too have a reservation on a Lyriq, and I'm considering putting one on a Polestar 2, but I find it on the small side for my need. When I bought last year, there was a $8K subsidy on the Mach-E and none on the Polestar. Now there's none on the Ford, but $12K subsidy on the P2.

Go figure..

And the P2 went up $6k for 2023 (last April) with only a new wheel design and ugly std paint to show for it  :P But I still have a huge crush on that car after driving a Single Motor for a week  :love:

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #131 on: September 02, 2022, 10:58:05 am »
Yes, I agree.
Although no amount of commute will ever justify a Model Y which costs $85K plus taxes. I only talk about the Y and not the S or the X as the Y's are EVERYWHERE

Same here. My 'burb has the highest per capita luxury car registrations in Canada, and these days all the bimmers are being replaced by Teslas.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #132 on: September 02, 2022, 11:00:44 am »
I will check out the Polestar
Somehow i don't find  Hyundai/Kia offerings attractive. Polestar I've never checked out.
One thing for sure is that it has to be a CUV  or something that rides high (wife's preference)
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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #133 on: September 02, 2022, 11:03:02 am »
Yes, I agree.
Although no amount of commute will ever justify a Model Y which costs $85K plus taxes. I only talk about the Y and not the S or the X as the Y's are EVERYWHERE

Same here. My 'burb has the highest per capita luxury car registrations in Canada, and these days all the bimmers are being replaced by Teslas.

Ours definitely does NOT have the highest per capita luxury car registrations in Canada. It may have the highest amount of Amazon workers lol...Yet the Y's are everywhere.. BMW/Lexus have to step up and step up soon.. brand loyalty is usually very high among ppl i know that have switched to EV's.
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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #134 on: September 02, 2022, 11:08:15 am »
Nice writeup

We were keen on getting something electric or plug in hybrid but nothing was available, and/or reasonably priced. The NX450h+ came closest, but we already have a 'nice' car and the Crosstrek was half the price (plus actually available)

Certainly going to keep our eyes open and likely trade in either the RX or the Crosstrek for one at some point

That being said, one issue is we filled the last two open spots on our fuse panel when we put in A/C to the house. Might get pricey if we have to upgrade the panel for a pure electric

How pricey was your charging system? Was there any wiring issues?

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #135 on: September 02, 2022, 11:10:33 am »
Yes, Panel upgrades can get pricey. A buddy had to pay 4K to go from 100A to 200A as the Utility wiring coming into the house also needed some work.  Some people do sub-panels to save money but I am no electrician so I dont know how they work
i did not buy or install the Tesla home charger. Since the Model 3 SR+ cannot accept more than 32A of AC, I just use the mobile connector. I paid ~800 in 2019 to run one NEMA 14-50 outlet into the garage where the mobile connector plugs in.

We have a 100A panel, we may have to upgrade to 200A when the second EV arrives. Tesla has some configuration where two or more wall chargers can talk to each other and you can program them to have only one charger be active and charge a vehicle at any given time. That way the second charger only activates when the first one is done.  Charging typically takes 4 hrs or less and there is plenty of time to charge 2 or even 3 vehicles at off-peak rates (7pm to 7am)

OFC all this is TBD and one would need to run wiring to the garage anyway
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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #136 on: September 02, 2022, 11:30:06 am »
I will check out the Polestar
Somehow i don't find  Hyundai/Kia offerings attractive. Polestar I've never checked out.
One thing for sure is that it has to be a CUV  or something that rides high (wife's preference)

Part of the attraction - the 2 has a car body sitting on an XC40 SUV platform. It's basically the Crosstrek of EV's. Wife liked the height but the car not so much - she hates center consoles and the 2 has a huge one. This Chinese-made EV had the best build quality of any EV's I've driven - no creaks at all, super silent on surface streets. Edit: wife loved the Ioniq5, but some excessive styling bits here and there got old after a few days. Basic shape and volume are spot-on though. EV6 lacks headroom.
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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #137 on: September 02, 2022, 11:34:43 am »
Yes, Panel upgrades can get pricey. A buddy had to pay 4K to go from 100A to 200A as the Utility wiring coming into the house also needed some work.  Some people do sub-panels to save money but I am no electrician so I dont know how they work
i did not buy or install the Tesla home charger. Since the Model 3 SR+ cannot accept more than 32A of AC, I just use the mobile connector. I paid ~800 in 2019 to run one NEMA 14-50 outlet into the garage where the mobile connector plugs in.

We have a 100A panel, we may have to upgrade to 200A when the second EV arrives. Tesla has some configuration where two or more wall chargers can talk to each other and you can program them to have only one charger be active and charge a vehicle at any given time. That way the second charger only activates when the first one is done.  Charging typically takes 4 hrs or less and there is plenty of time to charge 2 or even 3 vehicles at off-peak rates (7pm to 7am)

OFC all this is TBD and one would need to run wiring to the garage anyway

Any charger can share a circuit with another unit with an electrician-installed "smart" device that won't allow both chargers to pull juice at once. When we get a PHEV to replace the van, I'm adding a second charger (inside the garage this time) and that device.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #138 on: February 23, 2023, 09:35:48 am »
So the first out-of-warranty repair happened yesterday. Heating in the car stopped working. Apparently, the PTC heater stopped working. The total cost at indy was 1100 incl taxes. Tesla quoted 1500. Part from TESLA is 750 (which I got). Can get the part for 600 too but it is not Tesla.

My biggest out-of-pocket expense for any repair for any of my cars so far.

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Re: Tesla Model 3 SR+ RWD reviews etc
« Reply #139 on: February 23, 2023, 09:56:23 am »
So the first out-of-warranty repair happened yesterday. Heating in the car stopped working. Apparently, the PTC heater stopped working. The total cost at indy was 1100 incl taxes. Tesla quoted 1500. Part from TESLA is 750 (which I got). Can get the part for 600 too but it is not Tesla.

My biggest out-of-pocket expense for any repair for any of my cars so far.

A $1,500 repair to restore heat in a 4 y.o. car? That makes my ex-Audi look good  ;D