Topic: First Drive: 2020 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Duramax Diesel

[AutoTrader.ca]

Buttery-smooth efficiency
Read more...

[Sir Osis of Liver]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

 

[BWII]

But it'll do 40 US 48 Imp mp....I mean 5-6~l/100! (that's pretty fecking impressive)

[dirtyjeffer]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

agreed...i know times have changed, etc, but diesel's need to be tough (those high compression ratios would blow up a normal engine)...as well, the price premium for diesels, if using as your daily driver (which, let's be honest, that's the biggest purchasing segment now), simply doesn't make sense in terms of ROI.

i wonder how much a timing belt replacement would cost on this engine.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

agreed...i know times have changed, etc, but diesel's need to be tough (those high compression ratios would blow up a normal engine)...as well, the price premium for diesels, if using as your daily driver (which, let's be honest, that's the biggest purchasing segment now), simply doesn't make sense in terms of ROI.

i wonder how much a timing belt replacement would cost on this engine.

Timing belt replacement on THAT engine would be NIL, because THAT Duramax actually has a gear-driven camshaft.  That's the big 6.6L Duramax found in the HD's.  You can tell because it's a V8, not the I-6 found in the 1500's.  Also, it has a picture of a 2500HD behind it...

[dirtyjeffer]

THAT Duramax actually has a gear-driven camshaft.  That's the big 6.6L Duramax found in the HD's.  You can tell because it's a V8, not the I-6 found in the 1500's.  Also, it has a picture of a 2500HD behind it...

oh...well, i'm not sure why they had that photo in it...i didn't look over the engine carefully, just say the front section and thought getting in there to change a belt would be a lot of work ($$$).

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Does nobody edit or proof these AutoTrader articles for accuracy anymore?

[Fobroader]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

[Fobroader]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

Sorry man, to me a diesel should be a minimum 1/2 million km engine, unless its from Ford, then 3-4 oil changes at best. Its a bloody diesel, they should just run, once you remove the DEF/DPF crap, forever.

[valuator]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

I'd be seriously pissed to only get 250,000km out of a new Silverado.

[Ex-airbalancer]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

I'd be seriously pissed to only get 250,000km out of a any Silverado.

I was thinking the same thing , I have had 3 GM trucks with over 350,000 km , it was wanting a new truck that made me change

[Fobroader]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

I'd be seriously pissed to only get 250,000km out of a new Silverado.

Maybe hes used to having a Ford truck 

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

I'd be seriously pissed to only get 250,000km out of a new Silverado.

Maybe hes used to having a Ford truck 

Christ.  My boss has an F150 with 250 000kms.  Both leaf springs in the rear are broken, the HVAC doesn't work properly, the radio headunit doesn't display anymore, he's having problems with the 5.4, he's had power steering pump issues, the windshield trim broke off and flaps in the wind (it's been duct taped for years now), the power window module doesn't work anymore, what else?  Oh ya, and it's starting to rust badly. 

He doesn't trust the truck to take it out of town anymore, and doesn't want to put any more money into it.  As far as I'm concerned, that's EOL for that particular truck. 

I keep telling him to buy a new truck already (pointing him in the direction of the Toyota dealership), but he won't have any of it.

[Fobroader]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

I'd be seriously pissed to only get 250,000km out of a new Silverado.

Maybe hes used to having a Ford truck 

Christ.  My boss has an F150 with 250 000kms.  Both leaf springs in the rear are broken, the HVAC doesn't work properly, the radio headunit doesn't display anymore, he's having problems with the 5.4, he's had power steering pump issues, the windshield trim broke off and flaps in the wind (it's been duct taped for years now), the power window module doesn't work anymore, what else?  Oh ya, and it's starting to rust badly. 

He doesn't trust the truck to take it out of town anymore, and doesn't want to put any more money into it.  As far as I'm concerned, that's EOL for that particular truck. 

I keep telling him to buy a new truck already (pointing him in the direction of the Toyota dealership), but he won't have any of it.

My first Chev truck had 360k kms on it, the GM I just got rid of is north of 290k km. This is why I mock Ford trucks, they are made like BMWs, good for the warranty, if that.

[OliverD]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

I'd be seriously pissed to only get 250,000km out of a new Silverado.

Maybe hes used to having a Ford truck 

Christ.  My boss has an F150 with 250 000kms.  Both leaf springs in the rear are broken, the HVAC doesn't work properly, the radio headunit doesn't display anymore, he's having problems with the 5.4, he's had power steering pump issues, the windshield trim broke off and flaps in the wind (it's been duct taped for years now), the power window module doesn't work anymore, what else?  Oh ya, and it's starting to rust badly. 

He doesn't trust the truck to take it out of town anymore, and doesn't want to put any more money into it.  As far as I'm concerned, that's EOL for that particular truck. 

I keep telling him to buy a new truck already (pointing him in the direction of the Toyota dealership), but he won't have any of it.

What year is it? Does he beat on it or is it just falling apart naturally?

[Great_Big_Abyss]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

I'd be seriously pissed to only get 250,000km out of a new Silverado.

Maybe hes used to having a Ford truck 

Christ.  My boss has an F150 with 250 000kms.  Both leaf springs in the rear are broken, the HVAC doesn't work properly, the radio headunit doesn't display anymore, he's having problems with the 5.4, he's had power steering pump issues, the windshield trim broke off and flaps in the wind (it's been duct taped for years now), the power window module doesn't work anymore, what else?  Oh ya, and it's starting to rust badly. 

He doesn't trust the truck to take it out of town anymore, and doesn't want to put any more money into it.  As far as I'm concerned, that's EOL for that particular truck. 

I keep telling him to buy a new truck already (pointing him in the direction of the Toyota dealership), but he won't have any of it.

What year is it? Does he beat on it or is it just falling apart naturally?

It's a 2006?!?  He doesn't beat on it, doesn't even haul a massive trailer.  It's a daily driver.  It's just falling apart naturally.

I feel bad, because I helped him pick it up used when it had 120 000kms.  It was in pretty good shape then, no rust, everything worked, but it didn't take long until stuff started to go wrong with it. 

[HeliDriver]

I wouldn't consider timing belt, aluminum block and heads to be advantages. And $47,730 for a 2WD LT? Jesus.

Yup, that has completely turned me off this engine, aluminum block and heads and a timing belt, nope, not in a diesel. Iron heads, iron block and a gear driven timing set is the only way to go for a diesel.

To be Fairrrr, this diesel is more of a daily driver diesel, and less of a workhorse diesel.  I wouldn't expect a Silverado 1500 to go much past 250 000kms anyway, so that's only as long as the engine has to be reliable for, right? 

Unlike the big HD trucks that should be expected to go half a million kms without much issue.

I'd be seriously pissed to only get 250,000km out of a any Silverado.

I was thinking the same thing , I have had 3 GM trucks with over 350,000 km , it was wanting a new truck that made me change

Yeah, I’m driving a 1500 Sierra work truck now. Think it’s a 2013, and it’s at 290k km.

It gets bashed down gravel roads regularly, but still drives pretty nice. Sounds like it might have a bit of an exhaust leak, but nothing major. The company has had it since new and I haven’t heard of any major issues with it.

[OliverD]

My FIL has a company truck but it's just a Hertz rental. Brand new Silverado LT crew cab 4x4, nicely equipped, $900/month with unlimited KMs. Seems like a pretty good deal to me.

[PJungnitsch]

Posted this before, but a good video to watch for those running that gen of Ford trucks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIUKQ2driQA