Author Topic: 37 new cars to avoid according to forbes (Read 22769 times)

Ontariodriver · « **on:** July 31, 2019, 03:02:18 pm »

https://www3.forbes.com/business/37-new-cars-to-avoid/?utm_campaign=37-New-Cars-To-Avoid&utm_source=msn&utm_medium=ms123735d1ca&lcid=ms123735d1ca

How did they come up with this list, can't be based on reliability...list make no sense sometimes. Scion? Acura?

01. Acura ILX
02. Dodge Grand Caravan
03. Fiat 500
04. Ford Taurus
05. Jeep Wrangler JK
06. Maserati Ghibli
07. Smart ForTwo
08. Scion iQ
09. Nissan Armada
10. Mitsubishi
11. Lincoln MKT
12. Lincoln MKS
13. Jeep Wrangler/Wrangler Unlimited
14. Cadillac XTS
15. BMW 7 Series
16. Nissan Pathfinder
17. Jeep Patriot
18. Jeep Compass
19. Jeep Cherokee
20. Infinity Q50
21. Dodge Dart
22. Ford Focus
23. Ford Fiesta
24. Chevrolet Suburban
25. Chrysler 200
26. Cadillac ATS
27. Acura RLX
28. Alfa Romeo Giulia
29. Dodge Journey
30. Fiat 500L
31. Fiat 500X
32. Jeep Renegade
33. Land Rover Discovery Sport
34. Mitsubishi Mirage
35. Nissan Titan XD
36. Smart EQ ForTwo
37. Subaru WRX

Arthur Dent · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2019, 03:24:31 pm »

Quote from: Ontariodriver on July 31, 2019, 03:02:18 pm

10. Mitsubishi

Everything else is a specific model - except this. The whole line up I guess.

tpl · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2019, 03:34:30 pm »

None of those cars had ever been on my list of cars to look at.

I am surprised that the Suburban is on this list and its stablemates. Yukon XL and so on are not. I would have thought that those decade old body on frame trucks with their even older V8s and slushbox transmissions would have been good reliable buys.

Maybe too much 'stuff' has been added over the years.

PJungnitsch · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2019, 03:55:07 pm »

Ouch:

28. Alfa Romeo Giulia
We loved driving the energetic Alfa Romeo Giulia when we had a chance to test it, as it’s a terrific performer. But it’s lacking in terms of comfort and cabin ergonomics. Worse, it gets a dismal reliability rating from Consumer Reports. Some auto reviewers reported encountering mechanical issues during their evaluations. In fact, we know someone who was considering buying a Giulia and had not one, but two models off the dealer’s lot break down during a test drive. The Audi A4, Acura TSX, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class models are less dicey alternatives

ktm525 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2019, 04:05:07 pm »

Does Toyota own Forbes?

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2019, 04:10:24 pm »

Quote from: ktm525 on July 31, 2019, 04:05:07 pm

Does Toyota own Forbes?

No, they just build really good vehicles.

dkaz · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2019, 04:24:15 pm »

Scion is Toyota, although the iQ is discontinued.

A lot of the vehicles on the list are old in terms of model years running, unreliable, or discontinued. The WRX is an odd addition to the list.

Guy · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2019, 07:03:49 pm »

So it is safe to buy the Jaguar I Pace, maybe I should reconsider...

revalations · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2019, 07:09:44 pm »

Old list? Several of these vehicles are not even in production anymore.....

tenpenny · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2019, 07:13:52 pm »

Forbes is a highly respected automotive magazine.

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Jaeger · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2019, 08:39:51 pm »

Quote from: PJungnitsch on July 31, 2019, 03:55:07 pm

Ouch:

28. Alfa Romeo Giulia
We loved driving the energetic Alfa Romeo Giulia when we had a chance to test it, as it’s a terrific performer. But it’s lacking in terms of comfort and cabin ergonomics. Worse, it gets a dismal reliability rating from Consumer Reports. Some auto reviewers reported encountering mechanical issues during their evaluations. In fact, we know someone who was considering buying a Giulia and had not one, but two models off the dealer’s lot break down during a test drive. The Audi A4, Acura TSX, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class models are less dicey alternatives

Lol! I mean hands-up everyone who is surprised to read that!

rrocket · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2019, 08:41:04 pm »

Quote from: Jaeger on July 31, 2019, 08:39:51 pm

Quote from: PJungnitsch on July 31, 2019, 03:55:07 pm
Ouch:

28. Alfa Romeo Giulia
We loved driving the energetic Alfa Romeo Giulia when we had a chance to test it, as it’s a terrific performer. But it’s lacking in terms of comfort and cabin ergonomics. Worse, it gets a dismal reliability rating from Consumer Reports. Some auto reviewers reported encountering mechanical issues during their evaluations. In fact, we know someone who was considering buying a Giulia and had not one, but two models off the dealer’s lot break down during a test drive. The Audi A4, Acura TSX, and Mercedes-Benz C-Class models are less dicey alternatives

Lol! I mean hands-up everyone who is surprised to read that!

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Jaeger · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2019, 08:41:51 pm »

What the hell is wrong with the ILX? I mean, I'd probably rather have a Civic but how is that an avoid-at-all-costs car? Did it catch chronic breakdown disease from an Alpha?

Ontariodriver · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2019, 10:06:52 pm »

Quote from: Jaeger on July 31, 2019, 08:41:51 pm

What the hell is wrong with the ILX? I mean, I'd probably rather have a Civic but how is that an avoid-at-all-costs car? Did it catch chronic breakdown disease from an Alpha?

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/acura/ilx

2019's don't score that well according to JD..Cough...Power.....when comes to reliability, I wonder if, it is all that tec, Honda's reliability has been slipping recently from what I read, mostly because all the technology.

CSH · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2019, 10:11:27 pm »

Interesting, no Tesla in the list. CR dosent like it.

Dante · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2019, 10:55:20 pm »

LOL....I've owned one car in the list for 12 years with no reliability problems whatsoever (Outlander), one for 3 years with no issues during the lease period (Focus) and one that I want for my next lease (Discovery Sport).

How did I survive without Forbes' wisdom? Must be a miracle!

Sir Osis of Liver · « **Reply #16 on:** August 01, 2019, 12:07:10 am »

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Jaeger · « **Reply #17 on:** August 01, 2019, 05:09:25 am »

Quote from: Ontariodriver on July 31, 2019, 10:06:52 pm

Quote from: Jaeger on July 31, 2019, 08:41:51 pm
What the hell is wrong with the ILX? I mean, I'd probably rather have a Civic but how is that an avoid-at-all-costs car? Did it catch chronic breakdown disease from an Alpha?

https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/acura/ilx

2019's don't score that well according to JD..Cough...Power.....when comes to reliability, I wonder if, it is all that tec, Honda's reliability has been slipping recently from what I read, mostly because all the technology.

7 out of 10 = avoid at all costs?

There must be a LOT of cars with worse scores that aren't on this must-avoid list.

And I don't scoff at JD Power. It's hardly a comprehensive assessment of reliability but it's far from meaningless.

duck · « **Reply #18 on:** August 01, 2019, 07:07:53 am »

Quote from: Great_Big_Abyss on July 31, 2019, 04:10:24 pm

Quote from: ktm525 on July 31, 2019, 04:05:07 pm
Does Toyota own Forbes?

No, they just build really good vehicles.

I listen to Scotty on YouTube. I heard he is a former Canadian now living in Texas.

I only like some models of Ford and Toyota. IMHO everything else is JUNK!!!!

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #19 on:** August 01, 2019, 07:39:51 am »

Quote from: carcrazy on July 31, 2019, 10:55:20 pm

LOL....I've owned one car in the list for 12 years with no reliability problems whatsoever (Outlander), one for 3 years with no issues during the lease period (Focus) and one that I want for my next lease (Discovery Sport).

How did I survive without Forbes' wisdom? Must be a miracle!

My Mom had a Discovery Sport for four years, and didn't have too many problems with it. Time spend at the dealership wasn't any more than any other car. She liked it.

I say as long as you lease it and plan on returning it before the warranty is up, have fun. It's a nice car.